hi i am a 41 year old male looking to meet a lady aged 47-55, i live in essex and would prefer some one from the essex, london, or kent area.i am married so only interested in a nsa relationship. i am 5"9 tall medium build, i smoke. i am tactile and like to touch and be touched. if your interested get in touch my e-mail is hope to hear from you soon X
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hi i am a 41 year old male looking to meet a lady aged 47-55, i live in essex and would prefer some one from the essex, london, or kent area.i am married so only interested in a nsa relationship. i am 5"9 tall medium build, i smoke. i am tactile and like to touch and be touched. if your interested get in touch my e-mail is hope to hear from you soon X
mate, you didnt say if your wife knows and approves. If she does thats fine, no doubt she would confirm that to any interested lady from here :thumbup:
on the other hand if she is unaware, what makes you think a honest swinger would be interested in cheating on her with you ?
Sex God
Quote by kristof
hi i am a 41 year old male looking to meet a lady aged 47-55, i live in essex and would prefer some one from the essex, london, or kent area.i am married so only interested in a nsa relationship. i am 5"9 tall medium build, i smoke. i am tactile and like to touch and be touched. if your interested get in touch my e-mail is hope to hear from you soon
mate, you didnt say if your wife knows and approves. If she does thats fine, no doubt she would confirm that to any interested lady from here :thumbup:
on the other hand if she is unaware, what makes you think a honest swinger would be interested in cheating on her with you ?
Look I'm sorry if this offends you or anyone else with your opinions regarding married men, but I for one am sick of reading post where these guys are being preached to about their morals
You may not agree with what they are doing, but really is it any of your business anyway?
You know nothing about these guys and their lives and as we have read on so many threads, they are often in a loving relationship in every other aspect apart from the sexual one.
Jeeze! Give them a break. This site is not intended to be a moral soapbox. We are all here to have fun and even married guys are entitled to some of that ffs!
If you don't agree with their posts, perhaps you could at least refrain from giving them your humble opinions of *their* lives and how they should be lead :roll:
Tracy-Jayne - who has no morals because she has shagged several married men :roll: :mrgreen:
Quote by bloke
hi i am a 41 year old male looking to meet a lady aged 47-55, i live in essex and would prefer some one from the essex, london, or kent area.i am married so only interested in a nsa relationship. i am 5"9 tall medium build, i smoke. i am tactile and like to touch and be touched. if your interested get in touch my e-mail is hope to hear from you soon X
OM fluffing G are you swinging or cheating hun?????? Sorry to be blunt but this is a site for swingers not cheats!!!!!!
Does your wife know your here, maybe see if she is interested herself, she might surprise you!!
Redhot I have an opinion about people who come here to cheat and that is there are plenty of dating sites that offer that sort of service. This site is primarily aimed at swingers not people looking for love or people wanting to cheat. There has to be a line surely???????
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Look I'm sorry if this offends you or anyone else
I'm not, carry on Tracy-Jayne
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I for one am sick of reading post where these guys are being preached to about their morals
Well said :thumbup:
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but really is it any of your business anyway?
Quote by RedHot
This site is not intended to be a moral soapbox. If you don't agree with their posts, perhaps you could at least refrain from giving them your humble opinions of *their* lives and how they should be lead :roll:
Hatrick !
If people wanna lecture others on morals why don't they go down their local church and get in the pulpit :!:
Scandal I just look at the fundemental reason's for this site existing. The name says it all for me hun 'Swinging Heaven'. Swinging is about trust and total acceptance of your partner in a relationship, not about cheating on them? Surely you can see that?
Sex God
Quote by pinkbubble(mr&mrs)
Redhot I have an opinion about people who come here to cheat and that is there are plenty of dating sites that offer that sort of service. This site is primarily aimed at swingers not people looking for love or people wanting to cheat. There has to be a line surely???????
We can each draw our own line wheresoever we wish, but do we need to have other's opinions thrust down our throats at every given opportunity
: If you don't agree with married guys wanting to swing, don't meet them. Siimple really. :?
Silly me. I thought we were a tolerant lot on this site, but it seems it's become the Relate counseling service of late :roll:
Tracy-Jayne
Sex God
Hi and welcome to Swinging site is absolutely free to use for all liberated adults, swingers and doggers in the UK.
This taken from the front page of this web site. *All liberated adults*. Can't see where it says *but no married cheats*
T-J
I see three options here.
1. Leave the posts alone, and treat them like any other post which doesn`t meet personal criteria eg. ignore them
2. The site makes it a rule that Married men playing away can`t post.
3. People put up with reading the same repetitive topic which arises again and again whose main contributers are normally those who moan about the same repetitive topics arising again and again.
Disclaimer: No I haven`t bothered taking much note of the names in this thread, so it`s not necessarily directed at anyone on this thread. I`ve said my piece on this myself before I became bored with the topic. Also as sick as a dog, so I`m allowed to gripe period.
Venusxxx
1. Leave the posts alone, and treat them like any other post which doesn`t meet personal criteria eg. ignore them
2. The site makes it a rule that Married men playing away can`t post.
3. People put up with reading the same repetitive topic which arises again and again whose main contributers are normally those who moan about the same repetitive topics arising again and again.
Disclaimer: No I haven`t bothered taking much note of the names in this thread, so it`s not necessarily directed at anyone on this thread. I`ve said my piece on this myself before I became bored with the topic. Also as sick as a dog, so I`m allowed to gripe period.
Venusxxx
Quote by RedHot
Redhot I have an opinion about people who come here to cheat and that is there are plenty of dating sites that offer that sort of service. This site is primarily aimed at swingers not people looking for love or people wanting to cheat. There has to be a line surely???????
We can each draw our own line wheresoever we wish, but do we need to have other's opinions thrust down our throats at every given opportunity
: If you don't agree with married guys wanting to swing, don't meet them. Siimple really. :?
Silly me. I thought we were a tolerant lot on this site, but it seems it's become the Relate counseling service of late :roll:
Tracy-Jayne
Myself and Mrpink are completly tolerent and open minded. Liberated Adults???? Surely this only applies to people who are not cheating. Time after time we see post from individuals who are here for a 'quick fix' or 'a shag'. I don't particularly like getting into this, but at the end of the day swinging is not about cheating its about 2 people in a loving relationship exploring sexual boundaries with people outside of their relationship together. Its not about cheating. If there are people on this site who are happy about helping cheating then its their decision. I only try to point out the fundemental reason for Swinging Heaven existing.
Ruth
Sex God
Quote by pinkbubble(mr&mrs)
Myself and Mrpink are completly tolerent and open minded.
Ruth
Erm! Yeah ok then . . .
T-J
Sex God
WHOA WHOA WHOA!!!!
I have been watching this ping pong going on.......and i hate to see a couple of the people i like so much have the arguement...
i think what this really relies on is consent... or in this case "implied" consent.... if he said that he had consent from the wife and said something to the fact of "you can talk to her" we would not being having this conversation now....
we all read something in the way that someone writes something... in the way that it is written it "implies" that he doesn't consent...rightly or wrongly.....
i suppose if the wifes doesn't know then the person i feel sorry for most of all is her....
some people can play and not have that gulit... after all it is not them who is lying...
others with and will steer well clear of the entire situation knowing that they could be contribution to a situation.......
each to there own... agree to disagree....... and move on....
seanxxxxxxxxx
I have been watching this ping pong going on.......and i hate to see a couple of the people i like so much have the arguement...
i think what this really relies on is consent... or in this case "implied" consent.... if he said that he had consent from the wife and said something to the fact of "you can talk to her" we would not being having this conversation now....
we all read something in the way that someone writes something... in the way that it is written it "implies" that he doesn't consent...rightly or wrongly.....
i suppose if the wifes doesn't know then the person i feel sorry for most of all is her....
some people can play and not have that gulit... after all it is not them who is lying...
others with and will steer well clear of the entire situation knowing that they could be contribution to a situation.......
each to there own... agree to disagree....... and move on....
seanxxxxxxxxx
Quote by bloke
hi i am a 41 year old male looking to meet a lady aged 47-55, i live in essex and would prefer some one from the essex, london, or kent area.i am married so only interested in a nsa relationship. i am 5"9 tall medium build, i smoke. i am tactile and like to touch and be touched. if your interested get in touch my e-mail is hope to hear from you soon X
Bloke welcome to swinging heaven
I hope you find what you are looking for
Dawn :silly:
Sex God
you know what? i really try to refrain from commenting, i really do, but redhot! :worship: :worship:
i for one, and this is very much MHO mind, am heartily sick of seeing . . . .
newbies being castigated for a naive newbie post.
newbies being castigated for spelling mistakes.
newbies being castigated for being honest and declaring that they are in fact, OMFG, married.
newbies being castigated for not getting an "in joke" and possibly misreading it, and then being castigated all the more.
newbies being castigated for *insert any particular reason you happen not to like here*
i'd go so far as to say sometimes, looking at some of the lurkers in LMU who regularly pounce on posters, well it smacks of trolling. if a newbie posted something contentious to get a rise, we'd call it exactly that!
FFS if you don't like it just bloody ignore it! can you imagine how boring this site would be if only a certain kinda person conforming to a certain narrow mindset and lifestyle and moral codewere made welcome here? :roll: :roll:
look, we all know the world and his wife would have some pretty disparaging comments to make about our membership here wouldn't they? read any damn article in any damn newspaper, cos we are in fact all vile perverts who spread STD's and lead disgustingly amoral lives yeah? so for gods sake do you get just how damn annoying it can be to see the same people who despise that attitude, getting on their high horse and daring to judge others. well i'm sorry, but i'd rather see the honesty in the guys post there than what i can only see as judgmental hypocrisy from people who should know better.
you have a right to your life and your opinion, as does every other member here, but could you not just maybe ignore the stuff you don't like and find something you do like instead, and comment on that, instead of posting continual negative comments and sermonising? we do strive for tolerance OF EVERYONE'S LIFESTYLE here, whether it appeals to us or not, do we not, or have i got everything so badly wrong?
/flame off!
bloke,
:welcome: to SH! have fun!
neil
:worship: :worship:i for one, and this is very much MHO mind, am heartily sick of seeing . . . .
newbies being castigated for a naive newbie post.
newbies being castigated for spelling mistakes.
newbies being castigated for being honest and declaring that they are in fact, OMFG, married.
newbies being castigated for not getting an "in joke" and possibly misreading it, and then being castigated all the more.
newbies being castigated for *insert any particular reason you happen not to like here*
i'd go so far as to say sometimes, looking at some of the lurkers in LMU who regularly pounce on posters, well it smacks of trolling. if a newbie posted something contentious to get a rise, we'd call it exactly that!
FFS if you don't like it just bloody ignore it! can you imagine how boring this site would be if only a certain kinda person conforming to a certain narrow mindset and lifestyle and moral codewere made welcome here?
:roll: :roll: look, we all know the world and his wife would have some pretty disparaging comments to make about our membership here wouldn't they? read any damn article in any damn newspaper, cos we are in fact all vile perverts who spread STD's and lead disgustingly amoral lives yeah? so for gods sake do you get just how damn annoying it can be to see the same people who despise that attitude, getting on their high horse and daring to judge others. well i'm sorry, but i'd rather see the honesty in the guys post there than what i can only see as judgmental hypocrisy from people who should know better.
you have a right to your life and your opinion, as does every other member here, but could you not just maybe ignore the stuff you don't like and find something you do like instead, and comment on that, instead of posting continual negative comments and sermonising? we do strive for tolerance OF EVERYONE'S LIFESTYLE here, whether it appeals to us or not, do we not, or have i got everything so badly wrong?
/flame off!
bloke,
:welcome: to SH! have fun!
neil
Quote by kristof
ok, I keep stum if future
Kristof, I have noticed that you do have a tendancy to be one of the first to "welcome" Newbies, usually with words of advice that give the impression that you are representing the site (words such as we don't like people that do this, or this is how things are done here.) (Don't make me go through every one of your posts to find specific examples!!)
I accept that your intentions are good but you haven't even been a member here for a month yet and your views do not represent the site. The only people here that represent the site are the moderators. I seem to recall that you were a moderator on another site but please bear in mind that this is not that site.
I know you mean well but I feel we should nip this in the bud now. You are not the only person that does it, so if the cap fits - wear it!! :shock: :shock: :shock:
Master of Sex
i agree with redhot we should leave them alone,if they wanna cheat its up to them,im positive there are some people who have altiria motives on here.
how many single blokes on here have met couples hoping to just get into the female and just tolerating the male partner to get wat they want:
how many single blokes on here have met couples hoping to just get into the female and just tolerating the male partner to get wat they want
: Sex God
Quote by satin
how many single blokes on here have met couples hoping to just get into the female and just tolerating the male partner to get wat they want
Plenty of them probably, but if the blokes are straight that is what they want.
Anyways..... this thread is turning into a bit of a nightmare. Piss taking someone's one-line bullshit is one thing but totally ripping into someone when they are honest :? enough to admit they're married is another. Whatever you think about cheating, the fact is that plenty of people advertising on this site (male and female) are actually cheating in one way or another.
OK, as you were :? :? :? :?
Also the trend could prove to be self-defeating, for if faced with so much condemnation, how long will it take for married guys who play away from home to begin covering up to us? Just like the many others here who no doubt also feel like they are in the minority and keep thier heads down as a result?
Venusxxx
Venusxxx
Master of Sex
what if the the bloke PRETENDS to be bi?
surely thats even more underhand and slimy?
surely thats even more underhand and slimy?
Sex God
Quote by VenusnMars
Also the trend could prove to be self-defeating, for if faced with so much condemnation, how long will it take for married guys who play away from home to begin covering up to us? Just like the many others here who no doubt also feel like they are in the minority and keep thier heads down as a result?
Venusxxx
Good point. Surely the people who can't abide cheaters prefer to know who the cheaters are so they can choose not to swing with them? Slagging cheaters off every time they post is surely asking for them to lie?
Anyways, I never meant to reply to this thread
:roll: :roll: Like most men I first started browsing this site niavely thinking that it was a ticket for a quick shag. You only have to read some of the ads to realise what an easy mistake that is, particularly when your being led from the waist down. After a few weeks and reading the advice sections I decided to join the forum as a way of getting to know people. I didn't rush in with the usual "big dick, come and get it ladies" sort of post but thought it best to tread carefully, try and get my self known and maybe contribute to popular threads. "Not that I've got very much of interest to say".
I felt I wanted to ask the question regarding views on married men and swinging but was beaten to it by by another married man advertising himself. To say he got castrated would be an understatement, hence my reason for not paticipating on this forum.
The simple fact in my marriage is, I like sex, my wife doesn't. If I try to talk about it or force the issue, then according to her I'm the one who needs help. If I want to experiment, I'm a pervert. I've been married for 20 years and have 4 children. Apart from sex we have a very good relationship. I could do the ultimate selfish act and walk out like so many men do when they don't get what they want. After all there's plenty of room in the world for 4 more fatherless kids.
I always make a point of telling people I reply to that I am Married in the first paragraph so that they can bin it straight away without wasting they're time and have had some fantastic responses from people I have replied to.
Sorry if what I do offends anyone but I am old enough to understand and deal with the consequences. Ultimately I just want to make friends and anything else that happens is a bonus. I am not asking for people to condone what I do, just to be accepted as a person who can hopefully make valid contributions to this site.
I felt I wanted to ask the question regarding views on married men and swinging but was beaten to it by by another married man advertising himself. To say he got castrated would be an understatement, hence my reason for not paticipating on this forum.
The simple fact in my marriage is, I like sex, my wife doesn't. If I try to talk about it or force the issue, then according to her I'm the one who needs help. If I want to experiment, I'm a pervert. I've been married for 20 years and have 4 children. Apart from sex we have a very good relationship. I could do the ultimate selfish act and walk out like so many men do when they don't get what they want. After all there's plenty of room in the world for 4 more fatherless kids.
I always make a point of telling people I reply to that I am Married in the first paragraph so that they can bin it straight away without wasting they're time and have had some fantastic responses from people I have replied to.
Sorry if what I do offends anyone but I am old enough to understand and deal with the consequences. Ultimately I just want to make friends and anything else that happens is a bonus. I am not asking for people to condone what I do, just to be accepted as a person who can hopefully make valid contributions to this site.
Sex God
Quote by mrhappy
Like most men I first started browsing this site niavely thinking that it was a ticket for a quick shag. You only have to read some of the ads to realise what an easy mistake that is, particularly when your being led from the waist down. After a few weeks and reading the advice sections I decided to join the forum as a way of getting to know people. I didn't rush in with the usual "big dick, come and get it ladies" sort of post but thought it best to tread carefully, try and get my self known and maybe contribute to popular threads. "Not that I've got very much of interest to say".
I felt I wanted to ask the question regarding views on married men and swinging but was beaten to it by by another married man advertising himself. To say he got castrated would be an understatement, hence my reason for not paticipating on this forum.
The simple fact in my marriage is, I like sex, my wife doesn't. If I try to talk about it or force the issue, then according to her I'm the one who needs help. If I want to experiment, I'm a pervert. I've been married for 20 years and have 4 children. Apart from sex we have a very good relationship. I could do the ultimate selfish act and walk out like so many men do when they don't get what they want. After all there's plenty of room in the world for 4 more fatherless kids.
I always make a point of telling people I reply to that I am Married in the first paragraph so that they can bin it straight away without wasting they're time and have had some fantastic responses from people I have replied to.
Sorry if what I do offends anyone but I am old enough to understand and deal with the consequences. Ultimately I just want to make friends and anything else that happens is a bonus. I am not asking for people to condone what I do, just to be accepted as a person who can hopefully make valid contributions to this site.
Thank you for your honesty :thumbup:
Sex God
Quote by mrhappy
Like most men I first started browsing this site niavely thinking that it was a ticket for a quick shag. You only have to read some of the ads to realise what an easy mistake that is, particularly when your being led from the waist down. After a few weeks and reading the advice sections I decided to join the forum as a way of getting to know people. I didn't rush in with the usual "big dick, come and get it ladies" sort of post but thought it best to tread carefully, try and get my self known and maybe contribute to popular threads. "Not that I've got very much of interest to say".
I felt I wanted to ask the question regarding views on married men and swinging but was beaten to it by by another married man advertising himself. To say he got castrated would be an understatement, hence my reason for not paticipating on this forum.
The simple fact in my marriage is, I like sex, my wife doesn't. If I try to talk about it or force the issue, then according to her I'm the one who needs help. If I want to experiment, I'm a pervert. I've been married for 20 years and have 4 children. Apart from sex we have a very good relationship. I could do the ultimate selfish act and walk out like so many men do when they don't get what they want. After all there's plenty of room in the world for 4 more fatherless kids.
I always make a point of telling people I reply to that I am Married in the first paragraph so that they can bin it straight away without wasting they're time and have had some fantastic responses from people I have replied to.
Sorry if what I do offends anyone but I am old enough to understand and deal with the consequences. Ultimately I just want to make friends and anything else that happens is a bonus. I am not asking for people to condone what I do, just to be accepted as a person who can hopefully make valid contributions to this site.
Thank you for putting your point across so eloquently
Jon and I have met and swung with (gasp! horror!) several married men. Like yourself, they are in happy marriages in many different ways apart from the sexual side of things. In point of fact, one had just left us last night when I read this thread
Not one of them has ever lied to us about being married or tried to hide it from us and for that we applaude their honesty.
I have no worries about the fact that they have a wife, nor do I feel any guilt. Why should I? I'm not asking the guy to leave his wife and have an affair, which would ultimately be far more damaging to his marriage than could a couple of hours of sexual enjoyment with Jon and I
The guy we met with last nigh is not a member of this site, but has become a very very good friend to us. He has a loving family and a beautiful home. It's just that his wife no longer wishes to have sex.
She does not have a high sex drive to match his, but if this any reason for him to leave her? Of course not :shock: After all, sex is such a small part of an overall life together as a couple in the scheme of things :?
Live and let live I say, and if the sex with all married men is always as good as it was last night, I'll be sticking with them
:twisted: Tracy-Jayne
Sex God
I too have an public apology to make to Hagrid.
On his first thread I flew at him hammer and tong about not wanting to play with married folk. I started off a contentious and heated debate through my temper fueled explosion which actually had very little to do with the content of his post and more to do with my personal mood at the time. I then left everyone else to battle it out in public forum while I PMed Hagrid and offered an olive branch, which he graciously accepted.
Apologies to all the married folk I upset with that particular flame of mine and as Neil has quite rightly said, I have been around long enough to know better.
Each to their own and keep on being honest.
Gem. x
I echo the comments made above by 'the married man'.
I'm married, 21 years love my wife, 3 wonderful kids. Due to treatment my wife is undergoing for depression she gets absolutely no pleasure from sex. I love her and the kids to bits, she is devoted to me.
She however offers no meaningful sexual experience. This leaves me 2 choices prostitutes or play away. I avoid prosititutes purely because a fundemental part of sexual pleasure for me is GIVING.
I'm not proud of where I'm at, I don't need lectures from those that want to condemn my situation without understanding it.
I always disclose my marital status but rarely discuss the above as I'm not looking for a pity shag.
Those of you that are moralising so righteously, do me a favour, next time you see your mother, father, siblings tell them all "I enjoy kinky sex with strangers for fun" you'll soon discover how quickly it causes you problems.
We all lie, the starting point is all that differs.
I'm married, 21 years love my wife, 3 wonderful kids. Due to treatment my wife is undergoing for depression she gets absolutely no pleasure from sex. I love her and the kids to bits, she is devoted to me.
She however offers no meaningful sexual experience. This leaves me 2 choices prostitutes or play away. I avoid prosititutes purely because a fundemental part of sexual pleasure for me is GIVING.
I'm not proud of where I'm at, I don't need lectures from those that want to condemn my situation without understanding it.
I always disclose my marital status but rarely discuss the above as I'm not looking for a pity shag.
Those of you that are moralising so righteously, do me a favour, next time you see your mother, father, siblings tell them all "I enjoy kinky sex with strangers for fun" you'll soon discover how quickly it causes you problems.
We all lie, the starting point is all that differs.
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Those of you that are moralising so righteously, do me a favour, next time you see your mother, father, siblings tell them all "I enjoy kinky sex with strangers for fun" you'll soon discover how quickly it causes you problems.
Well said. It's about time that the "live and let live" attitude that we demand from society at large (see any thread with a newspaper in the title) was practised in these forums.
