At what age are you classed as elderly?? Is there such a word? How would you like to be referred to in your 'mature' years... and the question I need to answer is.. "Describe an elderly person?"...

Quote by insane1
I will define myself as 'old' when I am unable to muster the energy to go swinging.
So maybe aged 70 or 80+ I may sit down with my knitting needles and knit wolley crutchless knickers for swingers rather than run around the clubs and parties with my thongs, waving them above my head and shouting NEXT.
I was no help really was I !!!
Quote by Lissa
Hmmmm, difficult question.
My step-father is in his 70's, but doesn't look or act old. Other people the same age as him definitely seem 'elderly', as do some younger than he is.
I suppose retirement is the benchmark to some degree. Once you reach compulsory retirement age it seems society is saying 'you are now too old to be productive any more'
It's not something I have ever really thought about, but looking at the question now I think 80 is probably the age at which I personally would consider someone to be 'elderly'.
Quote by insane1
I will define myself as 'old' when I am unable to muster the energy to go swinging.
So maybe aged 70 or 80+ I may sit down with my knitting needles and knit wolley crutchless knickers for swingers rather than run around the clubs and parties with my thongs, waving them above my head and shouting NEXT.
I was no help really was I !!!
As recently as the 1980s, first-time mums over 30 were often referred to as 'geriatric mothers'. These days most health authorities consider you old if you're having your first child at 37 or older. They tend to use less insulting words, but you may still encounter the term 'elderly prima gravida' meaning older first-time mum.
Quote by keeno
There are several tell tale signs for when someone has become elderly/old/older
1. The second thing they tell you is their age "I'm 83 you now."
2. They wear a coat in the summer
3. The women wear 'hairy' hats (don't know the name of the material)
4. The men wear ties on the outside of v-necked jumpers.
5. The men have more hair up their nose or in their ears than on their heads.
I'm sure there are more and I will return when I remember them (ooo senior moment :shock: )
Quote by HornyBear
As one of the older members of SH may I suggest that 'Ageism' takes many forms. People who express 'age in the range of...' in their profiles is a classic for example. They are setting an arbitrary pair of numbers and may well be missing out on some very interesting and sexy people either side of those numbers. Why have they chosen those two particular numbers? I guess what I am trying to say to you Jaymar by way of help is 'Ageism' isn't necessarily the same as 'old discrimination'. Now your Thesis may be to do with older (or elderly!!) people but maybe you should also consider the potential problems of 'young discrimination'. I would suggest that as your Degree is about social health care there is a clue there. Maybe its more to do with people becoming infirm or less mobile as they get older (which is is non age specific).
Is someone saying they are 'not comfortable' playing with someone older or younger than themselves being Ageist in the same way those setting age limits (as above)?
I have a very dear friend I have been chatting to for a very long time on here and it is a running joke that while she thinks I am 'quite cute' (me ffs!) I am ' too old' to shag. We have had many a laugh over this but it raises another angle. For example I have met some pretty unattractive, boring 30+ and some downright sexy and interesting 60+ ladies so where does that leave the importance of age in swinging. I have found I simply cannot share a common sense of humour with many 20+ people so I doubt I will ever have the chance of meeting one. Is that me being Ageist? I always look to see if the person is at least interesting to chat with (hence I guess over 90% of my meets are generated from chatrooms / forum) and take it from there. Surely its the person that counts not their reference number.
Lissa makes the point well by saying her stefather is in his 70s but doesn't look or act it while others of the same age do. But is there a template for how a 70 year old should act? My kids are forever telling me to 'grow up Dad' or 'act your age not ours' but I can't help it because I am who I am inside. Can't help the exterior too much although I do take care of 'me' as best I can!
I sympathise with Keeno as even government get it wrong. I project managed the IT and training needed for the issue of new generation bus passes when legislation changed some years ago. The Law said 'of pensionable age'. Fair enough until someone later realised men and women get their pension 5 years apart. So now its everyone aged 60! DOH!
Lst point: if you fancied someone at a club / party / social and got chatting and after an hour with you getting the right hots for this person it came out they were 20 years older than you thought would you still shag them?
Quote by keeno
There are several tell tale signs for when someone has become elderly/old/older
1. The second thing they tell you is their age "I'm 83 you now."
2. They wear a coat in the summer
3. The women wear 'hairy' hats (don't know the name of the material)
4. The men wear ties on the outside of v-necked jumpers.
5. The men have more hair up their nose or in their ears than on their heads.
I'm sure there are more and I will return when I remember them (ooo senior moment :shock: )
Quote by little gem
I think thats the key.... age and ageism is always from the point you are at at the time.
I.e. a 10 year old will see a 20 year old as reaaaaallly reaaaallly old because it's twice their age, when in fact it's only a ten year difference.
Apply the same ten year gap between say a 48 year old and a 58 year old and the difference might not be so hugely apparent because the rate of development has slowed down.
Quote by mazalli
Hi, I'm new here so hope you don't mind me butting in.
I was interested to read all the posts about this because it's something I've had a lot of involvement in recently. I work in HR and one of the things we have had to do is to take note of the new age discrimination law which came into force in October this year.
As far as working arrangements are concerned employees now have the statutory right to request working beyond the statutory retirement age and we
might be of interest to some.
Outside work, I guess you're only as old as you feel!]
:smile2:
Quote by corriefem
The word 'elderly' brings to mind frail, needy, dependent and I hate all of these labels as I think we are just getting into a world where ageism is seen as something to be scorned upon.
Mum is around late 60s and she is no shape or form elderley though I think some people have the idea still if you are over 55 you are 'elderly'. :shock: :shock: :shock:
Sure it helps in the health service to label things but as people are living longer and working longer its difficult to know what is really elderly
The only one I know is that you get certain benefits over the age of 80
Quote by jaymar
I'm doing a degree in social health care and one of my social 'problems' is Ageism... I'm sitting trying to get this all in context and wonder if anyone can help??
At what age are you classed as elderly?? Is there such a word? How would you like to be referred to in your 'mature' years... and the question I need to answer is.. "Describe an elderly person?"...
Evidence from the General Household Survery has, since the start of the 1990's shown that about 60 per cent of all people over the age of 65 suffer from some sort of chronic illness or disability
Quote by couple_ne2000
I'm doing a degree in social health care and one of my social 'problems' is Ageism... I'm sitting trying to get this all in context and wonder if anyone can help??
At what age are you classed as elderly?? Is there such a word? How would you like to be referred to in your 'mature' years... and the question I need to answer is.. "Describe an elderly person?"...
Evidence from the General Household Survery has, since the start of the 1990's shown that about 60 per cent of all people over the age of 65 suffer from some sort of chronic illness or disability
Quote by laterunner
Great to see some really intellegent replies on this one; I frequently suffer the 'wrinkly syndrome' when adding in the contact columns yet sometimes swing with some friends, she 68, he 65 and they both shag like rabbits! And if you find big bellies a problem, just pop into my local Wetherspoons and look at some of the paunches on 20-something lads....! Perhaps attitude is the key, from we oldies ourselves to those who attach the labels. As for myself, I will admit to being old when my willie no longer carries out it's designed function...you may then shoot me!! Cheers, Guys.