Bit more selective perhaps

16 Aug 2005

.....about the way things are getting locked.
I understand that the policy is now to lock posts that seem to be 'over' or ground to a halt , and thats a good policy except it seems the " can anyone tell me where the nearest free shag is?" posts seem to be left longer on the board than the ones which have a funny or interesting thread to them and may well attract interesting comments for days on end .
Unless we want this to be just a doggers meet me board then perhaps the positive threads should be more encouraged and the one liner bollocks more actively discouraged .
peace

16 Aug 2005

Here here i agree with your coments and it does seem that interesting threads are are being locked out of hand.
I bet this this thread will be locked now as we have said what was needed and no further input is required.

16 Aug 2005

:P ha ha ha there you go another comment lol, this has to be kept going now, never know what the next one might say :shock:
Pete xxxxxxx

16 Aug 2005

Silky
I agree with you. Problem is now that this thread has nothing to do with Dogging so will prob be moved or deleted.
So if anyone fancys meeting a fat ugly 50 yr old in or around buck or oxen tonight after 10-30pm please let me know lol
Mick

16 Aug 2005

Perhaps if people were a tad more selective in what they posted then the need to lock threads would abate??
:twisted: :twisted:

16 Aug 2005

Jags
Agreed but it is nice to sometimes read things other than just posts for meetings and some of Silkys and others like Dirty Doggers posts are usually very amusing
Regards
Mick

16 Aug 2005

Quote by miltonkeynesmale49
Jags
Agreed but it is nice to sometimes read things other than just posts for meetings and some of Silkys and others like Dirty Doggers posts are usually very amusing
Regards
Mick

It's a matter of opinion about what is amusing and what's just boring/abusive/unwanted or just a conversation between people. Conversations go in the chatroom.
Most people don't care about what's on TV/what someone ate for breakfast/what happened to the cat last night or some such other stuff. (I just made them up in case anyone got a strop on). Frankly.. may I call you Frankly?? .. a load of people are just fed up with stupid posts. See Sarge's rant about 2 weeks ago. Nothing much has changed, that thread provoked a string of extremely stupid posts which only served to provoke the situation further.
If people moderated themselves then there would be no need to move or lock posts. Simple.
rolleyes

:roll:

16 Aug 2005

But then if you think its a stupid post you dont have to read it do you?
I like the posts and often makes me laugh or smile lol.
If you dont like a post, dont read it

16 Aug 2005

Quote by swampbug
But then if you think its a stupid post you dont have to read it do you?
I like the posts and often makes me laugh or smile lol.
If you dont like a post, dont read it

Who? Me? I HAVE to read every single post - others don't. But I don't tend to whinge or whine about the standard of posts, only reply to others!! My opinion is just as valid as other peoples.
:P

16 Aug 2005

of course you have i wasnt having a go just saying lol.
and you read every post? bugger that i just read what looks good lol, but then my wife often tells me i dont read things properly lol

16 Aug 2005

I know you weren't having a go... s'ok!
:P

16 Aug 2005

Quote by swampbug
But then if you think its a stupid post you dont have to read it do you?
I like the posts and often makes me laugh or smile lol.
If you dont like a post, dont read it

Surely you'd have to read a post to decide whether it's stupid or not, or whether you like it or not?

16 Aug 2005

Hello

I think there are valid points all round here, this is a public forum afterall. Looking at it with a fresh pair of eyes so to speak It seems to me that there is no need to loose the funny posts, they should just be re-homed in the cafe or aired in the chat room as it is just that, chit chat.
If people, generally, we're more conciensous and thought more carefully about where their posts went it, would save so much time. Please don't get me wrong, I know there are a core of you on here that are exemplary users who consider the AUP and site rules, but for every one of you there are so many who just don't bother.
Just a reflection of life in general, most people don't give a stuff as long as:
They're getting what they want / It's not happening to them.
Am I out of line when I say the index page of the forum is quite simple to understand?
I can't be bothered to open another window and look at the exact wording but I'm sure I read it and this sticks in my mind. i am a relative newbie to the forums so please correct me if I'm wrong:-
Cafe - a place for discussion and general chit chat
LMU anything that's about meeting up and not doggin or just banter / chat
Dogging - anything to do with doggin but don't go blowing it with specifics? and nothing to do with the other two forum areas?
I hope I haven't offended anyone with my jumpiing in, it's only my opinion and a hugely sweeping generalisation at that, but it's the truth as I see it. About a lot of posts on this site, not just the ones that are locked or overlooked in the dogging section.
My 2 penneth
Thanks for watching wink

And remember you can tune in or not, next time I have a few minutes to talk in depth and with conviction, on a subject I know nothing about lol

16 Aug 2005

Quote by Silk and Big G
.....about the way things are getting locked.
I understand that the policy is now to lock posts that seem to be 'over' or ground to a halt , and thats a good policy except it seems the " can anyone tell me where the nearest free shag is?" posts seem to be left longer on the board than the ones which have a funny or interesting thread to them and may well attract interesting comments for days on end .
Unless we want this to be just a doggers meet me board then perhaps the positive threads should be more encouraged and the one liner bollocks more actively discouraged .
peace

All the moderators do is lock and delete threads which are inappropriate. Only an idiot would suggest that this is wrong.
In reality, all the talk over which posts should be locked and not locked boils down to one thing - differing personal values. Every time a post is locked, there are some that agree, and some that disagree. Those that agree cheer quietly in the background, those that disagree demand not only to be heard, but to be acquiesed to..
That has always been the way of the world.
lhk
Kat

16 Aug 2005

Quote by KitKat
All the moderators do is lock and delete threads which are inappropriate. Only an idiot would suggest that this is wrong.

Phew, steady on Kat! Here was I, all ready to write in support of everything Jags has said in response on here. I agree about the plummeting standards in here and I think the mods have got it exactly right at the moment. Then you come along. rolleyes

16 Aug 2005

Don't want to make things worst here and this might of been asked before..
What about an of topic section ?

16 Aug 2005

It's been asked before Tony.

16 Aug 2005

Time to lock THIS thread???
Dare me! :twisted: :twisted:
:idea:

16 Aug 2005

Quote by Jim_York
Hello
I think there are valid points all round here, this is a public forum afterall.

I would take this as a Private Forumopen for the public to use and abide by the rules laid down by the owner and moderated by his helpers.
Just the way I see it. Thank you Mark & Co
Fred

16 Aug 2005

Quote by MikeNorth

All the moderators do is lock and delete threads which are inappropriate. Only an idiot would suggest that this is wrong.

Perhaps I will put it round the other way round then - Only an idiot would suggest that Mods should not lock and delete threads which are inappropriate, and I cannot remember anyone ever saying that.
The only argument is over which threads are inappropriate, and that is a matter of personal opinion and one which there will never be any agreement on. Every thread that is locked there is at least one person who thinks it should be left open - the one who posted it, and at least one person who thinks it should be locked - the one who locked it.
Everyone else falls somewhere in between the two.
Whatever 'policy' in vogue will be wrong in someones eyes, and they will always feel the need to say something.
lhk
Kat

16 Aug 2005

Im not sure whats on TV im not watching it , I dont own a cat and I rarely eat breakfast - and I never ever post about them . The reason I dont post about them is that they are dull and inane and uninteresting - much like the threads I was referring to when I originally posted this question in the DOGGING section .
I suppose moving it has added in some way to the arguament , but it was specifically the long long long list of one line similar questions asked over and over again in that section of the site to which I referred . Reports of my 'idiocy' have been greatly exagerated and if it had come from someone whose opinion I respected would have been offensive .
I have never ever suggested that moderators arent entitled to their opinion , of course they are , and many of them are amongst some of the most valid on the boards - however with power comes responsibility and of course criticism . I dont expect it to be perfect its all just amateur fun after all , but at the same time I dont expect to be called an idiot or or have someone suggest im overly aggresive or condemning just because I pass comment on those decisions .
Hey truth is its like this - Moderators by their very nature - will contain a percentage of folks who enjoy the pseudo-authority they are afforded by their position . Some days those percentage that are a little that way inclined ( you dont know who you are ) will get outta bed with a moody on , and their judgement will shall we say be a little cloudy .
Its quite correct that much like any system its imperfect , but it works better at swinging heaven than anywhere else ive ever been in tha main , so good on the majority .
My original comment still stands ,(and im not sure it was taken the way it was meant ) as far as the dogging board goes there is still a huge great list of new members daily asking the same tired , lazy uninteresting question , without any thought or any attempt at contributing . Ive yet to see any of those threads locked because of a moderators opinion . What I asked was is that what we want from that particular board , or do we prefer to leave the slightly longer more interesting posts . I guess the opinion has been clearly registered that the list of one liners is preferred ( and of course the opinion is valid) its just a shame that it will degnerate into one more list amongst hundreds of others , instead of being a thriving place like the cafe is .
Still im glad to get some input from people who regularly post in threads like 'whats your favourite song?' 'masked ball' and the like , with those coy wee 'knowing asides' to the people that 'know cos they were at the munch' because were all much more interested in that kind of comment than we are in breakfast cereal .
Peace Y'all
x

16 Aug 2005

Quote by KitKat
Whatever 'policy' in vogue will be wrong in someones eyes, and they will always feel the need to say something.
lhk
Kat

I genuinely think some of the confusion is that people really are unsure what the 'policy' is. Some guidelines/examples (which could actually be used in shorthand by a locking mod to explain why a thread has been locked maybe dunno

) would, I think, help.
If people are confused as to why a thread has been locked, they not only get irritable, they are likey to do it again and surely eradication is the answer. The reason will also be there for all prospective msicreants to read and see what to avoid.
The alternative is for a locking mod to explain why on each thread - very good but a lot of work.
Just a thought as a constructive suggestion.

16 Aug 2005

It's mostly obvious why a thread has been locked. If it's not obvious then use the PM system to ask.
:P
PS in edit Sarge's Rant on dire topics

16 Aug 2005

Quote by Jags
It's mostly obvious why a thread has been locked. If it's not obvious then use the PM system to ask.
:P
PS in edit Sarge's Rant on dire topics

I think I said something similar to what I said above in response to Sarge's declaration, which I support. Either that or I decided not to bother as everybody was sounding off at the time confused

The declaration is wholly subjective because it refers to what is funny, entertaining etc without any definition. The easiest way to define things, in my view, is to give examples of what sort of thing is not acceptable and putting it in an advice Sticky. When a mod locks a thread they can just say 'Reason - Guidance item 4'.
I'm not having a go here by the way - I just think it would make life easier for all - including the mods.

17 Aug 2005

Ahhh ok, this puzzled me too and I did PM the lovely MissChief who must have waved her magic totem pole to unlock it (thank you biggrin

). I did wonder why it had been locked but there seems to be a division between doggers who also like to chat and doggers who only want to post meet requests.......personally, I like a chinwag with the dogging gang so thanks for freeing the thread from the padlock! :D
http://www.swingingheaven.co.uk/swingers-forum/viewtopic/53355.html
Chatroom is all well and good but it's nice to have some threads about dogging by doggers as well as the ones just requesting meetings and to be fair, it's not like we fill up the dogging section with non dogging topics, GingerJo & MrsNaughty even managed to arrange a Doggers BBQ recently....we like to be sociable online and in person when we can too :D
<slinks back to Dogging to look for any old sausages left on the barbie>

17 Aug 2005

I'll be honest - left to my own devices I would have locked that thread in dogging - it's a story so I would have suggested they post it there.
I'm assuming that because this was originally posted in Dogging, it is those posts that are being considered, rather than the cafe ones.
The reason I leave most of the one liners is that seems to be how doggers arrange their meets via the internet (I'm not getting into the argument about arranged meets not being dogging biggrin

)
That forum is specifically there for that purpose so unless they are too specific or spam they get left.
It's pretty much the same for Lets Meet Up as well.
Are you suggesting that the dogging forum become more like the cafe, with more social and off topic threads?
Or are you asking that it be moderated more forcefully, with those who don't put more effort into posting for meets being locked or deleted?
Ta
Jas
XXX

17 Aug 2005

Whilst I didn't lock that particular dogging thread, however like Jas, it did cross my mind. Stories go in the stories section -----look left and post away.
To my mind (personally) some of the social threads are no more than a bunch of friends making arrangements every single day to do something other than a sexual encounter. Boring!! Use the phone, use the PM system but the constant nonsense is clogging up the board and getting up a load of noses. However, as a Mod I just look at it and rolleyes

:roll: :roll:
Some of those threads are heading for a locking soon.
Each to their own - we (all of us) will never ever agree on what's a good post/bad post/boring post/interesting post/correct thing/wrong thing etc etc etc.
biggrin

17 Aug 2005

:shock:

17 Aug 2005

Quote by Jas-Tim
I'm assuming that because this was originally posted in Dogging, it is those posts that are being considered, rather than the cafe ones.

Yep, dogging ones are the ones I was referring to......

Quote by Jas-Tim
Are you suggesting that the dogging forum become more like the cafe, with more social and off topic threads?
Or are you asking that it be moderated more forcefully, with those who don't put more effort into posting for meets being locked or deleted?

Me personally? neither! I find some of the oneliners in Dogging a bit dreary, but then I either don't comment or don't read them........there's room for both styles of posting and they're always about dogging one way or another (the BBQ thread is the only social arrangement thread I can remember). Some of us like a dogging chat and some of us don't but it's not the cause of any friction. Apart from the naming of sites/times for meets, Dogging doesn't seem to need much modding as far as I can tell. Sometimes, we just like to swap stories and have a discussion about them as an antidote to the other stuff in there biggrin

It's no biggie, it was just a surprise to it locked without big red crosses in any of the posts lol

17 Aug 2005

hello cafe dwellers wink

the majority of you won't have heard of me, likewise, i am not familiar with a lot of your names either as i very, very rarely visit this forum. in fact, i wouldn't have rediscovered this thread, had its removal to the cafe not been mentioned in a private message.
ok, so who am i, and why should i imagine anyone cares? well, i don't. i'm the one that started a thread which was locked and subsequently unlocked, the cause of the former, being the subject of this debate. personaly, i have no ongoing interest in my post or the contents, i doub't anyone has, the issue, as silk and big g pointed out, was the inconsistency shown when it comes to selecting posts deemed innapropiate for the board. for thiose unfamiliar with the dogging board, here is an example. yesterday, a guy called babydavy posted this title "naked housekeeper available". in short, davy was offering his services, regarding doing your domestic chores, whilst nude. i'm guessing, but i assume, in a similar manner to the romeo cleaners, that featured heavilly on "eurotrash", years ago. ok, you need not look for it, its gone. but the point is this, it was only withdrawn after frecklebird and myself made some lighthearted comments pertaining to it, other than that, it enjoyed an airtime of at least ten hours, all without being locked, although containing nothing in its content or title to do with dogging.
ok, now to my post, which i find embarrasing to defend, as i'm quite aware it written flippantly, and in part as a reaction to scolling through endless posts of the "suck me dick" variety. what i will say in its defence however, is this. the subject, although in story form, was never intended as a ficticious piece that would sit comforably on the shelves in the story section. in fact, another such tale, although not locked, was commented upon as follows. "this would be better in the story section, not very erotic though". fine, but it was the lack of eroticism, which in my view, made it less of a story, and more of an actual account, containing real events and emotions relating to the experience of dogging, which, may or not have been of interest to couples or singles, experienced or not, either by way of insight or comparison.
as to the content and general style of my posts, and as to wether they are percieved by some as funny, offensive, rubbish or otherwise, well, what can i say? personally, i have never ever had a complaint, but have recieved by way of pm, many favourable replies to my rambling, sometimes obscene and often analytical subjects. of course, it doesn't mean that the majority don't disaprove, or find the material innapropiate, its just never been said, exept by moderators of course. it could also be true, that the hundreds of people that upon seeing "dirtydoggers" as the author, choose to read my stuff only to critisise, but then, having read it, and still outraged by the content, choose to say nothing. its their option.
as said before, i do not use the cafe. many couples that happily use the dogging board choose not to venture further afield whilst others enjoy the general discussions that abound here also. yes, its true, i could post my topics here, but as i said before, most of them pertain to dogging, albeit often in abstract form. to post them here, would be as inconvenient for the majority, whom, upon seeing a seductive title, is doomed for dissapointment when it is evident the subject is about carpark exhibitionism, something most have scant interest in, or opinion of, as it is for us couples, upon seeing "dogging" as a post title, only to discover "fit lad from basingstoke needs his dick sucking tonight" as to wether my posts are offensive, i'm sure, to some, they are. part of my experiences with erotisism stemmed from the bawdy world of "gentlemen's evenings", strippers and working men's club comedians. for me, sex and laughter often go together, we can pull the subject apart one day, but as i'm not often here, i may have to weave it impercetpibly into a dogging context rolleyes

i hope not to give the impression of being a lout, as i'm a military trained pilot and was an instructor in a civil role, so now you can be certain of it :lol: it was egotistical of me to mention that, but for someone to imply mr g was an "idiot" on the strength of an isolated comment was, in my opinion, offensive..my post is here for all to see, no doubt, opinions will be formed. all i ask is that you read my other stuff first, then you will say "fucks sake, if cunts could fly he'd be a fucking wing commander". i'm coming back to the dogging board boys, they can gag us, but they can't stop us laughing eh? :wink: