if only we was a little tougher
Sex God
the french premier it seems is not suffering fools or allowing certain groups to hide behind human right laws
if only we was a little tougher
if only we was a little tougher
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Sex God
Quote by flower411
the french premier it seems is not suffering fools or allowing certain groups to hide behind human right laws
if only we was a little tougher
But ..... this can`t be true !!! Surely ALL of these people simply pass through France to get to Britain !
if that's what you believe
Quote by flower411
the french premier it seems is not suffering fools or allowing certain groups to hide behind human right laws
if only we was a little tougher
But ..... this can`t be true !!! Surely ALL of these people simply pass through France to get to Britain !
Perfectly legitimately, if it were true...
"Some have accused the French president of pandering to the far-right, of stigmatising a vulnerable group. One MP from the president's own party called the round-up "disgraceful" and compared it with what the Nazis did. However, the measures appear to be popular with the public and the president has seen his poll ratings edge up.
The secretary-general of Mr Sarkozy's party, Xavier Bertrand, said the actions were "a slap in the face" for the politically correct ".
Firstly any begging on the streets should be made illegal, certainly I would like to see that over here, as a lot are just organised begging.
The comments above are indeed a slap in the face for the politically correct brigade.
There is a lot of good points made in the article....is it warm in France GNV as I might join ya over there for a wee holiday.
I think we have a similar problem in Peterborough with illegal camps set up on roundabout fgs.
I for one would like to see that stopped over here, it just clutters up the enviroment.
The secretary-general of Mr Sarkozy's party, Xavier Bertrand, said the actions were "a slap in the face" for the politically correct ".
Firstly any begging on the streets should be made illegal, certainly I would like to see that over here, as a lot are just organised begging.
The comments above are indeed a slap in the face for the politically correct brigade.
There is a lot of good points made in the article....is it warm in France GNV as I might join ya over there for a wee holiday.
I think we have a similar problem in Peterborough with illegal camps set up on roundabout fgs.
I for one would like to see that stopped over here, it just clutters up the enviroment.
I think the other point not being made in the article, but certainly made here on French TV (by the Politically Correct of course, no doubt, allegedly, without any fear or favour on my part and with absolutely no malice intended or directed at any one individual living or dead or any collective group of people who may or not be members of SH and living or dead who may or may not be offended by a comment not intended to be offensive, racist or against the AUP) is that the Roma's volunteering to go back are being paid by the State to do so and the flights are being funded centrally but since these people have not "offended" the French State nor have they been accused of having taken part in any criminal activity they, as European Citizens, have the continued right to return to France at some later stage should they wish to do so. They believe it's a waste of scarce public funds.
The ones being deported, under EU law as stated in the well reported article will not be allowed to return to France and therefore might well become economic migrants heading for Britain's shores and with similar illegitimacy.
The ones being deported, under EU law as stated in the well reported article will not be allowed to return to France and therefore might well become economic migrants heading for Britain's shores and with similar illegitimacy.
Quote by GnV
without any fear or favour on my part and with absolutely no malice intended or directed at any one individual living or dead or any collective group of people who may or not be members of SH and living or dead who may or may not be offended by a comment not intended to be offensive, racist or against the AUP
A brilliant disclaimer GNV.....can I use it too?
Maybe I should have that as my thingy at the bottom of each post.....what ya think? :lol:
Orgasminator
Yeah but he gave them a train ticket east and the gas chambers rather than a plane ticket east and €300.
Orgasminator
Im just saying, its not quite ethnic cleansing. Sending people back to their home countries isn't quite the same as murdering them en mass. It's not a comparrison.
Quote by vampanya
Im just saying, its not quite ethnic cleansing. Sending people back to their home countries isn't quite the same as murdering them en mass. It's not a comparrison.
What vamps wrote :thumbup:
Sending people back to their home country when they have been acting somewhat inappropriately in their new host country makes a great deal of sense.
Don't forget the straw that broke the camels back here... allegedly, a Roma shot at Police whilst robbing a bank in Grenoble and the Police, quite rightfully and within the rule of Law, fired back and killed him. That is the risk any robber takes when confronting armed Police. The Roma then went on a rampage trashing the assets of ordinary French citizens and creating mayhem. The French had to act, and act they did! The Prefet, who seemed to be struggling with the matter, was immediately replaced by the President in order to restore order to the streets and the inappropriately acting Roma who the French had been (almost) tolerating were rounded up and deported. At the same time, Roma who had not been disobedient were given the opportunity to return to their homeland with their heads held high. They were not forced, just encouraged. Many Roma have no doubt stayed in France and continue to be welcome here. Long may that continue.
If you want to live in a foreign land, surely you must be prepared to live by the standards of the nation whose hosting you seek?
Sex God
*QUOTE* President Sarkozy has ordered the police to break up 300 illegal Roma camps, and there are plans - starting today - to deport 700 of them.
I see no problem with this situation, people are breaking the law and must be stopped from doing so. I would not expect to break the law and get away with it nether should anyone else, whatever the nationality may be...
This is not about ethnic cleansing or race, it about enforcing the law.
I see no problem with this situation, people are breaking the law and must be stopped from doing so. I would not expect to break the law and get away with it nether should anyone else, whatever the nationality may be...
This is not about ethnic cleansing or race, it about enforcing the law.
Orgasminator
Home for the Roma in this case is Bulgaria and Romania is it not?
Quote by Ben_welshminx
I dont know, I always thought the Roma were an indigenous European wide nomadic people. I note there is little detail on how the Roma are being defined for these purposes.
One thing I should add is that I believe the Nazis tried "repatriating" before they went on to extermination.
I find your comment about the nazis and the implied correlation to the current French action concerning Roma deeply disturbing.
Will you kindly retract this?
Sex God
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Godwins Law
Quote by Kaznkev
Why should `someone retract that they see parallels in we do not learn from history we are doomed to repeat the mistakes of the past.
The Roma were among the first groups to be regulated against in discrimination continues today across often creeps in by small incremental steps.
Its often not so much as to what one writes, but how what is written is seen by the recipient.
Quote by Ben_welshminx
One thing I should add is that I believe the Nazis tried "repatriating" before they went on to extermination.
I see a direct correlation between Ben's comment and an inappropriate suggestion that the French will start exterminating Roma. His comment was not a restatement of history as a reference, he was expressing a belief which is quite different and which I find very offensive.
You may have a different view. However, it's how it's received by the intended audience/recipient that makes a remark offensive. You can't make a decision on behalf of the person who is offended, whether it is the person who it's directed at, or just someone who reads it.
Sex God
taken from the website
now if it turns out that this sort of behaviour is not acceptable in a foreign country then they will have to live by the law of the land or go back to where they came from
its a very simple and perfectly civilized rule that all visitors to our and other shores should consider before undertaking such a venture
after all would you let someone into your house to do as they please and treat it however they please!!
i very much doubt it
There is evidence that much of the begging is organised and controlled by men. The women are expected to bring in at least 50 euros a day. Some, like outside the Gare Du Nord, operate in groups of up to 15. The police believed that invalids and children, who are used to gain sympathy, are shared out between the groups.
It is the view of the French president that begging is part of a wider deeper problem involving some of the Roma. He believes that illegal Roma camps on the edge of French cities are a linked to serious crime. The Elysee Palace explained that the Roma camps were "sources of illegal trafficking, profoundly shocking living standards, the exploitation of children for begging, prostitution and crime."
now if it turns out that this sort of behaviour is not acceptable in a foreign country then they will have to live by the law of the land or go back to where they came from
its a very simple and perfectly civilized rule that all visitors to our and other shores should consider before undertaking such a venture
after all would you let someone into your house to do as they please and treat it however they please!!
i very much doubt it
