Many years ago when I first started studying history it was all about dates. When did this happen, when did that happen, etc.
Since then I have learnt that when is irrelevant without why did it happen? Who did it happen to? What happened after? and What was the context at the time?
We cannot sit here in 2013 and cast judgement on the past by our modern standards. Yes we should learn from the mistakes of history, but we cannot condemn the morals of people, communities, countries or civilization itself just because it doesn't meet the standards of today.
You're quite right Trev, we should learn from past mistakes and decisions, good and bad, and then change our ways to embrace the lessons learned.
If you don't embrace those changes you soon find yourself being left behind!
Seems to me that Syria has become far less news worthy since the crisis has taken a small step back from the political and military brinkmanship. Well that must really help the displaced and damaged populace.
I reckon swinging in syria could be f*ckin risky
It appears that any action we undertake against ISIS will be to not only protect the Western world but also to protect arabs and muslims, there is nothing wrong with that, ISIS is currently targeting more muslims than they are the West and it is good to think that we are willing to protect the decent muslims who will not join the ISIS terror organisation and way of life.
Perhaps we will even show some of the "undecided" that the West is tolerant of non-radical religious factions.
But ISIS have shown that our initial support of the freedom fighters/terrorists/rebels (use a label to suit your own point of view)in Syria and willingness of some to arm and assist them was as dangerous an action as some believed it to be.
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western intelligence.
how strange that the democratic (public beheading in the case of saudi arabia) monachies of saudi arabia, jordan, arab emirates, qatar and baharain, bastions of civil rights in the middle east, join hands with the u.s. to bomb their own trained, financed and armed rebels in iraq and SYRIA !
the purpose of the creation of the big bogey in iraq and syria with the hollywood staged beheadings is to degrade (bomb) the infrastructure of the syrian state of bashere al assad to support the failing mercenary "free syrian army" that is neither free nor syrian.
the purpose is to overthrow the syrian regime and break the country up into failed smaller environs, that the b.p.'s, cheverons and exxons can steal the natural resources and facilitate oil and gas pipelines up from the gulf, across syria to turkey. these energy supplies from the gulf will neutralise the trade between russia and europe to further isolate russia, china and the brics trading block.
if you are confused as why one minuet we (our governments using our taxes) are supporting rebels to overthrow a sovereign government and then bombing them the next, its because, in concert the mainstream media has you spellbound. its all b.s. and propaganda serving a greater agenda.
the first casualty of any war is truth. the only problem today is that the two big fish that america wants to fry know the plan and are preparing to defend themselves.
Interesting account guls.
Even more interesting is the faux debate in the HoC last week, MP's recalled (so that they can enjoy a lavish tax payer subsidised lunch) at the same time as Cameroon announces that he is quite prepared to hide behind so called ' Royal Prerogative' to bomb the shit out of Syria if he choses to do so without further debate. I think at this point, most Honourable and Right Honourable Members were best part of the way down a jolly nice claret and certainly not in the chamber to mumble their usual platitudes.
Just how much did that little exercise cost, one wonders, in the name of democracy at a time when further austerity measures are being heaped on the tax paying class?
I said it before and at the risk of repeating myself too often, I'll say it again.
The west has no place in the affairs of the middle east. As the General Election draws closer, Cameroon will want to give impressions of being le grande empereur l'Europe - but is just full of shit and snot - in the hope that the great British public will be fooled into letting him have another term (helpfully without the liberal wank*rs holding him back from making a right t*t of himself).
Sadly, I fear the alternative far more... a labour government led by red Ed and his equally nasty and incompetant mates...
Anyone for tennis?
So the latest victim of the ISIS propaganda is a 15 year old schoolgirl, such a shame, a shame BUT she has made her choice and left to join ISIS, why then are the Met Police financing an appeal by her Mother for her to return to the UK, I thought and supported the idea that these terrorists would NOT be welcome or permitted back in the UK.
Personally I would let her back in and jail her for joining an illegal organisation because she is a British Citizen born in the UK, but her family were not born here and are not from an EU member state so I would kick them out.
Harsh, yes, but the only deterrent we have against the would be jihadists. They care not for what happens to them, perhaps if they thought their families would suffer from their actions they would think twice about joining terrorist groups. I would rather fight terrorism with harshness than terror.