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I have just been reading a post in 'lets meet up' where a single guy quite honestly states he is after a good blow job.
The poor guy's first reply to this was a female attacking his efforts at pleasing women. The thread was then hi-jacked by a lively debate (not involving the guy, but around his request).
The sad thing is this is not an isolated incident.
Why shouldn't he say that? If all he want's is a good blow job, what is wrong in him asking for it? He might not get any replies - but so what? Why is it the postings police feel they have a right to comment on something that is none of their business on his thread?
As far as I see it, the Cafe is the place for chit-chat and debate. Lets Meet Up is for serious posts from people who want to meet other people for one or more specific reasons.
I see no reason why anyone can't write exactly what they are looking for (with the exception of children) in Lets Meet Up without being battered by people questioning the spelling, the content of their request, their right to ask for what they want, their bluntness, comments on the post being too brief, it being a one liner........ the list goes on.
Some people may not like the way an ad or post is worded, usually because it is not to their own personal taste or of any interest to them, but that doesn't give that person any less of a right to ask.... and if its not something that interests you STFU and don't bother putting any comment.
Use the Cafe for debate. Hell, I strongly beleive in the right to express ones opinions. Not everyone is going to agree on everything - that's life! If we did all agree it would be like reading posts from the Stepford Swingers Wives!
BUT, can we try and keep the debate in here and leave the Lets Meet Up posts for people interested in the actual post?????? Is that tooooo much to ask?
Quote by PoloLady
I have just been reading a post in 'lets meet up' where a single guy quite honestly states he is after a good blow job.
Use the Cafe for debate. Hell, I strongly beleive in the right to express ones opinions. Not everyone is going to agree on everything - that's life! If we did all agree it would be like reading posts from the Stepford Swingers Wives!

Maybe we should have a sticky where we can debate and argue the toss about anything and everything?
It would certainly make some good night time reading . . . wink
Tracy-Jayne
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Awww come On ladies !!!! :cry:
I have been asking for a BJ for nine months and I am not even discussed lol wink
Give a bloke a chance lol
Fred ( wiltered and dissused ) :lol:
Fred
Yes, it is too much to ask.
I haven't read the post in question, but I do understand the type of posts you are referring to. However, something to think about is not what effect it has on the individual poster, but the overall effect it has on the Forum as a whole. One of the reasons people comment about the standard of posts is in some cases to raise the standards of the poster. It's not a case of anyone can post anything. It makes it difficult to read if they can't be bothered to spell check, punctuate or speak in textspeak. If they post something stupid, then by pointing out how stupid it is, might help them post more sensibly and actually achieve what they wanted in the first place! And no point saying if it's not for you, don't read it, I don't have a choice, even if you do. But for normal members, why should they be put off reading any posts, just so someone can post badly? If new members or lurkers saw loads and loads of stupid 'I wanna shag now' posts, they would think that's the right way to post on means they will then copy that style or, if they are more sensible already, they may decide this isn't for them and we lose a potentially good member for the sake of protecting the rights of an idiot to post what he likes.
Mal
Got to say I agree wir Polo Lady. I am new on this forum but have been scared to post honest one liners like can I have a blow job or do women like to lez it up and do DP etc For fear of being bashed! (Not saying I would be that unsubtle) But surley we should all be allowed to express ourselves freely without fear of reprisal?
Agree..?
P.s Can I have a blowjob cos I luv em. (gonna hide behind a chair with a hard hat on!)
fred, trust you! You never said please, so you dont get one lol
But Polo Lady and Redhot have a good point, the guy was just speaking his mind and asking for what he wanted. Ok, so he might not get any replies, but who cares, at least he has been able to ask for what he wants!
Would anyone have said anything if it had been a woman asking to give a bloke a BJ?
Me thinks not!
i agree with polo lady if someone posts a request for a meet whether it is a short bluntly put request why bother with the usual barage of piss taking which then changes the thread which happens frequently.
im sure if that happened to certain other peoples postings they too will be annoyed , so basically if the particular ad is not to your liking or taste just ignore it rather than the usual piss taking replies ..
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Dont want the world to know lol xxxx
Would anyone have said anything if it had been a woman asking to give a bloke a BJ?
Me thinks not!
Thats EXACTLY the point,well said,and polo lady.I read the post in question and my first thought was...........oh yeah as thats not the point,freedom of speech is,even if that means the freedom to make yourself look a prat
i have read and posted on the above mentioned thread and i agree 100% with you TJ. All the poor guy wants is a blow job, leave him alone!!
Quote by mal609
Yes, it is too much to ask.
I haven't read the post in question, but I do understand the type of posts you are referring to.
And no point saying if it's not for you, don't read it, I don't have a choice, even if you do. But for normal members, why should they be put off
Mal

His post (and this is by no means just about this guys post) was quite reasonable. He asked for what he wanted and explained why he was looking for it. Yes he is unlikely to get what he wants - but you take your chances!
I am not suggesting the posts are not read - read away - read to your hearts content....but.... don't use someones perfectly serious 'Let's Meet Up' post as a place to start expressing individual opinions and starting a debate or a joke thread! What I am saying is... if you read a post and feel strongly about it's content... debate it in the Cafe. If you read a post and it doesn't grab your attention - go and read another one, don't make unwanted comments and leave the poor sod to get on with finding the answer to thier sexual desires.
Quote by zorbotic
Would anyone have said anything if it had been a woman asking to give a bloke a BJ?
Me thinks not!

Apparently...yes they would!!! Not that I was asking to give a blow-job (I was asking for a shag!) But your point is almost correct in that a woman would have fewer comments made.
Edit - sorry quoted the wrong pers - but it is the right quote.
I guess it depends , what really offends people about the " I want a blow job " posts is the attitude behind it . There are hundreds of men who come here because they see the women involved in swinging as just prostitutes only cheaper options . Like it or not the only real way to have some clue as to wether their attitude is such is to have them talk at a bit longer length than that . After all if you want to make the male female comparison lets see what happened if a fella asked a woman in the street for a BJ without even introducing himself. I suppose it just a modicum of human respect and knowing the difference between a woman and a hole in the mattress.
Peace G
Quote by Silk and Big G
I guess it depends , what really offends people about the " I want a blow job " posts is the attitude behind it .
Peace G

Honestly Silk and Big G, I didn't find his post offending at all. What I did find offending is the womans reply stating he should improve his performance at satisfying women before seeking to fulfill his needs. What gave her the right to make that comment?
If I posted "would like to spend a couple of hours having a guy play with me whilst I remain passive"... does that give someone the right to comment something on the lines of "well if you were more active and tried harder...."
If a post is truly a couple of no effort words it doesn't need a comment - the fact it gets no replies should send out a message to anyone with half a brain - especially when they notice the type of posts which are getting lots of attention. (Yes I know there are always some really dumb ass people).
But if it is a serious post, why shouldn't a person be able to say what it is they are looking for? If we decide there is a 'right way to post' template - surly people will write what they think is acceptable rather than what they actually want! Isn't that more of a problem?
Personally I like to be able to tell who the dickheads are by how they write their posts. If they all start to write good posts, I might end up meeting them by mistake!
Quote by Silk and Big G
I guess it depends , what really offends people about the " I want a blow job " posts is the attitude behind it . There are hundreds of men who come here because they see the women involved in swinging as just prostitutes only cheaper options . Like it or not the only real way to have some clue as to wether their attitude is such is to have them talk at a bit longer length than that . After all if you want to make the male female comparison lets see what happened if a fella asked a woman in the street for a BJ without even introducing himself. I suppose it just a modicum of human respect and knowing the difference between a woman and a hole in the mattress.
Peace G

I guess you are right.............but really why should people ALLOW themselves to be offended.......why not just ignore the posts.........Ive only used this site for a very short period but know exactly what to expect from the" lets meet up" just bilge,but hey no one forces me to read to you and everyone else.
Of course dont misunderstand me , we also usually ignore them . However like most assholes in life now and then one catches you in the wrong mood . I wouldnt bother replying at length , because a persons depth is usually pretty visible in that kind of post , and wasted typing is wasted typing , but I can understand the odd tirade , as ive said before in the dogging forum .
Quote by Silk and Big G
Of course dont misunderstand me , we also usually ignore them . However like most assholes in life now and then one catches you in the wrong mood .

I understand - things are never quite as simple as we wish they could be and the real dickheads bug me too. There are probably some posts that I feel deserve a good bashing. It just seems to be getting a habbit with some forum users to scan the Let's Meet Up posts searching for an innocent victim to give a good kicking to.
In a recent post I had 22 replies from people telling me they were not what I was looking for!!!! I know some of them were from people I know just having a joke, but it encouraged everyone else to have a go too. 22 replies to tell me they were not what I wanted and I haven't counted the general chit chat replies that turned up in there.
It has got to the point were I now am having second thoughts about using the Let's Meet Up section for something me and a friend are arranging for next saturday.
All I am wishing for is for people to recognise the difference between the Cafe and Let's Meet Up and use the two facilities accordingly.
Quote by Silk and Big G
I guess it depends , what really offends people about the " I want a blow job " posts is the attitude behind it . There are hundreds of men who come here because they see the women involved in swinging as just prostitutes only cheaper options .

That attitude is not exclusive to males. I have not, for example, read any men boasting about how they "use" women - they would be crucified, but when the shoe is on the other foot, it's not only accepted, it's praised.
As I have said in another thread, a gentle nudge in the right direction can do wonders. To goad or poke fun will only result in bad feeling. One of the old regulars on here once gave me a great bit of advice. They said that when they said hello to a newbie or even commented on someone making a tit of themselves, they often added a question. For example...
BJ-NW's first post reads - "Big cock needs sucking, come get it baby!"
Wilma Replies - Hi BJ-NW, welcome to Swinging Heaven. Have you read all about the site?There are some great tips on how to achieve what you are looking for. Can I point you in the direction of this post...(include link here). Have fun and enjoy your time here.
Now it may not work, but like I said before, it's worth a try.
Love
Wilma
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Given the nature of this site and why most of us are here, you should expect posts like the one PoloLady mentioned to appear. I trust we are all consenting, openminded adults and if a guy wants to ask for a blow job, let him! Nothing ventured, nothing gained.
After reading some of the threads, I often wonder if there is the Swinging Heaven equivalent of the Stasi...
By the way... did he get a BJ after all the fuss? And PoloLady, I hope you get your well-deserved shag!
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I would have thought the fact that his post would receive umpteen views and if no-one replied then that should in itself speak volumes...
No real need for his post to be attacked really...
reckon the guy has been done to death and may well e frightened off psoting again....sad if so
maybe some constructive advice on his approach for the future might help?
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Thank fuck I've finished me Jelly Babies
I remember, when i posted my first post, everyone was taking the piss out of it.
It really made me feel sick, that they were not giving the new guy a chance.
Well, said poloLady.
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I need a fuck from a female, PM me!!!!!
I dont remember that ! Please post a link :-)
Quote by Silk and Big G
I dont remember that ! Please post a link :-)

http://www.swingingheaven.co.uk/swingers-forum/viewtopic/23969.html
there you go.......
Quote by davej
I dont remember that ! Please post a link :-)

http://www.swingingheaven.co.uk/swingers-forum/viewtopic/23969.html
there you go.......
BTW, i am not a virgin anymore. I have a gf too, i havent told her about this site, if i do she'll probably dump me.
Thanks for finding the the Dave, how did u find it?