Between a rock and a hard place here fabio. On one hand my head say yes of course he should be allowed to have his say and people will see how dangerous he is.
On the other hand my heart wants him to have a smack in the mouth and be gagged forever so that people won't have the chance to be swayed by his dark charisma.
I guess on weight I think he should be allowed. I could refer back to cases such as Gerry Adams and him being gagged for so long but in the end allowed to be heard was that a good thing when he advocated violence and death in the 70's?
Yeah let him speak say I.
My thinking is very much along the same lines as Lost.
I do worry about the impact the BNPs hate message has on those who feel society has abandoned them. It may well be a record audience and it will serve the BNP well if the majority of the new viewers are potential BNP voters.
You can rest assured the BNP will be spouting the popular agenda that masks their true intentions and many will be fooled.
Other idiots are allowed to speak so why not him.
He is leader of a party that has elected members however much it isnt liked
I share the sentiments of the previous posters. To ban them might well play into their hands.
Let's just hope the other panelists can expose him for what he is.
ps just editing a typo
The trouble is that there are millions of people who know very little about the BNP who could benefit from the oportunity of seeing and hearing Griffin being cross examined. All you ever hear is the hysterical ranting of middle class White left wingers and scruffy students, people don't like being told what they should think by the fascist left anymore than they would the fascist right. The BNP got close to one million votes in a recent election, that from a population of over sixty million doesn't amount to much. Instead of trying to censor them the oposing groups should trust the public to watch this program and make up their own minds. Him being on tonights program won't get him many new supporters, unfortunately the fuss that has been made about it might.
What would backfire even more so is if he was attacked and injured or killed, there are others waiting to take over when he is gone and a martyr would help them tremendously.
The National Front were more or less destroyed back in 1979, not because people stopped them from speaking but because Maggie Thatcher was strong enough to make
sure that every single one of their candidates lost their deposits. The answer is a
strong centre right, Cameron is going to win the next election by a landslide, but he has
still to win over the Tory right.
I hope this is making sence as I am aware how volatile this kind of thing can be.
BG
Let him speak...
The public can then make a more informed decision about him and the party instead of having the opinion of the media as their main source of information....
They can hear the questions and the answers and go from there.
Fabs....under " normal " circumstances I may well have started this thread, and many no doubt thought I would.
As I have been labelled a BNP " activist " I shall refrain from really saying what I think about this, but only to say I think he should be allowed to speak for sure.
The only doubts I have about tonights show are that the audience will boo and hiss constantly. There will be activists in the audience that are there to goad him, and I think that will only make his appearance more appealing to some.
Also I think the panel appearing with him are a bit weak, and I think a much more suitable candidate could have been found than Jack Straw.
He is a MEP his party have two seats, and the other parties lack of talking and acting on immigration, have added to this guys popularity. Had the other parties have discussed this important issue a couple of years ago, the BNP would not be as big as they have become.
It is only now that the other parties are going to talk about the immigration issue, and the fact the UK's population will soar to over 71 million in a few years, if nothing is done.
I have said for years about uncontrolled immigration will spark riots if nothing is done, and I still believe that. The other parties should have addressed this but they chickened out, as the fear of being branded ( like me ) a racist or a bigot they were terrified of happening. So they just got that bucket and stuck their heads in it.
The BNP have been clever enough to get hold of this issue and capitalise on it to their advantage. I said they would three years ago, and I have proved to be right.
Question time tonight will have their biggest figures ever, but like all politicians the BNP leader ain't an idiot. He will know what to say and how to say it, and whilst in the audience they will be booing and hissing, their will I believe be many people up and down the country in their living rooms, who will like what he says.
You cannot hide under a carpet over such important issues, for to do that and not talk about these things, will eventually have an opposite effect to what you were trying to achieve in the first place.
Democracy and free speech is what this country has been proud of for a long time, but there are some who want to take that away from people. The racist slur is getting a tired old story, and once again that will end up having the negative effect, and not the positive one it started out to be.
It is NOT racist to talk about massive ammounts of immigrants coming into the UK, for not talking about it this is where we are finding ourselves right now. With a BBC programme allowing a right wing party onto it's biggest political arena. With a lot of people waiting to put their x's on their ballot papers next year.
Immigration IS a huge issue to a lot of people, and not just " white " people either. Now we are going to pay the price for the screaming amongst us out there, who do not want to discuss this issue. For the BNP have and will tonight, so you sow what you reap.
I will no doubt watch the show tonight, but I do not think the BNP will come out as the racist thugs they are, and that is my worry. It could backfire and just increase their popularity for to push a member of the BNP underground is a very dangerous and one sighted view of things. Much better they are out in the open I feel.
yes...he should be allowed on...but also he is no doubt aware....that should he say anything racist...or anything likely to promote racist behaviour he will be duly arrested.
Now firstly let me nail my colours to the mast..I dispise the BNP and what they stand for and I dispise this person. I am amazed that anyone above can say the party and him are not racist !! lets just take one single easy point that can be easily proved. He and his party will not allow anyone other than a white british person, be a member of his party !!! Please explain to me how that is not race discrimination please !!
I sincerly hope he gets showed up for the extremist, fascist, racist scum that he is.
here is quote from website today steve....think you will find they are very carefull about what they say. They say intending to change it.....question is to what. But as can be seen from the quote below.....whatever thay do change it to..it will not be because they want to. I stand by my comment that the BNP is racist.
"If the Conservative Party is permitted to discriminate in terms of involvement in favour of women, the BNP must be permitted to discriminate in terms of involvement in favour of whiteworking class
This has been discussed on here before.
UNTIL everyone no matter what colour you are, are afforded the same, race will always be an issue.
Many whites I know despise the fact you have a " black police officers association " or the " black music awards ".
Yes I know they do not openly say blacks only, but can a white person be nominated for the music awards?
How the heck does that create racial harmony? Should it matter what colour you are to pick up an award?
IF there was an open " whites music award " that would NOT be allowed, so nor should it be for the " black music awards ".
Until people realise that this kind of thing has such a negative impact, race will always be an issue. Stop looking at the colour of ones skin to determine an award or whatever, and base everything on ability. That is the only way forward.
The BNP feed on this kind of crap, and they know it works for them.
Then may I suggest you look into the reasons of the Oldham riots.
There are many areas of the UK that are a ticking timebomb that will take only a minor thing to kick it off. There is no doubt it is on a knife edge.
Ignore it at ones peril.
After the hysteria bing whipped up to frenzy point over the last two weeks or so I hope those responsible watch the show tonight. It starts at 10:35pm and it is going to be one heck of a fiasco. Behold if you will, a middle aged one eyed Welsh former public schoolboy with an Oxbridge degree. There is nothing remarkable about him except that he is the leader of a nationalist political party, but tonight because certain individuals didn't get their own way when they demanded that the BBC ban him from appearing, and consquently threw all there toys out of the pram, he will run a gauntlet of violence and abuse just to get to the studio and make his apperance amid even more rabid abuse. Those who support him can then hold him up as some kind of speech martyr, and it will have been made believable by those who are supposed to be against him.
The stupidity of some people never ceases to amaze me. I wonder if the word "numpties" has made it into the dictionary yet?
BG
But surely BG to not give him this, will make some wonder why. What are they scared of?
There will be aggro outside for sure, but is that not the wrong way to go about things?
Give him the airtime and let adults make up their own minds.....is that not what democracy is all about?
To take that freedom away surely that is not what the UK has fought and died for over many years?
Hate him and his party as much as we all like, but he will not go away purely because nobody will give him the time. That is an even bigger dangerous game to play.
You can silence people but they just go underground and become an even more dangerous that such a good idea?
Anyone who shares the beliefs and values of the BNP is a thug and a lot more besides.
While Abu Hanza is roting in jail for this very racial views others are given the stage to spread their narrowminded goofering,can someone tell the bigot Nick that immigration started in Exodus there is nothing he can do to STOP it...he disgust me i want my Tv license back lol.
If the B.N.P. are a legitimate political party why I wonder do its supporters seem so reluctant to admit they are.
As for Griffins appearance on question time....I'm torn ,part of me believes that he, like anyone else should be allowed a platform another part believes he should be torn apart by wild he will appear as ridiculous as he and his views really are.
Tis a tricky one this - my heart says no he shouldn't be allowed. Yet, my dwindling belief in democracy and being all being allowed to have a voice says yes.
Hopefully, people will make their own minds up. Seems many of the activists outside the beeb today have made there's.
Abu Hanza..incited racial hated, unrest and tension..and for that I dispised what he stood for and what he said.
Nick Griffin...AS above ....
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