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Quote by ski69
well y dont u delete urs too

I don't want to, thanks.
thought u owned the place .....
weird...
Quote by ski69
thought u owned the place .....
weird...

Not at all. Why would I want to delete my posts though?
Quote by TimandLene
They failed to respond to two 999 calls I made and I think I should have been advised that no one was on their way, the Councellor agrees with this.

999 calls that sounds heavy in my opinion..and i should be entitled to say what i feel..
it was only for Timandlene benifit and not for yours to make sweeping comments
Quote by ski69

They failed to respond to two 999 calls I made and I think I should have been advised that no one was on their way, the Councellor agrees with this.

999 calls that sounds heavy in my opinion..and i should be entitled to say what i feel..
it was only for Timandlene benifit and not for yours to make sweeping comments
Of course you are entitled, as is everyone(including me). You post on a public forum and you WILL get a reaction to sweeping generalisations such as the one you made. I didn't make any sweeping comments. If you wanted the comment to be only to them and nobody else to comment on it, a PM would have been more appropriate.
I've always been one to be open minded. I worked in a law establishment and for what I've seen there is no justice in retaliation of any kind. I'm sorry but if the victim becomes the perpetrator then that's just as bad as being the perpetrator in the first place IMO.
My father 10 years ago was walking home and asked a few lads to jump down from a lamp post as they were vandalising them, they said "aye mate no bother" but proceeded to jump on top of him, flooring him and beating him to a pulp. It would have been so easy to have got his own back and had them arrested or arranged for someone to do the same back (we knew who they were), but he let the incident go for fear of repercussin (sp?).
And for the record, I'm not normally one for jumping in on other people arguements but I will stand up for people I believe in and Freckledbird is in my opinion one of the most honest (yes sometimes outspoken but constructively), decent posters on this forum and unless she's bought some shares in the site I would say she doesn't own it rotflmao
Quote by jaymar
And for the record, I'm not normally one for jumping in on other people arguements but I will stand up for people I believe in and Freckledbird is in my opinion one of the most honest (yes sometimes outspoken but constructively), decent posters on this forum and unless she's bought some shares in the site I would say she doesn't own it rotflmao

FB gulps
:shock: Thank you redface
Quote by Freckledbird
And for the record, I'm not normally one for jumping in on other people arguements but I will stand up for people I believe in and Freckledbird is in my opinion one of the most honest (yes sometimes outspoken but constructively), decent posters on this forum and unless she's bought some shares in the site I would say she doesn't own it rotflmao

FB gulps
:shock: Thank you redface
here here to that :thumbup:
hisandhers wrote:
PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 2:57 pm Post subject:
Freckledbird wrote:
jaymar wrote:
And for the record, I'm not normally one for jumping in on other people arguements but I will stand up for people I believe in and Freckledbird is in my opinion one of the most honest (yes sometimes outspoken but constructively), decent posters on this forum and unless she's bought some shares in the site I would say she doesn't own it
FB gulps
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here here to that

Ditto that. :thumbup:
Woe betide the day when we get to pick & choose who we want to reply to our statements.
This is an open forum.
However- this isn't helping Tim & Lene. Neither will a locked thread.
Just to give an update to those that gave advice, I seem to have managed to get an army of bureaucrats on the case.
1) Our local Councillor is querying with the police why they didn't advise us that they could not respond to our two 999 calls.
2) Our housing association is asking the police to patrol our area more often and has asked for the address where the teenagers live.
3) I'm waiting to hear from the teenagers housing association.
4) The council are referring the problem to some guy who deals with anti-social behaviour.
Hopefully all this activity will lead somewhere.
It is just a shame that the kids parents haven't come outside when there have been confrontations or police visits.
Glad it's getting sorted for you, TimandLene biggrin
Thanks Frecklebird, I've also now heard that my MP is raising the lack of Police response with the Borough Commander and word has it that George Bush has declared the gang part of the Axis of Evil and is considering a pre-emptive strike. OK, the second part isn't actually true.
Quote by naughtynymphos1
about 4 years ago now my husband was attacked by a group of teenagers, we used to live in a block of flats and the kids used to use the hall ways as a hang out point to smoke their dope etc, anyway one night it was about 8pm and in feb so was dark i went out and told them to clear off as i did from time to time only to have one lad aged 17 to have a go at me on this my hubby came out and escorted him out the building, is was shouting and swearing showing off in front of his mates etc as they do but once out the block my husband turned to come back in, the one lad he took out had a unopened bottle of wine in his hand and i saw his coming after my husband and he went for the back of his head with the bottle anyway i shouted as i saw the lad going for him and on this my husband turned round and held up his arm to protect his head and the lad smashed the bottle over his elbo, it didnt seem to bad at the time but my hubby was in shock we called the police and they called a ambulance, at the hospital they took a x ray and revealed that his arm was badly smashed, his elbo had be removed totally and a section of bone about 3 inch long was just shattered, at first they was going to just amputate his arm above the elbo as it was so badly damaged but they later decided to try and save the arm, luckly they did save his arm but is took 3 operations that included a prostetic elbo, a metal plate and pins and a bone graft off his hip to replace the missing bone in his arm, his lost some usage of that arm but guess its better than not having it at all.
Quote by winchwench
Naughty, thats awful kiss
A tip given to me by another S.H'er- CC the bottom of every letter you write to the local MP and anyone else you can think of. It will let the HA know that you're to be taken seriously, and won't go away.

wanna come see me war wound winch lol
seriously I can empathise with the situation described in this forum totally, we have a yob culture now where it seems to be the norm to accept it, while I don't condone 'vigilantism' something surely has to be done at government level to stem the flow of these attacks on innocent people. Bullying takes many many forms, there doesn't have to be physical violence for people to be seriously upset. lobbying mp's is the way forward in my opinion, and the more people that shout the louder our voices will be heard.
Glad to hear things are moving forward for you both!
Naughty, thats sound horrendous! kiss
xanaisx
Quote by sleazy
seriously I can empathise with the situation described in this forum totally, we have a yob culture now where it seems to be the norm to accept it, while I don't condone 'vigilantism' something surely has to be done at government level to stem the flow of these attacks on innocent people. Bullying takes many many forms, there doesn't have to be physical violence for people to be seriously upset. lobbying mp's is the way forward in my opinion, and the more people that shout the louder our voices will be heard.

Couldn't agree more sleazy I think your absolutely right. Whjhat i'd like to add is that government needs to make itself more dynamic and to convince the public in general to be less apathetic about getting involved (And i count me as an arm chair critic though I do vote locally and nationally and i do write to MP's quite often but should do a LOT!! more)
People (the majority) may be too comfortable in the main to see the need to do this unfortunately. There maybe a time that people do get fed up and want things to change. That! will be a great day to be alive. Like more and more things Government and opposition seem to be becoming standardised with standardised politicians saying standardised things and abiding with health and safety and all things P.C running a standardised country for the standardised person . Is that wholly bad. I don't know, but it ain't so interesting.
Wonder who i'll vote for do I want Gordon Thatcher Or Cameron Blair. to run the country :lol2:.
the problem is cause most of these 'yobs' are under 18 they seem to get away with it, the young lad who attacked sleazy was only 17 at the time and tho he had a criminal record as long as your arm with offences that included, ABH, GBH, assult he robbed a old man at knife point to name but a few he had never been given a custodial sentance because of his age, when we pressed charges the police advised us to hold off the court hearing till August as that was when his 18th birthday was and he could then be tried as a adult, which we did, they charged him with section 18 which carries a 6 to 10 years sentance, his solicitor actually asked us if we would do a binding :shock: to which he got a very rude reply but they still did their bargaining in the court room, dropped the charge to assult and the lad only got 18 months he was back inside in less that two months after he got out, guess thats justice for you.