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Quote by Angel Chat
I'm not sure where the problem started, but I think it would be unfair to ask the other site to move their camp when it's been advertised since the 4th of November last year ;)

Thats all well and good but as its a free country and they have the problem dunno
You assume it's all of themthat have a problem.
Quote by deancannock
It seems the other swingers site, depite being asked and saying fine orginally, now think it is a bad idea we are there.

Wonder where I got that idea from rolleyes
I aint on either list so it matters not to me but its a bit of a shit when a group of people cant organise a camping trip at a camp site(which I presume is a public site) because another site has a problem with it...
Quote by Mallock2006
I'm not sure where the problem started, but I think it would be unfair to ask the other site to move their camp when it's been advertised since the 4th of November last year ;)

Thats all well and good but as its a free country and they have the problem dunno
You assume it's all of themthat have a problem.
Quote by deancannock
It seems the other swingers site, depite being asked and saying fine orginally, now think it is a bad idea we are there.

Wonder where I got that idea from rolleyes
I aint on either list so it matters not to me but its a bit of a shit when a group of people cant organise a camping trip at a camp site(which I presume is a public site) because another site has a problem with it...
The way I understand it, a mod from the other site asked a question, which was answered satisfactorily. I think it's maybe one or more members from the site that have brought about the change in decision. If I'm mistaken and it's the site that have decided it's a bad idea, then I apologise. However, I don't think it's either admin or mods from the other site that have made this decision. Hopefully Dean will clear this up :dunno:
Quote by Angel Chat
The way I understand it, a mod from the other site asked a question, which was answered satisfactorily. I think it's maybe one or more members from the site that have brought about the change in decision. If I'm mistaken and it's the site that have decided it's a bad idea, then I apologise. However, I don't think it's either admin or mods from the other site that have made this decision. Hopefully Dean will clear this up dunno

That all made sense in my head... not sure it will now I've typed it out lol
Quote by Angel Chat
The way I understand it, a mod from the other site asked a question, which was answered satisfactorily. I think it's maybe one or more members from the site that have brought about the change in decision. If I'm mistaken and it's the site that have decided it's a bad idea, then I apologise. However, I don't think it's either admin or mods from the other site that have made this decision. Hopefully Dean will clear this up dunno

I dont know if its admin or mods who have put the mockers on it either and it doesnt really matter who has.......
Its still a poor show really......
No wonder there is bitterness amongst different sites when things like this happen...
Quote by Angel Chat

The way I understand it, a mod from the other site asked a question, which was answered satisfactorily. I think it's maybe one or more members from the site that have brought about the change in decision. If I'm mistaken and it's the site that have decided it's a bad idea, then I apologise. However, I don't think it's either admin or mods from the other site that have made this decision. Hopefully Dean will clear this up dunno

That all made sense in my head... not sure it will now I've typed it out lol
If it doesnt make sense to anyone else then we are both bonkers :lol2:
Quote by Mallock2006
If it doesnt make sense to anyone else then we are both bonkers :lol2:

Oi!! smackbottom Who you calling bonkers? :silly: :crazy: :crazy: :giggle:
I do understand what you meant about it being a shame the mockers have been put on it. As I said, I didn't want to get into an argument about it, so thank you for not turning it into one ;) I'm a Libra so I can see both sides of it. Part of me thinks it's a shame that we can't all socialise at camp together, but another part of me is glad that it won't be a huge (and therefore possibly out of control) event. It's a tough one, and I don't know what the answer is that would please everyone dunno
Quote by Angel Chat

If it doesnt make sense to anyone else then we are both bonkers :lol2:

Oi!! smackbottom Who you calling bonkers? :silly: :crazy: :crazy: :giggle:
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Quote by Angel Chat
I do understand what you meant about it being a shame the mockers have been put on it. As I said, I didn't want to get into an argument about it, so thank you for not turning it into one ;)

I wasnt looking for an argument either (A first for me you might say lol )
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Quote by Mallock2006
I wasnt looking for an argument either (A first for me you might say lol )
kiss

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I have no further comment to make
:giggle: :lol:
Quote by Angel Chat
I have no further comment to make

OK, I take that back, I do have a further comment to make lol
I asked the question over there, and have been assured that it was not a site decision because everyone is welcome at socials, including non members smile
I'm thinking that perhaps some of the confusion has arisen because of this post (quoted with permission of the original poster)
Quote by Serendipity
I have a slight worry (as a non camper :lol: )
There's a marked difference between SH Munch Rules and Social rules - are you able to reconcile those?
As an example (from SH Munch rules):
We have a strict rule that anyone organising a Munch on here is doing so solely for current and active Swinging Heaven members, and is not promoting, colluding or otherwise involving any other website, club or group.
Our social rules are very relaxed, non members are welcome, organisers have a lot of discretion in how to run the event and Swingcamp is well established in that respect so having a group within the group doesn't fall foul of our rules - if you haven't already, maybe check with SH Mods/Admin that you're not breaching any SH munch rules.
Hopefully it shouldn't be an issue but better to know for sure! :)

but as Dean had already checked with admin here, that wasn't a problem.
As I said, I don't know why things have changed now, I just don't like it when other sites are bitched about (no matter where I am at the time) - especially when it's not actually "the site" that are to blame ;)
angel,
its not the serendipity comment at all.....that was easily cleared as before posting i had checked with admin on here and also dino on other site. Don't really want to get to much into it...but the numbers going was a concern...although i think that could have been cleared easily by having ajoining fields.. there were other concerns which to be honest i am more pee'ved about...as said don't want a slanging match,....and it was never my intention to cause trouble and so i'm moving venue.
Quote by Angel Chat
but as Dean had already checked with admin here, that wasn't a problem.
As I said, I don't know why things have changed now, I just don't like it when other sites are bitched about (no matter where I am at the time) - especially when it's not actually "the site" that are to blame ;)

I agree, other sites are not to blame, it certain members (no matter which site they have preference of using) who have some how forgot that we are all apart of the swinging community.
It's a shame when these things happen and "politics" get in the way of us all having a good time.
If members (from this site or others) suddenly have a problem with what was once happily agreed on, then they should simply not go. I know i wouldnt be happy going to something i didnt agree on!
Though i can also see Dean's logic. Since he is organiser on this site for the members of swinging heaven he has a responsiblity that all members are safe and have a good time. With the current situation they is no confirmation that the above may or maynot happen. I for one can't imagine having a lovely welcome after witnessing some of the verbal exchanges between members (from this site and others).
It's such a shame after the last two swing camps were such a success. I hope members from all sites don't feel put off and still go (whether on different dates or not) as from past experience it was a great time!
not often i post
so here goes
its not about site politics its purely numbers as I see it
the site in question and i mean the camp site has a no groups rule, that came into force after our last camp which was massive.
my concern and that is what ive asked others about is
if we are tryng to split up and make it look like its not a group camping
how on earth are we gonna fit another 80 - 100 people into it??? it just wouldnt work
yes I would love to atttend a mids room camp but I will be honest would prefer another date.
then its purely a mids room occasion.
that was my point of view
Vicky
as said there there a number of concerns.....numbers being one of them... but whatever i have agreed to change so lets all put it behind us and learn from our experiances.
so many m8ts down gora try and get to this xxxx if only 4 one night
I am going to hold my hands up as one of the people on the 'other' site who voiced concern.
First of all ALL parties were not asked if this merging was ok at all. Only the organiser was.
Secondly - the issue was not at all about any of you guys coming - our concern was the huge supergroup that appeared to be forming. Seperate fields with a communal area would have been fantastic
Thirdly WHY THE HELL should we move our weekend???? Swingcamp has been a SS and now a SF event for three times in a row now - why the hell should we give it up so someone else can jump on it???
I don't believe anyone asked you to move the venue Dean - I think you are overreacting to the whole thing AND making us look bad in the process.
Chaotic - I see what you are saying about people having a problem with what was happily agreed on then they shouldn't go - but it was only ever 'happily agreed on' with the organiser - none of the participants were consulted first on changing the event.
But all of the above is just my opinion (as I said, as one of the few who voiced concerns)and I STILL don't see why Dean has moved the venue - No one asked him to just to clear that up.
*Her*
Well hello as you are looking for a new site for us all to have a great weekend Dean do you think it possible we can have a caravan / camping week-end as a few of us have already got caravans and reading through posts theres a few more that will join us if they can bring there caravans too as like us most have already booked time off work so that would be better all round we thinks but then its only our suggestion ok thanx hope to here from you soon cock.
couplefunuk..... i am not over reacting at all.. indeed i have asked that we move on .. you wil find that with conversation and Pm's with dino..it was agreed that it was the best way. Also please note at no time have i ever asked you to change your date... now please can we just move on
deano if the date changes so it doesnt coincide with the sf do, can you put our names down, we would love to join the fab folk of the mids room, if just the venue changes then im afraid we have a prior engagement, as you know,
love ya all
wrats
xx
Dean
Not sure I care about the politics here but lets not let it affect a great weekend. Maybe you could start a new thread with the new date ?????????????????? Just looking forward to a nice weekend with a few fellow members in a very social way. Well done for the work you have done up till now by the way!!!!!!!
Just like to say, sorry it all had to end up as it has.
We agreed to a joint social and maybe naively didnt think about what might happen and the problems that could arise, we both recieved pm`s and concerns were voiced and me and Dean did our best to sort these things out, but it became icreasingly obvious that things were going wrong.
The S/S S/F site admin had nothing to do with the problem, it was individuals concerns, some justifiable imho.
The size of the social on a non group campsite was one issue,
The worry from certain members, in particular single fems,camping with people they dont know or interact with on a forum was another.
Closing the list when the numbers reach a certain figure is not an option, i cant ask Dean to close his list because its getting to big and v/verca.
Its a shame its come to this and for that im truely sorry,but whats done is done, lets not turn Deans thread into an ugly slanging match.
I wish you all the best with your social Dean and hope you all have a fantastic camp.
Dino wink
i suppose i'm just going to have to suffer with the dilemma of picking which set of friends i wish to go with, which is an uncomrfortable position but i would like to make known to everyone as a whole, that whichever event i do choose to attend it is not a personal attack to the other.
sorry i dont usually post but i think we all forgetting this is suppose to be a fun weekend who gives a dam bout politics and i can see the numbers can get out of hand which cud be an issue but im sure we are all adults so wot ever dean wants to go with we are cool with come on folks lighten up
Dean we just wanna thank you for all the work you have done we still wanna come and hope this can all be sorted amocably thanks mate for all your efforts pete n ali xxxxxx
thanks for all the suport it is appreciated.... i have a couple of in at the moment with sites and just waiting to see if anything comes of it.... one way or another we wil find somewhere...
Hope you manage to sort something as it will be a shame to cancel it altogether..
Quote by stuartrossy1
Dean mate do you have a headache yet ?? lol
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apart from that if it goes belly up we can camp in Wrats's Garden they have a mansion do'nt they lol ????
Sory Wrats just kidding xxx

wouldnt be the first time
wrats
xx
Quote by wild rose and the stag
Dean mate do you have a headache yet ?? lol
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apart from that if it goes belly up we can camp in Wrats's Garden they have a mansion do'nt they lol ????
Sory Wrats just kidding xxx

wouldnt be the first time
wrats
xx
Oh Memories!
Deano mate, smile
Have to re-iterate that mine and Vicky's main concern was about the numbers attending, and how the camp-site would view this.
Now the decisions have been made, we hope everyone moves on (as is your wish!) and can look forward to one or even two brilliant weekends away with friends.
If its the date you decide to change, then myself and Vicky would love to attend the Deancannock Camping Extravaganza lol - but we'll be more than 3 metres away from your tent this time :lol: :lol:
Bazza, Vicky and Campdog cool
Hiya Dean any news yet x x x
hey dean
sorry to hear you've had some probs...
let us know the new date/venue when sorted.
keep up the good work matey!