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Quote by GnV
I understand what you are saying R_T but I can also see Jed's point.
Why should someone have to phone up their IP to announce that they are 'perverts' or 'sexual devients' and ask for the denied access to be switched on?
Is that information then passed on in good old 'joined up Government' fashion to someone who monitors paedophiles etc and you are then placed on a secret 'not yet convicted but a likely possibility' potential sex offender's register?

They are blocking access to adult sites, that includes gambling etc. knowing large companies amusement in using automation no doubt it will be just a case of applying for a pin number, ringing a number and following the commands... by the way looking at the general content of TV channels after the watershed I doubt the word pervert or deviants is applied to anyone who watches porn. I didn't have an issue ringing up vodaphone when I wanted it removed off my mobile dongle and if some folks do, I think that says more about them than government.
The capturing of data when visiting websites is already available, your PC broadcasts its ip when visiting sites, everytime you visit a porn site it is added to the list of every other ip thats visited. unless you are running your surfing through a proxy, masking your real identity.
It is not about what they are going to do, it is how they are controlling us more and more and think it right to do so.
Some people are irresponsible and let their children see porn. For that reason you believe we should all have to suffer the consequences.
Some people steal from shops, should we all be searched on the way out.
Presuming me guilty of allowing children to access porn on my computer is changing the fundamental rights of the British Citizen, innocent until proven guilty.
It is the same with a blanket ban on smoking in cars, more and more of our basic rights, beliefs and personal choices are being take away from us.
I fear for the Nation your grandchildren will be subjected to, read the article, no need, they have not made any decision yet so there is no point, the point is that it is being discussed so now is the time for everyone to discuss all scenarios of any ban and let your view for and against be known.
How would you separate a site showing movies of people having sex and for want of anther label a porn site, from this site which also has people on cam having sex ? or a site showing pictures of naked people from this one that has pictures of naked people ?
Why is my phone locked when I purchase it, I buy pay as you go for privacy reasons then have to give all my personal details to get it unlocked. why can't there be a rule regarding the type of SIM card sold either with a phone or on it's own, a supermarket sells a SIM card to anyone, a knife or glue to adults only ? They should have locked SIM cards for minors and unlocked SIM cards for Adults.
And don't say to me innocent until proven guilty is a thing of the past, no law has been passed to change our fundamental rights, changing policy without changing laws is wrong, ignorance of the law is no excuse in court, so there has to be written laws that the law abides by for that to work not the whim of a judge on the day.
If the protection of Children is of so much importance to the leaders of this Nation why ........
Is Great Ormond Street Hospital so reliant on charitable donations.
Is the NSPCC funded by donations.
Is St Bernardo's funded by donations.
Is obesity in children not being tackled as much as anti-smoking
Is underage binge drinking of no real concern to them.
Are parents who allow their children to become ill through obesity not charged with neglect and considered to be irresponsible, why are we not making laws or rules to say what parents should feed their children.
I wouldn't mind betting that all Nanny states started off changing a few rules and laws, imposing a few more dictates, Germany went from a relatively free Nation to a place where Jews were persecuted in just a few years.

Quote by sandybeach1
Thing is even if you don't actively look for porn it somehow pops up along with some of the most innocent of words you can type into a search engine, I once typed in leather collars as I was looking for a training lead for my new GSD and all sorts of interesting things popped up sillyhwoar:
I suppose kids get to a certain age where they will actively seek porn through sheer curiosity, but I can definitely understand why parents of anyone under the age of say 14 would want search engines to be "policed" and be able to let their younger kids use the internet freely.
Myself I like to watch it now and again but not sure I would like the world to know innocent

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Quote by Too Hot
Bit of over blown panic here me thinks...
As has already been noted, mobile phone companies prevent you accessing adult sites by default. All you have to do is give them a call and ask to remove the adult content restriction.
In my opinion, it is absolutely a step in the right direction and I can remember in the early days of Internet when my then young daughter searched "Spice Girls," I was horrified as I sat next to her at the images that popped up. Not welcome, not asked for and highly inappropriate in the circumstances. As a parent, I would rather know that a child making such a search is not going to become prematurely corrupted.

Let me get this right, you were horrified that adult images "Popped up" when searching for the Spice Girls, let us assume that you are a responsible adult and not one of those being discussed in this thread that has no pop-up blocker and adult content filter in place on your pc. So the Governments attempt to stop such sites being accessed is a waste of time then ?
Quote by MidsCouple24
Bit of over blown panic here me thinks...
As has already been noted, mobile phone companies prevent you accessing adult sites by default. All you have to do is give them a call and ask to remove the adult content restriction.
In my opinion, it is absolutely a step in the right direction and I can remember in the early days of Internet when my then young daughter searched "Spice Girls," I was horrified as I sat next to her at the images that popped up. Not welcome, not asked for and highly inappropriate in the circumstances. As a parent, I would rather know that a child making such a search is not going to become prematurely corrupted.

Let me get this right, you were horrified that adult images "Popped up" when searching for the Spice Girls, let us assume that you are a responsible adult and not one of those being discussed in this thread that has no pop-up blocker and adult content filter in place on your pc. So the Governments attempt to stop such sites being accessed is a waste of time then ?
Wind your neck in and go back to the mid 1990's (almost 20 years ago). Did I know then what I know now about the internet? Did you?
The issue here, is that there are people today just as ignorant as I was 20 years ago and so a default "safe" setting is better than a default "anything goes" setting.
Quote by Too Hot
Bit of over blown panic here me thinks...
As has already been noted, mobile phone companies prevent you accessing adult sites by default. All you have to do is give them a call and ask to remove the adult content restriction.
In my opinion, it is absolutely a step in the right direction and I can remember in the early days of Internet when my then young daughter searched "Spice Girls," I was horrified as I sat next to her at the images that popped up. Not welcome, not asked for and highly inappropriate in the circumstances. As a parent, I would rather know that a child making such a search is not going to become prematurely corrupted.

Let me get this right, you were horrified that adult images "Popped up" when searching for the Spice Girls, let us assume that you are a responsible adult and not one of those being discussed in this thread that has no pop-up blocker and adult content filter in place on your pc. So the Governments attempt to stop such sites being accessed is a waste of time then ?
Wind your neck in and go back to the mid 1990's (almost 20 years ago). Did I know then what I know now about the internet? Did you?
The issue here, is that there are people today just as ignorant as I was 20 years ago and so a default "safe" setting is better than a default "anything goes" setting.
Had you been someone else, someone who I was not familiar with by way of the forums I would have accused you of being naïve and irresponsible, but knowing you through the forums I did not believe that to be the case which is why I worded it as I did, you did not mention the timescale of when you did the search and with that timescale I would agree with you that knowledge of the dangers has changed just as the naivety has gone from such things as it has for the amount of paedophiles that infiltrated organisations that cared for children such as Barnardos, the BBC (Saville) the Scout Movement, the church etc, and this is understandable, but should not therefore the Government be concentrating on educating parents in child safety online as much as they do child safety on the roads ? should not PCs have all the locks set when sold for a parent to have to switch off rather than switch on, as people have said, it is done with phones before we buy them. The act of switching off safety features should include warnings of what may happen.
I would apologise but without that important timescale omission my assumption had reason.
with the inclusion of the timescale I believe you to be exonerated smile
Quote by MidsCouple24
Bit of over blown panic here me thinks...
As has already been noted, mobile phone companies prevent you accessing adult sites by default. All you have to do is give them a call and ask to remove the adult content restriction.
In my opinion, it is absolutely a step in the right direction and I can remember in the early days of Internet when my then young daughter searched "Spice Girls," I was horrified as I sat next to her at the images that popped up. Not welcome, not asked for and highly inappropriate in the circumstances. As a parent, I would rather know that a child making such a search is not going to become prematurely corrupted.

Let me get this right, you were horrified that adult images "Popped up" when searching for the Spice Girls, let us assume that you are a responsible adult and not one of those being discussed in this thread that has no pop-up blocker and adult content filter in place on your pc. So the Governments attempt to stop such sites being accessed is a waste of time then ?
Wind your neck in and go back to the mid 1990's (almost 20 years ago). Did I know then what I know now about the internet? Did you?
The issue here, is that there are people today just as ignorant as I was 20 years ago and so a default "safe" setting is better than a default "anything goes" setting.
Had you been someone else, someone who I was not familiar with by way of the forums I would have accused you of being naïve and irresponsible, but knowing you through the forums I did not believe that to be the case which is why I worded it as I did, you did not mention the timescale of when you did the search and with that timescale I would agree with you that knowledge of the dangers has changed just as the naivety has gone from such things as it has for the amount of paedophiles that infiltrated organisations that cared for children such as Barnardos, the BBC (Saville) the Scout Movement, the church etc, and this is understandable, but should not therefore the Government be concentrating on educating parents in child safety online as much as they do child safety on the roads ? should not PCs have all the locks set when sold for a parent to have to switch off rather than switch on, as people have said, it is done with phones before we buy them. The act of switching off safety features should include warnings of what may happen.
I would apologise but without that important timescale omission my assumption had reason.
with the inclusion of the timescale I believe you to be exonerated smile

no funnier thought than knowing as most kids show parents how to use mobile phones ect, would it not be the kids that would probably know how to turn off/on such filters
a rather pointless idiotic idea via the cameron (didn't really)think tank .