What is the best way to measure intelligence?

24 Sep 2010

Inspired by the comment below by Awayman, hope you don't mind.
I often have conversation, discussions, and provide a service for people who are supposed intelligent people yet seam to hide their intellect very well. Is, for instance, a person who is a member of Mensa more intelligent than a man who can rewire a house?

Quote by awayman
Incidentally, is the notion that you can weigh intelligence evidence of higher intelligence?

What do you think is the best way to measure intelligence? By today's standards, what sort of A-level results would you consider as proof of intelligence?
Is intelligence confined to academic criteria, or are there other more practical ways to gauge a person's mental abilities?
How valuable is academic intelligence? Is common sense more important? What kind of intelligence is most important for success in life?
Questions stolen from here;

24 Sep 2010

What is the best way to measure intelligence?
Join a forum, much will become apparent.....

24 Sep 2010

Quote by essex34m
What is the best way to measure intelligence?
Join a forum, much will become apparent.....

:laughabove::laughabove::laughabove::laughabove::laughabove:

24 Sep 2010

Everyone has intelligence, it is how they use it that counts.
You have to be intelligent to build a house, or to go to University, or to become a Doctor.
Even dense people have intelligence as everyone has something they are good at that needs a level of intelligence.
Does that actually make any fucking sense to anyone? lol

24 Sep 2010

It's true what Ken says, you don't even need an ounce of intelligence to operate a press print, even a monkey can do that!
bolt

24 Sep 2010

Quote by kentswingers777
Everyone has intelligence, it is how they use it that counts.
You have to be intelligent to build a house, or to go to University, or to become a Doctor.
Even dense people have intelligence as everyone has something they are good at that needs a level of intelligence.
Does that actually make any fucking sense to anyone?

Yes it does.
I read something recently, where the person who wrote the article was complaining about popular phrases or words, and one he complained about was 'Get a life', his argument being that if they are living, they have a life.

24 Sep 2010

Quote by Mr-Powers
It's true what Ken says, you don't even need an ounce of intelligence to operate a press print, even a monkey can do that!

Where is the fuckoff emotion? lol

Awwww Powers.................I know you care ya big softie you. :twisted:

24 Sep 2010

Quote by kentswingers777
It's true what Ken says, you don't even need an ounce of intelligence to operate a press print, even a monkey can do that!

Where is the fuckoff emotion? lol

Awwww Powers.................I know you care ya big softie you. :twisted:
I really expected some thing more intelegent from you kenty wink

:bolt:

24 Sep 2010

Blue............there is TWO L's in intelligent, ya thicko. lol

24 Sep 2010

Quote by kentswingers777
Blue............there is TWO L's in intelligent, ya thicko.

Feck me,must be gremlins in the spell check...... :lol: I think you mean ficko dunno

24 Sep 2010

No Blue........ficko is not intelligent, but thicko shows that great quality of pure intelligence. lol

25 Sep 2010

Quote by kentswingers777
Everyone has intelligence, it is how they use it that counts.
You have to be intelligent to build a house, or to go to University, or to become a Doctor.
Even dense people have intelligence as everyone has something they are good at that needs a level of intelligence.
Does that actually make any fucking sense to anyone?

Yes :thumbup:
On a related note, some people seem to think that 'educated' or having been to whatever school, means they are intelligent. It doesn't.

25 Sep 2010

Quote by Freckledbird
Everyone has intelligence, it is how they use it that counts.
You have to be intelligent to build a house, or to go to University, or to become a Doctor.
Even dense people have intelligence as everyone has something they are good at that needs a level of intelligence.
Does that actually make any fucking sense to anyone?

Yes :thumbup:
On a related note, some people seem to think that 'educated' or having been to whatever school, means they are intelligent. It doesn't.
:thumbup:
I know some people who think they are intelligent, but actually are as thick as shite. :lol:

25 Sep 2010

Quote by kentswingers777
Everyone has intelligence, it is how they use it that counts.
You have to be intelligent to build a house, or to go to University, or to become a Doctor.
Even dense people have intelligence as everyone has something they are good at that needs a level of intelligence.
Does that actually make any fucking sense to anyone?

Yes :thumbup:
On a related note, some people seem to think that 'educated' or having been to whatever school, means they are intelligent. It doesn't.
:thumbup:
I know some people who think they are intelligent, but actually are as thick as shite. :lol:
I don't think you are that bad Kenny rotflmao

Dave_Notts
(Blatant misread of post)

25 Sep 2010

Cheers Davey.
Unlike you to blatantly read a post wrong, still some do it all the time.
bolt

25 Sep 2010

Quote by Freckledbird
On a related note, some people seem to think that 'educated' or having been to whatever school, means they are intelligent. It doesn't.

Whilst some people might be outstanding academically, they lack common sense or the ability to be 'streetwise' and vice versa.
In the industry I work in, we get a large number of graduates, and sadly, they can't deviate from what they have gleaned from textbooks, and these textbooks can't cater for the fact that every worksite is different, and different problems crop up, and there has been some rather interesting arguments with graduates.
I am now at the point where I start the conversation with "may I make a suggestion?" and if they come back (as many do) with the attitude of "I am the graduate, I am educated" routine, I make them feel as though they are on a pedestal, and more right than I will ever be.
Then when it all goes tits up in the way I tried explaining, my ego and arrogance comes to the fore.

25 Sep 2010

for me...simple...those that are contented and happy....are the ones with intelligence.

25 Sep 2010

Great question. And not sure if I know the answer. I think I know how we shouldn't measure it. And that is by any SINGLE criterion. For instance, knowing 'stuff' isn't intellience, since a bucket can store 'stuff' and that's the same thing. Having a qualification often proves little more than the ability to obtain that qualification. Doing or understanding things quickly isn't especially a measure of intelligence either.
For me, someone's intelligence is realised over time. It's to do with how they respond to events, people, difficulties. I especially value the ability to apply experience to a problem in a novel or 'lateral thinking' kind of way.

25 Sep 2010

Quote by deancannock
for me...simple...those that are contented and happy....are the ones with intelligence.

Are you talking about dogs or humans there?

25 Sep 2010

I believe intelligence is in how you apply the knowledge you have.
Knowledge can be gained in many areas within life and not just down to formal education.
I once asked a long time ago, in this forum what intelligence meant and someone responded what I have just said and it made complete sense to me, so have always since seen it that way.

25 Sep 2010

Quote by Theladyisaminx
I believe intelligence is in how you apply the knowledge you have.

Does that count you in or out Minxy? lol

25 Sep 2010

Quote by kentswingers777
I believe intelligence is in how you apply the knowledge you have.

Does that count you in or out Minxy? lol

I am still gaining knowledge, so I will tell you when I know wink

25 Sep 2010

:laughabove::laughabove:
Honesty is always the best policy Minxy.

27 Sep 2010

Now I would have called that intelligent rather than honest wink

28 Sep 2010

I have always claimed that knowledge is what you know, and intelligence is the ability to gain further facts from that knowledge.
So building a house is possible by a person with no intelligence, if that person was shown how to do it. Intelligence, is the ability to pull together what you know about bricks and mortar and then build a house, having never been shown.
...........and wisdom, is not to build it on a flood plain. Something our planners seem to lack.
Travis

28 Sep 2010

Quote by flower411
I have always claimed that knowledge is what you know, and intelligence is the ability to gain further facts from that knowledge.
So building a house is possible by a person with no intelligence, if that person was shown how to do it. Intelligence, is the ability to pull together what you know about bricks and mortar and then build a house, having never been shown.
...........and wisdom, is not to build it on a flood plain. Something our planners seem to lack.
Travis

A prime example of the fact that education does not necessarily impart intelligence or wisdom and that "educated" people can be extraordinarily thick.
Then the really intelligent who then buy it wink

Dave_Notts

28 Sep 2010

Quote by Dave__Notts
I have always claimed that knowledge is what you know, and intelligence is the ability to gain further facts from that knowledge.
So building a house is possible by a person with no intelligence, if that person was shown how to do it. Intelligence, is the ability to pull together what you know about bricks and mortar and then build a house, having never been shown.
...........and wisdom, is not to build it on a flood plain. Something our planners seem to lack.
Travis

A prime example of the fact that education does not necessarily impart intelligence or wisdom and that "educated" people can be extraordinarily thick.
Then the really intelligent who then buy it wink

Dave_Notts
If your not from the area, would one know dunno

28 Sep 2010

Quote by flower411

Then the really intelligent who then buy it
Dave_Notts

If your not from the area, would one know dunno

It`s the big flat bit next to the river !! lol

:rotflmao::rotflmao::rotflmao::rotflmao::rotflmao:
People need to stop blaming others and take responsibility for their actions. If I was going to make a large investment then I would look at the area and get an Environment Agency flood report. Thats because I am smart :smug:
And then buy a house 30 yards from the fecking River Trent :doh:
Dave_Notts

28 Sep 2010

Quote by Bluefish2009
I have always claimed that knowledge is what you know, and intelligence is the ability to gain further facts from that knowledge.
So building a house is possible by a person with no intelligence, if that person was shown how to do it. Intelligence, is the ability to pull together what you know about bricks and mortar and then build a house, having never been shown.
...........and wisdom, is not to build it on a flood plain. Something our planners seem to lack.
Travis

A prime example of the fact that education does not necessarily impart intelligence or wisdom and that "educated" people can be extraordinarily thick.
Then the really intelligent who then buy it wink

Dave_Notts
If your not from the area, would one know dunno

Seriously, anyone who wants to buy a house and doesn't check :
local maps for elevation of the land around the house,
the local website or government/police websites for crime figures,
local transport,
provision of doctor's surgeries and dentists,
proximity of schools (not too close, not too far),
location of shops - has it got a post office,
is there a decent pub or two,
and, if close enough, goes to take a look around at school start and finish times as well as at the weekend,
shouldn't be allowed out with a mortgage.
The information is out there. Even without a home internet facility; local libraries have them, as will friends, relations and colleagues.
If someone moves into an area and then complains about what is already there, they won't get my sympathy. My sis's mother-in-law moved to a new place and complained about the church bells ringing ffs!
If conditions change, then they will. My friend lives near a farm, It was sold and became a dead-chicken prosessing factory with all the attendant lorries and stink. That's horrible.

29 Sep 2010

Quote by Dave__Notts

Then the really intelligent who then buy it
Dave_Notts

If your not from the area, would one know dunno

It`s the big flat bit next to the river !! lol

:rotflmao::rotflmao::rotflmao::rotflmao::rotflmao:
People need to stop blaming others and take responsibility for their actions. If I was going to make a large investment then I would look at the area and get an Environment Agency flood report. Thats because I am smart :smug:
And then buy a house 30 yards from the fecking River Trent :doh:
Dave_Notts
If I didn't get one I'd sue my conveyancing solicitor, said the man who lives in a house that's next to the sea and below sea level