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There are many of you who will be familiar with the mental illness known as Bi-Polar (formerly Manic Depression), or to give it its full title, Bi-Polar Effective Disorder. Some of you will live with someone who suffers with it, or will know someone who suffers with it. In fact you don’t have to have Bi-Polar to suffer with it. My wife has Bi-Polar and I frequently have to suffer it. For those of you who are familiar with Bi-Polar, the following post will be all too familiar to you. And for those of you who are not familiar with it, the following post will give you a little insight into what is an extremely difficult and potential damaging illness.
I’ll start with a little background to our relationship. My wife and I have been married for 20 years and have 8 children between us. I have 5 children from a previous marriage, my wife has 2 children from her previous marriage and we have 1 child from our marriage. When we first met it was as if we were meant to be together, everything seemed right and life was good. We were happy, well for the most part at least. From the beginning there were times of the month when my wife would become depressed and angry for no apparent reason. She had discussed these feelings with her doctor on several occasions to be told that she was suffering from PMT (PMS) and was advised to try herbal remedies, which may help to ease the symptoms.
Over the following few years the depression seemed to worsen, lasting longer and longer, to the point where she was depressed for 3 weeks out of every four. During the 1 week when she was not depressed she was the loving, caring, caring, sexual woman I fell in love with, we would have sex almost every day for that week and she seemed to have no inhibitions at all. There was also a down side to this. She was pretty reckless with money, spending far more than we could afford on things we often didn’t even need, which was a serious cause for concern. But the moment the depression kicked in, it was as if we were strangers. She hardly spoke to me, didn’t want me touching her and couldn’t bring herself to show any affection at all. During the depressive episodes she would find it difficult to socialise, even simple tasks like the weekly shopping were difficult for her. For a while I accepted things the way they were. I soon learnt to enjoy the good times when they happened, which made it easier to put up with the bad times. Unfortunately, we started having more and more arguments, which were often over our financial problems caused by her reckless spending, or by me bemoaning the fact that I felt unwanted and unloved because she couldn’t show me affection. I couldn’t understand why she didn’t want me near her. I started to feel angry and rejected and, for a while, wanted to get out of the relationship and find someone who would give me the love a care that I felt I deserved. The problem for me was I loved my wife so much that I couldn’t bring myself to leave her so I had to find a way to make her happy, or at least a little happier.
The one thing she always seemed to enjoy was a good night out. Whenever we had the opportunity we would venture in to the local town and have a few drinks, let our hair down and have fun. She loved to dance and was a really sexy mover, which would always attract the attention of the many men who would gather around the dance floor in the hope of copping off. My wife seemed to love the attention she was getting and would flirt outrageously with any man who paid her attention, and believe me, there were many. Luckily I’m not the jealous type and I would get quite turned on with her antics and, as far as I was concerned, as long as she was happy, I was happy. I would encourage her to enjoy herself and do whatever she wanted. Of course, at the end of the night she would be coming home with me, and it would be me that she would be having sex with. Unfortunately, what with having young children, our nights out together were few and far between and this became a source of frustration for both of us.
One day, during one of our good weeks, and she was at her happiest, I suggested that she arrange to go out with one of her friends and enjoy herself, while I stayed at home and looked after the children. She didn’t need much persuasion and made the arrangements for that coming weekend. Nights out with her friend soon became a monthly event, sometimes twice a month if she felt up to it. Occasionally we would go out as a couple or, sometimes, in a group. I had noticed that she was buying sexier clothes to wear on her nights out, her skirts were getting shorter and her tops were getting more and more revealing, to the point where little was left to the imagination. In fact there were times she even went out with no underwear on, which I found a little out of character but extremely erotic nonetheless. I also noticed that she had amassed quite a lot of male friends, who seemed a little too familiar and tactile. Whenever we’d discus the way she dressed she would insist that, although her clothing was quite revealing, and she enjoyed the flirting, she had no intention of getting involved sexually with any other man. I would often feel, however, that her behaviour appeared to suggest otherwise.
There were times when she would come home in the early hours of the morning, looking dishevelled and worse for wear, there were tell-tale signs that she had been up to something but she would swear that nothing had happened. Although, deep down, I knew she’d been up to something, I just couldn’t get her to admit it, so I would have to let it go.
Over the years that followed she would still have her times of depression, which were becoming more and more unpredictable, but her happier moods appeared to be reaching greater heights. She was still having her nights out with her friend and she appeared to be elated and on a high every time. This would be in contrast to the way she was with me; she had become more and more distant and unavailable to me. Our sex life was almost non-existent, which was causing more problems between us, mainly because I would make an issue of it and she would just dismiss my feelings. She was also still spending more money than we could afford and that was also a cause of more arguments.
And then, one day, out of the blue, she announced that she no longer loved me and that our relationship was over. This came as a bit of a shock to me and over the coming weeks I found out that she had been having an affair with a guy who was a well-known womaniser. It was obvious to everyone that she was just another notch on his bedpost and that the relationship would not last. So it came as no surprise that, eventually, the relationship ended. We had obviously kept in touch and, after a long soul searching discussion, decided to get back together, on condition that we be totally honest and have no secrets from each other. It was then she told me about the men she had slept with over the years and all the things she got up to, I was a little shocked at her confession but reassured her that it was OK and that, as long as she was honest with me, then we had nothing to worry about. She was clearly ashamed of how she behaved and swore that she would always be faithful to me I the future
As time went on, she continued her nights out, although they were becoming less frequent. Our relationship had become stronger and, I believe, more open and honest. She appeared to be more content with married life and our sex life was pretty good considering how it had been in the past. Unfortunately, her mood swings were still a cause for concern and her personality was still changeable. She would go from meek and mild to aggressive and arrogant without warning. Occasionally she would become extremely agitated and uncontrollable; having to be physically restrained from leaving the house and racing off in her car, often screaming that she wanted to drive off the edge of a cliff or into a brick wall. I would have to find some way of calming her down and getting her into bed so she could sleep off, what I now know as, the manic side of a Bi-Polar episode. She would also change job’s far too often, due mainly to a build-up of self-imposed stress where she would put her whole heart and soul into whatever task was put before her and then, in her mind, failing, which would give her a feeling of worthlessness. Eventually this all led to a complete breakdown and she then became reclusive and deeply depressed.
Throughout all of this she was still being treated by the doctors for clinical depression and was given medication to stabilize her moods, this just seemed to make her more like a zombie and, eventually she stopped taking the medication. For a while we just got on with life and I learnt to cope with her mood swings. She would just battle her feelings and would often spend most of the day in bed. But then, one day, I was reading an article about Bi-Polar and things suddenly started to make sense. It became obvious to me that my wife was actually suffering with Bi-Polar, the mood swings, rapid cycling, elation, reckless money spending and sexual promiscuity. It was like someone had suddenly opened my eyes. I mentioned the possibility to my wife that she could be suffering from Bi-Polar and she said that she had also been thinking that herself. We both agreed that she would seek advice from her doctor and, once she had explained our thoughts, an appointment was made with a Psychiatrist. It was finally confirmed by the Psychiatrist that my wife did indeed have Bi-Polar and a course of medication was prescribed. The medication she was prescribed was Sertraline, to combat the anxiety and panic attacks, and Depakote, to help control the manic episodes and rapid cycling of Bi-Polar. Unfortunately, as with all medication, there are a wide range of possible side effects. In my wife’s case, the side effects were typically, weight gain, lethargy and a lack of interest in any sexual activity, from her point of view the weight gain was the worse side effect and she hated it. For the next couple of years she took her medication every day and her mood swings were kept under control to a point, she did have highs and lows but they were manageable. The down side, from my point of view of course, was her lack of interest in sex and her inability to show any affection. This would make me feel undesirable and unloved and, to make matters worse, my sex life had now become totally non-existent.
A few months ago, having been on the medication for a number of years, my wife decided that she hated the side effects so much that, with the agreement of her Psychiatrist, she stopped taking her medication, choosing to tackle the Bi-Polar herself by avoiding known trigger factors and also by avoiding stressful situations. This appears to be working, to a point. There are times when she gets herself worked up over things that she perceives to be problems, mainly to do with family and friends, when, in fact there is nothing wrong. I have learnt to be calm and supportive throughout, reassuring her and encouraging her to talk about her feelings, which seems to help us get through these episodes unscathed.
Since coming off the medication, the weight has started to drop off and my wife is starting to feel a little better about herself, but she still finds it difficult to show any affection towards me and her sex drive hasn’t improved at all, as yet, although I live in hope that maybe, just maybe, we will have something like a normal relationship one day, whatever normal is! Until then, I’ll keep on doing what I’m doing.
The truth is, Bi-Polar Affective Disorder is an extremely difficult illness to control, and can be so destructive to relationships that many couples don’t even get as far as having the illness diagnosed in the first place. And, even after diagnosis, there will still be people who won’t be able to cope with the stresses and strains of living with a Bi-Polar sufferer and will, eventually give up. And there’s no shame in that. If you’re unable to fully commit, then it’s better to get out early. But if you are committed, and you are in for the long haul, then be prepared for a rocky ride. My wife calls me her rock, and she says that she could not survive without me, which is sad in one respect but it also makes me feel that I’ve made a difference, and that is the best feeling in the world. Mind you, an active sex life as well would be the Cherry on the cake!
Comments welcome.
Regards,
Mark.
Mark, great post. Post of the Year I think?
I've no doubt many on here have experienced all that you've stated. Fair play for being open and honest, commendable.
Paddy.
Each to their own...... But sharing something so personal about someone you profess to love so much - on a swinging site?........
How do you think she would react if she found out that you had posted this and highlighted all of her weaknesses to the world?
If this is how you treat you wife I would not be surprised if the causes of her depression are somewhat closer to home and more obvious than you think.
Personally, I think this thread should be deleted as an invasion of privacy of someone who is not here to respond to these comments made about them.
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Each to their own...... But sharing something so personal about someone you profess to love so much - on a swinging site?........
How do you think she would react if she found out that you had posted this and highlighted all of her weaknesses to the world?
If this is how you treat you wife I would not be surprised if the causes of her depression are somewhat closer to home and more obvious than you think.
Personally, I think this thread should be deleted as an invasion of privacy of someone who is not here to respond to these comments made about them.

I actually agree with most of that.
Though it must of been a difficult piece to write but I am in agreement with TooHot also. Maybe taking this to some sort of professional counselling service would go more to easing the pain of you situation. I understand the desire to put your thoughts down to an anonymous 'sex' site for anonymous feedback but I really don't think it's the ideal place for the situation you find yourself in. However, I also wish you well and that you get some relief from you situation.
This is very well thought through and very personal post. I can only think that everybody will wish both you and your partner well. You seem to be accepting of your wife’s condition and what goes with it.
But I have to agree with the comments above. It is possibly not the right place to air your thoughts, I am sure just writing it and sending it for submission has in some way helped but with specific medical issues being on a forum that we have to assume your wife is unaware of maybe unwise.
Bi-polar is a lifelong condition that some people choose to treat with various degrees of success with medication. Part of this medication is therapy! The NHS is unfortunately underfunded and under resourced in this department and the waiting lists are long, but they can and do help. Without being personal back, it is possible that those close to people with mental illness can develop symptoms of depression themselves. I am not suggesting for one moment you are but it maybe that the long term effects on yourself are starting to show (quite understandably)
I am sure your GP is only too familiar with the effects of stress and would have no problem with you going to visit him/her, There is no stigma attached to stress or any other form of mental issues.
After writing what I have written, it may sound trite to say i and I am sure everybody else fully supports you,
Absolutely typical!!!!
Thank you Mark for sharing your experience living with someone with a mental health problem
Yes there is the issue of confidentiality and there is the assumption your wife does not know you have posted that, particularly as you have a single male profile .......so technically her identity is not exactly obvious
however my issue is the reaction that because this was about mental health it shouldn't be posted on a swinging site!!!! have you seen some of the trash posted on here!!!!
Serious mental health problems like bipolar effect 1 in 100 people so you could roughly say there is a good proportion of SH that suffers from such an illness or knows someone who does.
Mental health problems are stigmatised and given so much bad press no wonder people want to avoid the mention of them
I saw someone sharing an experience rather than asking for guidance and it looks like the Mrs has had this from services.
Well done to her for having a try without medication (yes they have their place but do have side effects)
MH services are now offering so much more in the management of Bipolar such as self management groups, CBT and there is also the Bipolar organisation
And as a mental health nurse who has run a bipolar well being group I speak from experience.
Good luck to you mark and the Mrs
maybe this is the only place mark feels that he can post his feelings ? its anonymous so he is able to post it here without fear of anyone he knows reading it.
a problem shared and all that.
I can see too hot's point, maybe this is not the right place but where is ?
I suffer from depression due to a head trauma.
I also like swinging
I just wish we could all get along and have a big hug.
loves and kisses to all.
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maybe this is the only place mark feels that he can post his feelings ? its anonymous so he is able to post it here without fear of anyone he knows reading it.
a problem shared and all that.
I can see too hot's point, maybe this is not the right place but where is ?
I suffer from depression due to a head trauma.
I also like swinging
I just wish we could all get along and have a big hug.
loves and kisses to all.

I have Bi-Polar II
Its not easy
but i understand his dilemma, i am hard to live with at times
Live and let live and lets just be here to have fun and debate etc etc etc xxxxxxxxx
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Each to their own...... But sharing something so personal about someone you profess to love so much - on a swinging site?........
How do you think she would react if she found out that you had posted this and highlighted all of her weaknesses to the world?
If this is how you treat you wife I would not be surprised if the causes of her depression are somewhat closer to home and more obvious than you think.
Personally, I think this thread should be deleted as an invasion of privacy of someone who is not here to respond to these comments made about them.

sometimes a cry for help or a need to unload ones problems turns up in the strangest of places
lets face it, far more vulgar things are writen on this forum least of all the self promotion of material wealth
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maybe this is the only place mark feels that he can post his feelings ? its anonymous so he is able to post it here without fear of anyone he knows reading it.
a problem shared and all that.
I can see too hot's point, maybe this is not the right place but where is ?
I suffer from depression due to a head trauma.
I also like swinging
I just wish we could all get along and have a big hug.
loves and kisses to all.

compassion is something we don't often see in the forums, bickering and self promotion seem to be more important
hope we see more of you in here jools :thumbup:
hugs coming your way :therethere:
It's not easy to disagree with what has been written, as a group I think we can offer all kinds of support. When I (Mr) first went to the doctors, things were that misunderstood that on my second visit he told me he was "surprised to see me again!" and did not have a clue how to treat me.
Times are changing though and people are more aware of mental illness. What I was trying to say (if a little clumsily) was that people who are helping others can indeed suffer from heightened stress, panic attacks and in extreme cases narcissistic thoughts. I am not saying this gentleman is but thought it was the responsible thing to say "if you are, it's okay, you’re not a freak!" in fact far from it.
We can all support Mark, be a friendly community towards him and (if he feels he needs it) to point him in the right direction.
Not sure if this is allowed but for ANYBODY AND EVERYBODY who needs to talk to someone, whether they are suffering from any form of stress or upset in their life, “The Samaritans” are always there for you and ready to listen, they do not judge or offer advice, they are a friendly person who will listen in confidence to you. They are a fantastic organisation staffed by people who give their time free to help others.
You might (quite rightly) say I have taken this too far, the poor guy was just airing his views, but I don’t really care to be honest, I do care about Mark and the thousands of sufferers of mental illness in the UK. I stand by the fact I question whether this is the correct forum but the post has been made and I won’t turn my back on Mark and tell him to take the post down. I think the statistic someone mentioned is 1 in 100 people suffer from bi-polar, I think that should read at least 1 in 100 people, add to that many other forms of mental illness and you begin to see the scope of it.
The point is, you no longer have to suffer in silence, the longer you do, the longer it will take for people to understand mental health. The NHS ploughs financial recourses into the headline killer illnesses and quite rightly, mental illness is a silent killer and it kills 100’s of people in this country every year. This is not including the families it breaks up and the addictions many sufferers go on to develop. The more this issue is talked about, the sooner it will be treated seriously and the proper and proportionate resources diverted to it.
Sorry if this is disproportionate but it has hit a nerve, I am one of the lucky ones, I no longer take medication and although I will have a mental illness all my life I use cognitive therapy and lead a full and normal life.
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In my opinion, this is the perfect forum for the OP to place this post. This is a swinging site and therefore a place to discus issues within relationships. The post is not an invasion of privacy as no names are mentioned. Lets face it the subject is far more relevant to this site than inane political bollocks.
Mark, we wish you all the luck and strength to continue supporting and standing by your wife and fingers crossed that your sex lives together improve over time.

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Never mind the wife whose fragile state of mind has been publicised on a swinging site!
How do we know that the poor woman is bi polar and is not just suffering at the hands of her partner who feels it appropriate to offload intimate personal details about his wife and her state of mind on a swinging site. That betrayal of intimate and emotional trust would be enough to send anyone over the edge. What does it illustrate about the level of compassion and support he is really showing to his wife by publicising her weaknesses and illness on here on here?
In my mind it is a sick post and the wife needs to get out of the relationship before she suffers yet more trauma at the hands of someone who is more of a danger to his wife's state of mind. People with mental illness need rocks of security around them not people who grass up their failings anonymously on a swinging site.
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Never mind the wife whose fragile state of mind has been publicised on a swinging site!
How do we know that the poor woman is bi polar and is not just suffering at the hands of her partner who feels it appropriate to offload intimate personal details about his wife and her state of mind on a swinging site. That betrayal of intimate and emotional trust would be enough to send anyone over the edge. What does it illustrate about the level of compassion and support he is really showing to his wife by publicising her weaknesses and illness on here on here?
In my mind it is a sick post and the wife needs to get out of the relationship before she suffers yet more trauma at the hands of someone who is more of a danger to his wife's state of mind. People with mental illness need rocks of security around them not people who grass up their failings anonymously on a swinging site.

Really!!!!
and this written by someone who labeled his ex wife a parasite/dole scrounger in a public viewable forum
your glass house might need a Glazier
just to remind the viewers at home
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The whole problem with the benefits culture is that it has become a way of life. My ex wife is a perfect example of this kind of parasite. She won't work any more than part time hours because it will affect her benefits and her new boyfriend only stays at week-ends so that she can stay a single mother. In a nutshell this encapsulates the problem.

without any other knowledge we could all assume (being that's what were all doing here ) that you left your ex wife destitute with children to bring up, forcing her on benefits ...Nice !!!
or we could assume you ex wife gave up a career in order to bless you with children whilst destroying her figure, keep home for you, only for you to repay her sacrifices by running off with some ol Russian sort at the first opportunity.
see what i have done there?
you are assuming that his wife knows nothing of this post or his place on this site
STALKER.....
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Never mind the wife whose fragile state of mind has been publicised on a swinging site!
How do we know that the poor woman is bi polar and is not just suffering at the hands of her partner who feels it appropriate to offload intimate personal details about his wife and her state of mind on a swinging site. That betrayal of intimate and emotional trust would be enough to send anyone over the edge. What does it illustrate about the level of compassion and support he is really showing to his wife by publicising her weaknesses and illness on here on here?
In my mind it is a sick post and the wife needs to get out of the relationship before she suffers yet more trauma at the hands of someone who is more of a danger to his wife's state of mind. People with mental illness need rocks of security around them not people who grass up their failings anonymously on a swinging site.

Really!!!!
and this written by someone who labeled his ex wife a parasite/dole scrounger in a public viewable forum
your glass house might need a Glazier
just to remind the viewers at home
Quote by Too Hot
The whole problem with the benefits culture is that it has become a way of life. My ex wife is a perfect example of this kind of parasite. She won't work any more than part time hours because it will affect her benefits and her new boyfriend only stays at week-ends so that she can stay a single mother. In a nutshell this encapsulates the problem.

without any other knowledge we could all assume (being that's what were all doing here ) that you left your ex wife destitute with children to bring up, forcing her on benefits ...Nice !!!
or we could assume you ex wife gave up a career in order to bless you with children whilst destroying her figure, keep home for you, only for you to repay her sacrifices by running off with some ol Russian sort at the first opportunity.
see what i have done there?
you are assuming that his wife knows nothing of this post or his place on this site
Many thanks to Paddy, nyssalupa, jools_fun, lizaleanrob, herts_darlings1 and ste-n-kez, your support and understanding means a lot more than I can put in words.
With regard to too hot’s comments, I appreciate you have your own view, freedom of speech and all that, but I really need to point a few things out. Firstly; no one reading this post has any idea who I am, and more importantly, who my wife is, so it can’t possibly be an invasion of privacy. Secondly; she does not have a weakness, she has an illness. An illness that we are both learning to cope with, she is actually a very strong woman and hates the fact that her mind gets taken over by the Bi-Polar. And finally; my wife is fully aware that I discuss her illness with others. She is also aware that I have posted our story on a forum, whether it’s the wrong forum for this type of post is open for debate, although, the fact that many people have given positive feedback would suggest otherwise.
There are a growing number of people suffering a mental illness of some kind, and raising awareness can only be a positive thing. If my post encourages other sufferers to seek help, then it was well worth the effort.
Regards,
Mark.
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STALKER.....

report button at bottom left of post yellow triangle with exclamation mark in the middle :thumbup:
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Many thanks to Paddy, nyssalupa, jools_fun, lizaleanrob, herts_darlings1 and ste-n-kez, your support and understanding means a lot more than I can put in words.
With regard to too hot's comments, I appreciate you have your own view, freedom of speech and all that, but I really need to point a few things out. Firstly; no one reading this post has any idea who I am, and more importantly, who my wife is, so it can't possibly be an invasion of privacy. Secondly; she does not have a weakness, she has an illness. An illness that we are both learning to cope with, she is actually a very strong woman and hates the fact that her mind gets taken over by the Bi-Polar. And finally; my wife is fully aware that I discuss her illness with others. She is also aware that I have posted our story on a forum, whether it's the wrong forum for this type of post is open for debate, although, the fact that many people have given positive feedback would suggest otherwise.
There are a growing number of people suffering a mental illness of some kind, and raising awareness can only be a positive thing. If my post encourages other sufferers to seek help, then it was well worth the effort.
Regards,
Mark.

thanks for sharing mark
i think there is far to much ignorance with mental health issues
but what we do know is that support is the only help we can give,quite often only the sufferer is handed support and not all of those living with it.