amendment to post

20 Jul 2005

sorry mods(esp jags) please accept this amendment to my post, replacing a certain austrian painter, who (allegedly)caused the deaths of millions in an act of aggression that (allegedly) took place in the earlier part of the last century,(remembering a certain episode of fawlty towers),with somebody like,,hmmm papa doc duvalier,stalin perhaps,ferdind marcos or maybe a certain mr saddam summatorother,,was only trying to express a point where it seemed valid to the subject (ie silly

eople who want to take your freedom away) the choice of oppressor is optional!!
P.S. ever wondered where the idea for goodwins law came from and who's purpose it serves?
think on!!

20 Jul 2005

Its interesting to find out what people did before they become notorious.
I reckon saddam was a childrens book illustrator, possibly a plumber.

20 Jul 2005

And Adolf was a private 1st class in the Austrian Army. That is why my mother cried when I became a seaman 1st class because she thought I might start a war.

20 Jul 2005

Adolf was also an author and wrote a few novels.

20 Jul 2005

Goodwin's law is explained here:
link deleted cos of threat of Trojan Horse virus
and even more here:

20 Jul 2005

Godwin's Law (Goodwin is a bastardization of the name) is invoked for very good reasons.
If I hadn't invoked Godwin's Law then the lovely MikeNorth would have PMd me to death!
lol

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Finding the "meme" of Nazi comparisons on Usenet both illogical and offensive, Godwin established the law as a "counter-meme," a term Godwin expressly uses in his 1994 article about Godwin's Law (see external link below). The law's memetic function is not to end discussions (or even to classify them as "old"), but to make participants in a discussion more aware of whether a comparison to Nazis or Hitler is appropriate, or is simply a rhetorical overreach.
Many people have extended Godwin's law to imply that the invoking of the Nazis as a debating tactic (in any argument not directly related to World War II or the Holocaust) automatically loses the argument, simply because the nature of these events is such that any comparison to any event less serious than genocide, ethnic cleansing or extinction is invalid and in poor taste.

20 Jul 2005

Quote by Z3D
sorry mods(esp jags) please accept this amendment to my post, replacing a certain austrian painter, who (allegedly)caused the deaths of millions in an act of aggression that (allegedly) took place in the earlier part of the last century,(remembering a certain episode of fawlty towers),with somebody like,,hmmm papa doc duvalier,stalin perhaps,ferdind marcos or maybe a certain mr saddam summatorother,,was only trying to express a point where it seemed valid to the subject (ieeople who want to take your freedom away) the choice of oppressor is optional!!
P.S. ever wondered where the idea for goodwins law came from and who's purpose it serves?
think on!!

Now that's just making a stupid point... no-one is denying what Adolf Hitler and his men did and that wasn't the point of Godwin's Law. Now if you want to debate with me then at least do it sensibly. I LOVE a good debate.
lol

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20 Jul 2005

Just a note - that Tripod "Goodwins Law" site hides a pop-up, in which is hidden a Trojan Horse virus that just nearly kebabed my system lol.
Avoid!

20 Jul 2005

Quote by 3someinpreston
Just a note - that Tripod "Goodwins Law" site hides a pop-up, in which is hidden a Trojan Horse virus that just nearly kebabed my system lol.
Avoid!

Oh! I didn't get that a Trojan... but will delete the link anyway. Thanks for that warning.
You can stop pop-ups somehow... not that I can tell you I don't understand how, just my PC is set to block pop-ups unless I allow them.
*goes off to remove link*

20 Jul 2005

I have seen those references to goodwins (or godwins) law before and will no doubt see them again but have you ever looked deeper than the two links you have just posted the goodwin principle is promoted and was originally conceived by members of an organisation that promotes race hate,religious hate and bigotry against all things non-aryan and heterosexual, and currently these pleasant people are jumping on the resurgence of pagan beliefs to bolster their ranks...don't believe me? just try searching for odinism or stormfront on google,as a practicioner of the old norse faith,and an active member of the anti nazi league for 25 years, it opened my eyes,,the theory being if it doesn't get mentioned as much we'll all forget about it,,this is also one of the organisations that tried to say the holocaust never happened,,,so 'remember basil,,,don't mention the war' and also pray tell if we can't compare tyrants and despots etc to 'that chappy with the funny moustache' then who exactly can we compare them to,(in a worst case scenario styley)?
P.S. please don't search for the above items if you have any faith in this planet having a future,because if that lot ever get any power then we're all in trouble!!

20 Jul 2005

Quote by Z3D
this is also one of the organisations that tried to say the holocaust never happened,,,so 'remember basil,,,don't mention the war'

Errrm, yes but didn't Basil utter that just after he'd mentioned the war ad nauseam and while he was concussed? Poor association methinks.
Wow, what a lot of 'don't touch it' conspiracy theory here!

20 Jul 2005

Being an 'anti nazi' logically requires the existence of nazis. Who are therefore essential to an 'anti nazi' they all part of the same continuum?

20 Jul 2005

Not really. I could declare myself to be "Anti-Nofushiaenium" - doesn't mean Nofushiaenium exists... if it did, however, it should be a type of plant lol
The theory alone has to exist thats all.

20 Jul 2005

currently,I refuse to register my mobile phone,,my internet account is not in my name,I do not hold any store cards or credit cards,I do not use internet banking or any internet pay-service,my phone is ex-directory,I try to keep within the law and live an honorable life,,I have fought for queen and country, and still would if it came down to it,,(but I wouldn't lift a finger for a politician,(well maybe one particular finger)!) and it just seems to me that the british people in general seem to have a short memory and a certain amount of disrespect for the freedoms our forefathers fought for over the last century,,is all that irrelevant? does no-one remember adolf whassisname? it makes me sick that so many are prepared to roll over and and take whatever the man in the suit thrusts at them..well not me chummy if they come to try and make me have an id card they had better come armed!!!
icon_ umm, is not the fact that you are free to opt out of all these things an indication of just how much freedom you are enjoying?
Have you not understood that the most important freedom in the freedom of choice - and that by exercising that choice, you have totally refuted your own argument?
lhk
Kat
P.S.
But not the freedom to answer a question posted by a mod after a thread was locked by another mod!
wink

20 Jul 2005

Quote by duncanlondon
Being an 'anti nazi' logically requires the existence of nazis. Who are therefore essential to an 'anti nazi' they all part of the same continuum?

I disagree, being an anti-nazi only requires the existence of the idea of nazi (or more general fascist, white supremacist, and other extremist) ideologies. The presence of nazis in our society (fortunately one less as of 08:15 yesterday morning) is what requires people to be active anti-nazis.