It`s supposed to be something like one in 6 adults (?) within their lifetime, possibly more, I forget. So if six of you in a row vote `no`, it simply means you haven`t had it yet! :mrgreen:
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Ahhhh, but if I had had a mental illness in the past and it hadn't been diagnosed as such, how would I know?
I didn`t make it diagnosis only because many people don`t get as far as a doctor. I think there will be enough people awareof past or current issues with depression (for example) to make the poll worthwhile. Was trying to keep it simple. Last time I did a more complex poll I stuffed it right up! :lol2:
Venusxxx
Quote by Scandal
Hmmmm not really sure about this Venus if it's a serious thread. :shock:
A close friend had some serious problems a few years back and it was a horrible experience to see what they went through.
On a lighter note it reminds me of the OFAH episode where Del Boy goes the Doc and he asks him if he smokes, he says yes, then the Doc says, drink and he says oh yes that's nice of you I'll have a large scotch:lol:
Venus why can't you just do posts like the Funk:
"Hey, what colour is everyone's wallpaper?" :lol: :lol:
It`s a serious thread
There`s a great deal of stigma attached still. I thought it`d be a good idea for people to see just how many people they are attaching a stigma to! Not that I am accusing any particular individual of doing this, but you can bet your last dollar with the number of people here there will be a few!
butters999999:
I have three times once after my mother died once after my father died and once after I was told I had cancer. The once after my mother died was the worst I had a breakdown. The others were mainly panic attacks.
Everyone handles things differently
If you beat anxiety/depression three times, I`d say that speaks volumes about your strength.
Venusxxx
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Currently suffering 
Quote by Scandal
It`s a serious thread
Ok sorry Venus, I certainly wasn't trying to cultivate any stigma, just a little taken aback.
Actually it didn`t occur to me for one minute that you were! I just assumed you were genuinely confused as to where I was coming from on this given the diversity of the bollox I usually spread around the board! :mrgreen:Venusxxx
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It does make me feel better knowing others are going through it (not that I would actually wish it on anyone). Since suffering I've become a lot more knowledgable about the subject and once you know all the information, its a lot easier to deal with iykwim.
I'm just particularly struggling at the moment because the medication that was helping me, I can't take during pregnancy so am living without.
I'm just particularly struggling at the moment because the medication that was helping me, I can't take during pregnancy so am living without.
Warming the Bed
would clinical depression be counted as a mental illness?
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Quote by darkniven
would clinical depression be counted as a mental illness?
short answer, yup! ;)
n x x ;)
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I apologise for my earlier flippancy.
the answer is yes .after my son had beaten cancer i had a bit of a breakdown, actually it was a lot of a breakdown but I m recovered now
Now don`t be getting paranoid everyone! If you didn`t laugh you`d cry! Flippancy has it`s place, as long as the acceptance is there too!
Me- breakdown three years ago, diagnosed with agrophobia, severe depression, and social anxiety, on meds for a year, very intense counselling. All better now, and making up for lost time due to carrying a lifetime`s worth of unrecognised behavioural issues.
Xxdevil69...bummer.
Venusxxx
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Quote by darkniven
would clinical depression be counted as a mental illness?
Yes, if you have been prescribed and taken a course of anti-depressants you are officially reagrded as having had a mental illness, and this must be declared on (e.g.) insurance application forms.
Some of us discussed in greater detail the topic of this thread a while back:
http://www.swingingheaven.co.uk/swingers-forum/viewtopic/20032.html
Mike.
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long answer now!
when we've had depression threads before, i was a bit taken aback how many contributed. now in the grand scheme of things, it was actually very few out of the whole membership, but still seemed a lot.
soooo . . . i wondered, is there anything about deep emotional things like depression, that links with deep emotional things like swinging, or would any forum have a similiar number of sufferers onboard , regardless of the subject matter?
neil x x x ;0
when we've had depression threads before, i was a bit taken aback how many contributed. now in the grand scheme of things, it was actually very few out of the whole membership, but still seemed a lot.
soooo . . . i wondered, is there anything about deep emotional things like depression, that links with deep emotional things like swinging, or would any forum have a similiar number of sufferers onboard , regardless of the subject matter?
neil x x x ;0
Someone very close to me has had Post Traumatic Stress Disorder for the past 4 years, They have found it very diffficult to live with, and indeed their marriage broke up because of it. People often think you only get PTSD from fighting in the wars etc, sadly no. This was triggered by a series of events i.e physical trauma, and mental shock. They will recover. But it will be a long process. It helped a great deal, to have the feelings labled instead if thinking she was going mad!! which of course she wasn't. But to know that she wasn't the only person tn the world to be going through it also helped.
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I'm just particularly struggling at the moment because the medication that was helping me, I can't take during pregnancy so am living without.
The main thing at the moment is what’s best for the baby; just make sure your getting lots of support from family and friends. I know they can never truly know what you are going though but they do love you and want to help and look after you so let them.
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long answer now!
when we've had depression threads before, i was a bit taken aback how many contributed. now in the grand scheme of things, it was actually very few out of the whole membership, but still seemed a lot.
soooo . . . i wondered, is there anything about deep emotional things like depression, that links with deep emotional things like swinging, or would any forum have a similiar number of sufferers onboard , regardless of the subject matter?
neil x x x ;0
Good question. I`m not sure really, I do know that although noone is immune to the disease, it is a popular opinion that quite often it`s the deep thinkers who succumb more often, whether this has ever been proven I don`t know, but I do know it`s the more profound side of swinging which appeals to me as it does to many others here. What I don`tdo, is use swinging as some desperate unfulfilled desire to be loved
...which would be the `cliche` reaction of some!Venusxxx
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Someone very close to me has had Post Traumatic Stress Disorder for the past 4 years, They have found it very diffficult to live with, and indeed their marriage broke up because of it. People often think you only get PTSD from fighting in the wars etc, sadly no. This was triggered by a series of events i.e physical trauma, and mental shock. They will recover. But it will be a long process. It helped a great deal, to have the feelings labled instead if thinking she was going mad!! which of course she wasn't. But to know that she wasn't the only person tn the world to be going through it also helped.
My counseller suggested I had a touch of PTSD due to being constantly bullied as a child at school. I recognised a great many of my behaviours stemmed from this, but hadn`t actually understood the definition of `triggers`..and had quite a few of em! It`s very fascinating looking back at it all now I am out the otherside.
Venusxxx
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I'm another Yes, I was prescribed anti-depressants to help when I was trying to deal with the conflict of working nights in a job with a lot of responsibilities with the problems of having a young child. Dealt with it in the end by quiting my job and concentrating on my family.
As far as the reason for it being 2 out of 3 people on here rather than 1 in 6 I'm not sure. I have two suggestions, it could be that people just feel comfortable discussing it on here as it is an accepting site, or it could be that people who have had problems and dealt with them or are dealing with them are more able to consider alternative lifestyles.
Roger the Dragon.
As far as the reason for it being 2 out of 3 people on here rather than 1 in 6 I'm not sure. I have two suggestions, it could be that people just feel comfortable discussing it on here as it is an accepting site, or it could be that people who have had problems and dealt with them or are dealing with them are more able to consider alternative lifestyles.
Roger the Dragon.
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Someone very close to me has had Post Traumatic Stress Disorder for the past 4 years, They have found it very diffficult to live with, and indeed their marriage broke up because of it. People often think you only get PTSD from fighting in the wars etc, sadly no. This was triggered by a series of events i.e physical trauma, and mental shock. They will recover. But it will be a long process. It helped a great deal, to have the feelings labled instead if thinking she was going mad!! which of course she wasn't. But to know that she wasn't the only person tn the world to be going through it also helped.
My counseller suggested I had a touch of PTSD due to being constantly bullied as a child at school. I recognised a great many of my behaviours stemmed from this, but hadn`t actually understood the definition of `triggers`..and had quite a few of em! It`s very fascinating looking back at it all now I am out the otherside.
Venusxxx
The "triggers" can be very difficult to deal with, indeed to even know what they are. Sometimes you can be triggered in to a panic attack by something totaly random. Such as a smell, or a perticular colour, that they had experianced at the time and not even realised
Members of the family can find it dificult to deal with as well. It can be difficult to live with someone who has flash backs, feeling out of control having nightmares, feeling as though they are reliving the traumatic events over and over.
She is now starting a course of treatment called Cognitive-Behavioral Therapy. Hopfuly this will help turn the negative thoughts and pain into positive ones.
I think it might have a great deal to do with the fact those who have experianced it first or second-hand are just more likely to be interested in the topic Roger, but still, I think the amount of people who are comfortable to admit it since the thread has been here is encouraging. Personally, I am just as comfortable posting on this thread as I was the `have you ever broken anything` thread. I`d like to see a day everyone can feel that relaxed about it, but given the ignorance which is still rife out there, it is certainly something I wouldn`t have wanted to expose myself to during my illness, so kudos to those who have been able to post about it, especially those with current issues. 
Venusxxx
Venusxxx
Dont know where to begin with this post...
I've just come out of (what I think as been) one of the hardest parts of my life so far...even more so of when my father died.
My job entails me to go away everyweek on a course to get promoted, but I screwed up a bit and got a training extension, in other words bloody backclassed(no im not at school, Im 34!!)..
The place where I attend this course isnt the nicest place on earth and so that got to me a fair bit, the thought of leaving my wife and child every Monday morning started to piss me off , after this course finishes I was die to do an extremely demanding, both physicaly and mentally, two week course in man management, that was also taking its toll on me(just the thought of it), and to top things of we were due to move house up north(close to where were from origanaly), I found meself just breaking down in tears for no reason whatsoever
So over recent weeks youve seen me about in the forum,as Ive been off work suffering stress, of which the "quack" told me is totally differant to depression of which is more of an illness.
I wouldnt wish it on anyone what Ive been going through over the last month or 2 and youve probably thought from my occasional out bursts in the forum ie calling folk patronising etc that I was a complete "nutter" for want of a better word,but I can assure you im not.
Anyway I'm feeling alot better within myself now, Im starting to think straight again and just remember if things are getting on top just talk to someone, a problem shared is a problem halfed.
I feel better again for that, even though my fingers are sore from writting this!!!!
I've just come out of (what I think as been) one of the hardest parts of my life so far...even more so of when my father died.
My job entails me to go away everyweek on a course to get promoted, but I screwed up a bit and got a training extension, in other words bloody backclassed(no im not at school, Im 34!!)..
The place where I attend this course isnt the nicest place on earth and so that got to me a fair bit, the thought of leaving my wife and child every Monday morning started to piss me off , after this course finishes I was die to do an extremely demanding, both physicaly and mentally, two week course in man management, that was also taking its toll on me(just the thought of it), and to top things of we were due to move house up north(close to where were from origanaly), I found meself just breaking down in tears for no reason whatsoever
So over recent weeks youve seen me about in the forum,as Ive been off work suffering stress, of which the "quack" told me is totally differant to depression of which is more of an illness.
I wouldnt wish it on anyone what Ive been going through over the last month or 2 and youve probably thought from my occasional out bursts in the forum ie calling folk patronising etc that I was a complete "nutter" for want of a better word,but I can assure you im not.
Anyway I'm feeling alot better within myself now, Im starting to think straight again and just remember if things are getting on top just talk to someone, a problem shared is a problem halfed.
I feel better again for that, even though my fingers are sore from writting this!!!!
((((Ant)))) You can call me an intellectual snob anytime you like hun 
I hope things improve for you really soon :rose:
Vix, as far as I know, Bipolar is for life, and quite often genetic. It`s treatable, and does come with highs as well as lows though, but I expect you already knew that. :rose:
Venusxxx
I hope things improve for you really soon :rose:
Vix, as far as I know, Bipolar is for life, and quite often genetic. It`s treatable, and does come with highs as well as lows though, but I expect you already knew that. :rose:
Venusxxx
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Good question. I`m not sure really, I do know that although noone is immune to the disease, it is a popular opinion that quite often it`s the deep thinkers who succumb more often, whether this has ever been proven I don`t know, but I do know it`s the more profound side of swinging which appeals to me as it does to many others here. What I don`t do, is use swinging as some desperate unfulfilled desire to be loved
I've often wondered about whether some people who are suffering with other problems, perhaps tend to use swinging as a way of addressing some sort of deep seated need. Two ladies, with whom I have separately had some fun over the past year, have both suffered some sort of nervous breakdown (and no I don't think meeting was the cause :roll:
). Each seemed to be under a lot of pressure, & seeing more & more men up until the point at which their lives "crashed". I have wondered whether this could be categorised as some sort of self-abuse.It was a real shame for both, as I got to know each separately via MSN over a period of time, & they were both lovely people. From a selfish point of view, it was very frustrating as they were not just good friends of mine, but great fucks as well!!!!!
Sex God
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soooo . . . i wondered, is there anything about deep emotional things like depression, that links with deep emotional things like swinging, or would any forum have a similiar number of sufferers onboard , regardless of the subject matter?
neil x x x ;0
This would be impossible to ascertain statistically, but I have the impression of having encountered a slightly higher than average occurrence of people who have had serious illnesses (physical or mental) among the swingers I have met. I have wondered before now whether there is a connection of some sort, whether an encounter with a one's own mortality leads to people becoming more daring, deciding to go ahead and realise their fantasies (sexual or other), not putting off the things they have dreamed of for any longer. I don't know if this strikes a chord with anyone here.
Mike.
