Quote by kentswingers777sory powers, i thort kenty had answered the question for me. just i cant understand why kenty says we should all be thankful to have a job and regular income to pay our bills ? surely he means dept ?
I do not think anyone on here would call me a leftie. :shock:
As for the longer hours and less pay blah blah....
Have people learnt nothing about strikes?
Ask the miners or the Printers or the car builders, all gone.
In todays climate with 3 million and rising on the dole, be thankful you have a job with regular income, and a means to pay your bills.
No wonder the TUC have no clout anymore, and the unions are about as much use as a wet blanket in winter.
The employers at Royal Mail do not get a bad screw, that is coming from someone I heard on the radio today.
You can ask for anything, but it is what you end up getting that counts, and maybe Royal Mail employees could end up losing more than they think they will gain by striking.
For some it is a long walk to the local dole office.
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Quote by gulsonroad30664sory powers, i thort kenty had answered the question for me. just i cant understand why kenty says we should all be thankful to have a job and regular income to pay our bills ? surely he means dept ?
I do not think anyone on here would call me a leftie. :shock:
As for the longer hours and less pay blah blah....
Have people learnt nothing about strikes?
Ask the miners or the Printers or the car builders, all gone.
In todays climate with 3 million and rising on the dole, be thankful you have a job with regular income, and a means to pay your bills.
No wonder the TUC have no clout anymore, and the unions are about as much use as a wet blanket in winter.
The employers at Royal Mail do not get a bad screw, that is coming from someone I heard on the radio today.
You can ask for anything, but it is what you end up getting that counts, and maybe Royal Mail employees could end up losing more than they think they will gain by striking.
For some it is a long walk to the local dole office.
do you mean debt?
no, i certainly would not call anyone who blames workers, imigrants, asylum seekers, trade unions, strikers, lazy claimants and dolites for the economic state of white indigenous english people a leftie. i would call them something else.
and yes, when the financial institutions got the government to deregulate banking and the city took off with a big bang to become the centre of the biggest ponzi scheme since the south seas bubble, all manufacturing and costly fuel production became surplus along with its workers and their organisations. it could be got cheaper elsewhere.
in todays climate with official figures of 12 million unemployed in the u.s. 3 million in the u.k. and 18 million in europe and rising, everyone who has a job should work harder, longer and for less money in order to reduce aggregate demand and create more unemployment ? the amount of dept created, the mother of which is the city of london, "this the mother of all crisies" quote from paul volker ex chairman of the federal reserve, is greater than planet earth gdp.
yes there is a solution, it begins with people asking questions, thinking for themselves, not accepting everything they are told but questioning. this will raise peoples awareness, intellect and culture and blow away the diversions of differences between colours, races and creeds which are created in a particular interest to divide and rule.
someone asked me a question regarding the cessation/repatriation of imigrants leading to war. such a policy encapsulated in the slogan "british jobs for british workers" means german jobs for german workers, french jobs for french workers, japanese jobs for japanese workers,spanish jobs for spanish workers etc and the repatriation of all british working there. this inevitably leads to protectionism and market control....war. the only way forward is the repudiation of derivitives and fictiteous value/dept and the creation of credit/money by the people, for the people.
and yes, when the financial institutions got the government to deregulate banking and the city took off with a big bang to become the centre of the biggest ponzi scheme since the south seas bubble, all manufacturing and costly fuel production became surplus along with its workers and their organisations. it could be got cheaper elsewhere.
in todays climate with official figures of 12 million unemployed in the u.s. 3 million in the u.k. and 18 million in europe and rising, everyone who has a job should work harder, longer and for less money in order to reduce aggregate demand and create more unemployment ? the amount of dept created, the mother of which is the city of london, "this the mother of all crisies" quote from paul volker ex chairman of the federal reserve, is greater than planet earth gdp.
yes there is a solution, it begins with people asking questions, thinking for themselves, not accepting everything they are told but questioning. this will raise peoples awareness, intellect and culture and blow away the diversions of differences between colours, races and creeds which are created in a particular interest to divide and rule.
someone asked me a question regarding the cessation/repatriation of imigrants leading to war. such a policy encapsulated in the slogan "british jobs for british workers" means german jobs for german workers, french jobs for french workers, japanese jobs for japanese workers,spanish jobs for spanish workers etc and the repatriation of all british working there. this inevitably leads to protectionism and market control....war. the only way forward is the repudiation of derivitives and fictiteous value/dept and the creation of credit/money by the people, for the people.
Quote by Mr-Powerssory powers, i thort kenty had answered the question for me. just i cant understand why kenty says we should all be thankful to have a job and regular income to pay our bills ? surely he means dept ?
I do not think anyone on here would call me a leftie. :shock:
As for the longer hours and less pay blah blah....
Have people learnt nothing about strikes?
Ask the miners or the Printers or the car builders, all gone.
In todays climate with 3 million and rising on the dole, be thankful you have a job with regular income, and a means to pay your bills.
No wonder the TUC have no clout anymore, and the unions are about as much use as a wet blanket in winter.
The employers at Royal Mail do not get a bad screw, that is coming from someone I heard on the radio today.
You can ask for anything, but it is what you end up getting that counts, and maybe Royal Mail employees could end up losing more than they think they will gain by striking.
For some it is a long walk to the local dole office.
do you mean debt?
Thank God you didn't ask him a long question?
Quote by gulsonroad30664
yeah, me splelin is crap, good diversionary tactic tho from the content. bit like specifics not bein perfectly accurate as opposed to the accuracy of a generality/trend. bit shakespearian really. yea debt. good banter tho init.
Not really as you keep copying and pasting the same things...it's like being on a roundabout. :shock:
Quote by gulsonroad30664
yeah, me splelin is crap, good diversionary tactic tho from the content. bit like specifics not bein perfectly accurate as opposed to the accuracy of a generality/trend. bit shakespearian really. yea debt. good banter tho init.
Not really,if i was stuck in a lift with you,i'd probably be up for murder!
Quote by gulsonroad30664
i have copied and pasted nothing kenty. if its your desire for people to respond to your posts, would it not be courteous for you to address the points raised by them in yours. why would you want to murder me ? i quite like you !
Gulsonroad, if you want people to answer your points, please make it easier to read them. Your posts read like one big ramble and to be quite honest, I give up long before I get anywhere near the end.
This is not meant as a dig, just a little constructive criticism.
Quote by Ben_welshminx
A democratic decision taken by the people who chose to join the union so who am I to argue with them. Im sure it isnt a decision they took lightly. The post office is bound to be dying on its arse now that we have open competition and the interwebnet.
Apparently, it was a 76% majority of voters that voted in favour of strike action, although only 60% of all eligible to vote actually voted.
Royal Mail also claim that there are 20,000 non union members who were not balloted so claim that only 40% of the actual workforce voted in favour of strike action.
Not sure how democratic that is if the figures are true?
Quote by Ben_welshminx
Well the decision of the union memebrs has no bearing on whether or not non members withdraw their labour does it?
I think both the majority and the turnout are pretty good compared lets say to the ballot that elects our MPs.
I think it probably will have some bearing, the non members will be pressurised not to cross picket lines.
Even without the non members, it still wasn't a majority of the members, only a majority of the voting members.
It has always been the same Max.
Whilst their members lose money and if it goes on for a while struggle, the very people that represent them and on many occasions are " trouble makers ", they get their full whack still.
I remember the miners strike, and that deluded idiot Scargil. Those miners lost so much yet old Arfur boy, he still racked in his bunce of dosh.
I just hope the Royal Mail employess think it will all be worth it in the end, but somehow like most strikes....it is the employees that lose the most.
Whilst their members lose money and if it goes on for a while struggle, the very people that represent them and on many occasions are " trouble makers ", they get their full whack still.
I remember the miners strike, and that deluded idiot Scargil. Those miners lost so much yet old Arfur boy, he still racked in his bunce of dosh.
I just hope the Royal Mail employess think it will all be worth it in the end, but somehow like most strikes....it is the employees that lose the most.
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We send around 30,000 pieces of mail from the UK to the USA and Canada every month and up until last week it went via Royal Mail.
Now it goes via courier to Belgium and still arrives in the USA at the same time for the same price but the Belgian Company have a far better tracking system which we were unaware of until we had to try it because of the strike action in the UK.
It is highly unlikely that we will go back to the Royal Mail irrespective of the outcome because the service is archaic by comparison. Our mailing is only a tiny fraction of what the UK mailing house actually processes and I wonder about the long term impact of not just that mailing house but all mailing houses that have probably now found more efficient distribution systems.
Not a shot in the foot, two shots - both feet and one still in the barrell for Hari Kari.
Now it goes via courier to Belgium and still arrives in the USA at the same time for the same price but the Belgian Company have a far better tracking system which we were unaware of until we had to try it because of the strike action in the UK.
It is highly unlikely that we will go back to the Royal Mail irrespective of the outcome because the service is archaic by comparison. Our mailing is only a tiny fraction of what the UK mailing house actually processes and I wonder about the long term impact of not just that mailing house but all mailing houses that have probably now found more efficient distribution systems.
Not a shot in the foot, two shots - both feet and one still in the barrell for Hari Kari.
Check the massive companies that are switching to other people.
Modernisation eh? For a lot of posties they will not see any of that, as they will not have any modern jobs to go in for, as they will will redundent.
Ditch the Union and get back to work....the people who say they " represent " you, are more interested in their own PR, than your jobs.....or pay the price.
I'll admit I haven't read all the reply's only the initial thread, but from what I understand the reason their striking is because of the likeliness of the introduction of automated sorting machines like Belgium. Is that right? If so I don't thing they have a leg to stand on! That's life. People have been losing their jobs for years because they've been replaced by machines. That's the cost of advancement. Dry your eyes and move on.
No doubt there's more to it than this but I don't get to watch the news or read much about it to be honest.
No doubt there's more to it than this but I don't get to watch the news or read much about it to be honest.
Quote by Bishopsboy
Im really pissed off with the public sector strikes this year. i have real trouble keeping my own little compny going and these idiots with secure jobs, good overtime, good pensions etc.
they dont know the real world .
No they won't secure jobs,overtime is pretty non-exsistant...good pensions
...they recently knocked a couple of grand a year off of the pensions. Quote by Mr-Powers
Im really pissed off with the public sector strikes this year. i have real trouble keeping my own little compny going and these idiots with secure jobs, good overtime, good pensions etc.
they dont know the real world .
No they won't secure jobs,overtime is pretty non-exsistant...good pensions
...they recently knocked a couple of grand a year off of the pensions.They are lucky....many have lost their pensions altogether.
Well, the news here suggests that the strike scheduled for Friday has been called off.
Good news.
What is better news is that the TUC seem to have brokered this.
At long last the Trades Unions seem to be working for their members. I watched the leader of the Union for Opel car workers today; He was not thumping the table calling for strike action since GM have decided not to sell to the Canadian Car Parts conglomerate but look for redundancies. He was calling on GM to work with them to increase their sales capacity to retain jobs.
Good work :thumbup:
Good news.
What is better news is that the TUC seem to have brokered this.
At long last the Trades Unions seem to be working for their members. I watched the leader of the Union for Opel car workers today; He was not thumping the table calling for strike action since GM have decided not to sell to the Canadian Car Parts conglomerate but look for redundancies. He was calling on GM to work with them to increase their sales capacity to retain jobs.
Good work :thumbup:
