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The NEW advice being issued is you can now eat a cheeseburger a day more than the current guidelines.

Now I was not aware of the current recommended daily calorie intake, but it seems crazy to me, with the huge obese problems out there, to possibly encourage people to eat more. :shock:
I am lucky as I can eat what I want when I want but....for many weight issues are a real problem.
So how come all of a sudden in the current climate, do they feel the need to now say, we can up our calorie intake.
I always thought that the advice was burgers were not that good for you, now you can have an extra one every day...strange.
Do some of these people really know what is the correct intake, or do they make these things up as they go along?
Surely a balanced diet is good advice, especially for people that are overweight, and not now to tell people you can eat more?
I am waiting for other " experts " to come along and say this is bad advice, which I think it is. But a joy for teenagers up and down the land. lol and am sure Mcdonalds will be clapping their hands with glee.
yes it is.
stuff yourself silly.
worlds ending and your gonna die anyway if you listen to all the intelligent ones on the radio/tv.
so sod it.
Quote by The Article
the proposals, revealed yesterday, have been drafted by a committee of Britain's leading nutritional experts on the Scientific Advisory Committee on Nutrition (SACN)

As you know, I'm not a conspiracy theorist...
But, SACN couldn't be funded by McDonalds or Harry Ramsdens - could they?
Or maybe the sacked drugs advisers have set themselves up another committee to sit on.
Me? cynical?
Nooooooooo
Quote by GnV
the proposals, revealed yesterday, have been drafted by a committee of Britain's leading nutritional experts on the Scientific Advisory Committee on Nutrition (SACN)

As you know, I'm not a conspiracy theorist...
But, SACN couldn't be funded by McDonalds or Harry Ramsdens - could they?
Or maybe the sacked drugs advisers have set themselves up another committee to sit on.
Me? cynical?
Nooooooooo
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Show me where the people who wrote this report say "eat a cheeseburger a day"
Quote by Kaznkev
Show me where the people who wrote this report say "eat a cheeseburger a day"

just seen on the news it is 340 calouries for women,a latte not a cheese burger!
yeah but i'd be very surprised if that was the actual wording in the report
double post redface
Quote by flower411
Show me where the people who wrote this report say "eat a cheeseburger a day"

They didn`t rolleyes
The whole report has been taken out of context and made to look ridiculous for the uneducated masses !!
Calories don`t equate to fat ...it`s a whole different thing !!!
The fact that The Mail has equated calories with cheeseburgers is just predictable .....the fact that somebody has quoted it as fact is laughable .
you mean the daily fail has taken something out of context in a bid to whip up anger???
The cheeseburger was an example of what the extra calories would be, IF you read the artical..
" New research has shown people can consume an extra 400 calories a day, equivalent to a cheeseburger ".
The cheeseburger issue is irrelevant here, the question seems to have been put on the shelf...a question with a ? attatched to it.
Is the advice a good thing when there are so many overweight people out there?
A little snippet for those that seem to think calories does not equal weight gain....I would never have guessed that.



So it seems as I am not that educated I decided to see what the " experts " take on this is, and lo and behold calories DO make you gain weight.
more calories do equal weight gain, no one said it didn't, more calories don't equal fat though.
I try to eat around 3000 - 3200 calories a day because i want to build muscle, i'm not fat and i eat excess what the recommended requirement is.
It is good advice even with the amount of over weight people there are around, because taken in the right context it will be good for you, this information will be beneficial to anyone who isn't fat.
However there comes a point that people need to take responsibility for there own actions, if your fat and see this report and think 'great i'll eat some more cake' then thats there problem... we are all born with a brain, use it.
Just stated on the news that. "if you don't exercise - don't eat the extra calories".
Quote by Kaznkev
I ve lost over a stone in 2 months by just cutting out the crap,its not rocket scoience
mind i am having trouble finding out how much fat there is in sperm

good source of protein.... biggrin
Quote by Sexonfire
more calories do equal weight gain, no one said it didn't, more calories don't equal fat though.
I try to eat around 3000 - 3200 calories a day because i want to build muscle, i'm not fat and i eat excess what the recommended requirement is.
It is good advice even with the amount of over weight people there are around, because taken in the right context it will be good for you, this information will be beneficial to anyone who isn't fat.
However there comes a point that people need to take responsibility for there own actions, if your fat and see this report and think 'great i'll eat some more cake' then thats there problem... we are all born with a brain, use it.

That is exactly the point.
Will it end up just doing exactly that?
Quote by kentswingers777
more calories do equal weight gain, no one said it didn't, more calories don't equal fat though.
I try to eat around 3000 - 3200 calories a day because i want to build muscle, i'm not fat and i eat excess what the recommended requirement is.
It is good advice even with the amount of over weight people there are around, because taken in the right context it will be good for you, this information will be beneficial to anyone who isn't fat.
However there comes a point that people need to take responsibility for there own actions, if your fat and see this report and think 'great i'll eat some more cake' then thats there problem... we are all born with a brain, use it.

That is exactly the point.
Will it end up just doing exactly that?
maybe people will check what there calorie intake is, see its too much and cut back....
Quote by Sexonfire
more calories do equal weight gain, no one said it didn't, more calories don't equal fat though.
I try to eat around 3000 - 3200 calories a day because i want to build muscle, i'm not fat and i eat excess what the recommended requirement is.
It is good advice even with the amount of over weight people there are around, because taken in the right context it will be good for you, this information will be beneficial to anyone who isn't fat.
However there comes a point that people need to take responsibility for there own actions, if your fat and see this report and think 'great i'll eat some more cake' then thats there problem... we are all born with a brain, use it.

That is exactly the point.
Will it end up just doing exactly that?
maybe people will check what there calorie intake is, see its too much and cut back....

Or maybe not, and will just eat a bit more now?
Quote by kentswingers777
more calories do equal weight gain, no one said it didn't, more calories don't equal fat though.
I try to eat around 3000 - 3200 calories a day because i want to build muscle, i'm not fat and i eat excess what the recommended requirement is.
It is good advice even with the amount of over weight people there are around, because taken in the right context it will be good for you, this information will be beneficial to anyone who isn't fat.
However there comes a point that people need to take responsibility for there own actions, if your fat and see this report and think 'great i'll eat some more cake' then thats there problem... we are all born with a brain, use it.

That is exactly the point.
Will it end up just doing exactly that?
maybe people will check what there calorie intake is, see its too much and cut back....

Or maybe not, and will just eat a bit more now?
well they will if they read the mail who have told them they can eat a cheese burger..... who's the irresponsible one??
Think it was a slight piss take if honest.
Quote by kentswingers777
The cheeseburger issue is irrelevant here, the question seems to have been put on the shelf...a question with a ? attatched to it.

So why lead the topic with
Quote by kentswingers777
The NEW advice being issued is you can now eat a cheeseburger a day more than the current guidelines.

dunno
Once more the press see fit to report in such a style as to make it possible to be taken more than one way....
I'm glad I dont waste my money on them....
Guidelines on how much one should eat? Well they poke their noses into everything else so why not the consumation of food. Perhaps they will have a warrent out for my arrest soon because I would only ever read such guidelines if I wanted something to laugh at, and actually like being a fat bastard. I was told to stop drinking alcohol, done that, but I will eat what I bloody well like. Loads of curry!! silly
Quote by Steve

The cheeseburger issue is irrelevant here, the question seems to have been put on the shelf...a question with a ? attatched to it.

So why lead the topic with
Quote by kentswingers777
The NEW advice being issued is you can now eat a cheeseburger a day more than the current guidelines.

dunno
Once more the press see fit to report in such a style as to make it possible to be taken more than one way....
I'm glad I dont waste my money on them....
Actually Stevie, the cheeseburger example was used on Sky news and BBC news all last night....I thought the BBC was impartial and nothing to do with the media hype?
They still used the cheeseburger as an EXAMPLE of what 400 calories equates too.
Jeeeeze people on here can take things so literally at times. wink
Sensible dietary information is out there. Loads if it. And NOT in the daily papers - at the doc's, on the BBC website, on NHS websites and many other places.
I'm 'fat' - actually according to the doc's chart I'm obese. So I'm not a stick insect mocking fat people. I know how hard it can be to get down to a given weight and stay there.
But the fact remains YOU are responsible for YOUR health/weight etc. Picking and choosing snippets of info to excuse or justify bad eating habits is stupid. And people do it to excuse both over and UNDER eating. If people eat too much and don't exercise enough and get fat they can't blame 'lack of information'.
Anyone who is ovberweight and uses this extract from the report to justify eating more will simply put more weight on. Without the rest of the report or, frankly, basic common sense the idea that eating more is OK (ie won't add weight) is moronic.
The term YOU here refers to every individual not anyone specific on here.
ya know wat i think??
wat a load of ole bollux as if us fatties care anyhoo :twisted:
yes i'm incredibly fat yes i am most likely unhealthy as i'm sure someone will point out but hey i couldn't give a flying fuck i eat wat i wanna when i wanna i'm not gonna b dictated too by anyone so as far as this fattie is concerned they can stick thier guidelines where the sun don't shine flipa
now where did i put that cream cake :rascal:
Well am sure a lot of people do care.
The whole point of this for me is....what the feck do these idiots know, when they are all of a sudden saying something different to what they have been saying for 20 years. :shock:
Some people obviously do not care, but for those that do care, they are now seeing an irresponsible artical almost saying they can eat more.
With obesity being a huge problem apparently,the NEW advice seems to be very irresponsible.
i just can't think of anythin more boring than calorie counting, life is for living and if its a bit shorter for bein fat at least it wasn't wasted worrying bout wat i was puttin in me gob lol
Surely this is only a problem for people who do count their calories on a daily basis? If you are not counting calories, and you are maintaining your weight, then there is no way you would want to change your diet by adding more calories. If you are losing weight (intentionally losing it) then again, you would not go and automatically increase your calorie intake.
However, I do think there is some use in this information, if only our newspapers had actually thought about how they were going to put the message across. For people who are desperately trying to lose weight, and are doing it by following dangerously low calorie diets (I think this is where the total calorie intake is 800 or less, but dont quote me on that) then it may be useful information to persuade them to raise their calorie intake and still be able to lose weight.
I lost 3 1/2stone earlier this year and have easily maintained the loss since July this year but I have never counted a single calorie. I eat healthly, excercise and just made sure I put enough fuel into the system to keep it running smoothly. I wont increase my food intake just because some expert says I can, and I am fairly sure that the majority of people who are maintaing will not change their daily intake as a result of this.
However, I do think the message about total calories needed is definately useful, but it is how this message is managed is where the problems are caused.
Quote by bouncy332
i just can't think of anythin more boring than calorie counting, life is for living and if its a bit shorter for bein fat at least it wasn't wasted worrying bout wat i was puttin in me gob lol

I agree, and would also point out that there is nothing to be gained by telling me I can eat an extra cheeseburger. I already had it along with all the pies, alegedly! :0)
Quote by BrightonGeezer
i just can't think of anythin more boring than calorie counting, life is for living and if its a bit shorter for bein fat at least it wasn't wasted worrying bout wat i was puttin in me gob lol

I agree, and would also point out that there is nothing to be gained by telling me I can eat an extra cheeseburger. I already had it along with all the pies, alegedly! :0)
fancy a nice fresh cream gataux to finish it off :thumbup:
If the calories are in the form of..cake,ice-cream,chocolate or alcohol, then more calories are always a good idea.
Quote by bouncy332
i just can't think of anythin more boring than calorie counting, life is for living and if its a bit shorter for bein fat at least it wasn't wasted worrying bout wat i was puttin in me gob lol

I agree, and would also point out that there is nothing to be gained by telling me I can eat an extra cheeseburger. I already had it along with all the pies, alegedly! :0)
fancy a nice fresh cream gataux to finish it off :thumbup:
Not arf!! silly
you could all try adding a little common sense to the debate.
think about what a calorie is. it's a unit of measurement, nothing more. The calorie debate since the invention of weight watchers and various other pseudo-scientific groups is one big red herring. It's not how many calories one consumes, it's in what form and how the body processes it that counts. If you want to go back to basic biology, think about how food gets from ya stomach to a fat cell, then you'll realise all the diet advice on NHS and BBC et al is all based on predjudice and ignorance, not science.
as for exercise, that's a smokescreen for all the smug i go for a run every day and i'm skinny brigade.