ok im posting this as im avoiding going into town to buy my car tax.
i may be talking without knowing all the facts, but i just dont see that car tax is fair, for several reasons.
we buy a car and pay VAT, we buy petrol, god tax tax and more tax there, we pay for our mots to ensure the car is roadworthy, we pay insurance.
when i say we maybe i should say some, there are hundreds if not thousands of people out there who dont pay any of the above.
what is road tax actually for?? if its about mantaining the roads where does the tax in petrol go?
if its to police the roads, whats council tax for?
and why are there sooo many price bandings for road tax? are they saying a tiny sports car thats hardly ever taken out wears the roads down more? if its about how often we use the roads then surely this tax is recoverable via the already high petrol prices?
if it about how many roads and quality then should we in cornwall pay less as we dont even have a moterway?
sorry so many questions, ill probally be told off now for not being specific and no one knowing what point im actually raising lol
am i the only one who feels there should be a big review on the taxation of owning a car.
i cannot be without a car living in cornwall i need one to work.
xx fem xx
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car tax , is it fair?
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Car tax (RFL) is an out and out rip off
Duty should be put on the fuel then even the scrotes that thing and insurance is above them would have to pay via the fuel they used...
Duty should be put on the fuel then even the scrotes that thing and insurance is above them would have to pay via the fuel they used...
Sex God
we r one of the counties that r taxed to the hilt,
the goverment r skint, so they tax u on anything they can.
just wait till they tax yr sex lives
the goverment r skint, so they tax u on anything they can.
just wait till they tax yr sex lives
Sex God
The biggest problem in London isnt the Goverment its the Mayor ;-)
Along with Insurance Premium Tax, the Road Fund License is one of the biggest rip-offs going.
It keeps an army of turkey voters at DVLA in jobs and it's far too easy to dodge (if ANPR was as good as it's claimed why are one in twenty of all vehicles still without a tax disc?).
The billions raised go into Gordon's coffers yet we see little re-investment in our third world road system. The quality of roads has visibily declined in the last ten years.
There's an efficient system already available to collect money that is unavoidable, it's called VAT but the problem is that politicians have to have all these little tax-raising dodges so as they can claim that income tax hasn't gone up and keep their election pledges.
Oh and let's not forget, the Chancellor is putting fuel duty up by ANOTHER 2p a litre next month as part of a previous budget announcement even though creaming off record amounts of income due to elevated oil prices.
It keeps an army of turkey voters at DVLA in jobs and it's far too easy to dodge (if ANPR was as good as it's claimed why are one in twenty of all vehicles still without a tax disc?).
The billions raised go into Gordon's coffers yet we see little re-investment in our third world road system. The quality of roads has visibily declined in the last ten years.
There's an efficient system already available to collect money that is unavoidable, it's called VAT but the problem is that politicians have to have all these little tax-raising dodges so as they can claim that income tax hasn't gone up and keep their election pledges.
Oh and let's not forget, the Chancellor is putting fuel duty up by ANOTHER 2p a litre next month as part of a previous budget announcement even though creaming off record amounts of income due to elevated oil prices.
If you keep-on about it long enough, they'll put the car tax on fuel. And you'll end-up paying far more than you do now. Compared to the total cost of a vehicle, the annual/six-monthly fee for the tax disc is small.
Now, if you wanted to moan about something, moan about the VAT that you pay on the TAX you pay on fuel. Yes, the 75% tax (ish) of the cost of fuel is taxed for VAT as well. So, for the priviledge of paying fuel tax you also get to pay a tax levied on the tax you pay !!!!!!!!
Everybody moans about things, but nobody does anything. That's why they do it, because they know when push-comes-to-shove everybody will walk away muttering......................
The bottom line is this: you'll all do just what they want you to. Nothing.
Now, if you wanted to moan about something, moan about the VAT that you pay on the TAX you pay on fuel. Yes, the 75% tax (ish) of the cost of fuel is taxed for VAT as well. So, for the priviledge of paying fuel tax you also get to pay a tax levied on the tax you pay !!!!!!!!
Everybody moans about things, but nobody does anything. That's why they do it, because they know when push-comes-to-shove everybody will walk away muttering......................
The bottom line is this: you'll all do just what they want you to. Nothing.
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If you keep-on about it long enough, they'll put the car tax on fuel. And you'll end-up paying far more than you do now. Compared to the total cost of a vehicle, the annual/six-monthly fee for the tax disc is small.
Now, if you wanted to moan about something, moan about the VAT that you pay on the TAX you pay on fuel. Yes, the 75% tax (ish) of the cost of fuel is taxed for VAT as well. So, for the priviledge of paying fuel tax you also get to pay a tax levied on the tax you pay !!!!!!!!
Everybody moans about things, but nobody does anything. That's why they do it, because they know when push-comes-to-shove everybody will walk away muttering......................
The bottom line is this: you'll all do just what they want you to. Nothing.
When someone comes up with a viable way to protest against these taxes then let me know! The stay-away-from-the-pumps-day isn't an option as most of us need our cars for work so we all go and fill up a day earlier, causing more queues at the pumps and they still get their money from us whichever day we do it.
We could organise protest marches to show the powers-that-be that we're sick of it all but then we'd end up meeting the Protest Against Council Tax Increases, Make Poverty History, Pensioners Against Long Bus Queues or the Equal Rights For Bisexual Unmarried Parent Immigrant Squatters lot coming the other way!
The best way to protest against ANY Govt is at the polling stations. The trouble with this is, we only get that chance every few years and the majority of voters who can be bothered to get off their benefit-saved arses put their crosses next to the same party their fathers and grandfathers voted for instead of using their own brains and making their own minds up!
The people in this country who are screwed every which way are the ones who work hard and pay all these horrendous taxes while the scroungers who sit at home all day collecting their benefits are laughing all the way to the bookies. They're the ones who, for the most part, don't pay road tax, don't MOT their cars and insure them half the time and the ones costing the rest of us a bleeding fortune!
***I am NOT tarring ALL benefit claimants with the same brush before anyone flames me for this!*** I live in the middle of a large council housing estate. I have 20 houses and flats in my street and I know for a fact that only 6 of the residents are working. If you rounded up all the drivers who have their cars on the road illegally, you'll find that the majority are not working.
I've deviated from the original topic a bit but it's all linked at the end of the day. We pay a horrendous amount of taxes because we have to keep a lot of people in benefits when they could be earning their own wage.
I'm getting off my PMT-ridden soapbox before I land myself in even more trouble!
Sassy goes off to find flame resistant pants
Quote by Sassy-Seren
If you keep-on about it long enough, they'll put the car tax on fuel. And you'll end-up paying far more than you do now. Compared to the total cost of a vehicle, the annual/six-monthly fee for the tax disc is small.
Now, if you wanted to moan about something, moan about the VAT that you pay on the TAX you pay on fuel. Yes, the 75% tax (ish) of the cost of fuel is taxed for VAT as well. So, for the priviledge of paying fuel tax you also get to pay a tax levied on the tax you pay !!!!!!!!
Everybody moans about things, but nobody does anything. That's why they do it, because they know when push-comes-to-shove everybody will walk away muttering......................
The bottom line is this: you'll all do just what they want you to. Nothing.
When someone comes up with a viable way to protest against these taxes then let me know! The stay-away-from-the-pumps-day isn't an option as most of us need our cars for work so we all go and fill up a day earlier, causing more queues at the pumps and they still get their money from us whichever day we do it.
We could organise protest marches to show the powers-that-be that we're sick of it all but then we'd end up meeting the Protest Against Council Tax Increases, Make Poverty History, Pensioners Against Long Bus Queues or the Equal Rights For Bisexual Unmarried Parent Immigrant Squatters lot coming the other way!
The best way to protest against ANY Govt is at the polling stations. The trouble with this is, we only get that chance every few years and the majority of voters who can be bothered to get off their benefit-saved arses put their crosses next to the same party their fathers and grandfathers voted for instead of using their own brains and making their own minds up!
The people in this country who are screwed every which way are the ones who work hard and pay all these horrendous taxes while the scroungers who sit at home all day collecting their benefits are laughing all the way to the bookies. They're the ones who, for the most part, don't pay road tax, don't MOT their cars and insure them half the time and the ones costing the rest of us a bleeding fortune!
***I am NOT tarring ALL benefit claimants with the same brush before anyone flames me for this!*** I live in the middle of a large council housing estate. I have 20 houses and flats in my street and I know for a fact that only 6 of the residents are working. If you rounded up all the drivers who have their cars on the road illegally, you'll find that the majority are not working.
I've deviated from the original topic a bit but it's all linked at the end of the day. We pay a horrendous amount of taxes because we have to keep a lot of people in benefits when they could be earning their own wage.
I'm getting off my PMT-ridden soapbox before I land myself in even more trouble!
Sassy goes off to find flame resistant pants
Agree...agree....agree and agree again! Well done for your post.
Quote by Sassy-Seren
If you keep-on about it long enough, they'll put the car tax on fuel. And you'll end-up paying far more than you do now. Compared to the total cost of a vehicle, the annual/six-monthly fee for the tax disc is small.
Now, if you wanted to moan about something, moan about the VAT that you pay on the TAX you pay on fuel. Yes, the 75% tax (ish) of the cost of fuel is taxed for VAT as well. So, for the priviledge of paying fuel tax you also get to pay a tax levied on the tax you pay !!!!!!!!
Everybody moans about things, but nobody does anything. That's why they do it, because they know when push-comes-to-shove everybody will walk away muttering......................
The bottom line is this: you'll all do just what they want you to. Nothing.
When someone comes up with a viable way to protest against these taxes then let me know! The stay-away-from-the-pumps-day isn't an option as most of us need our cars for work so we all go and fill up a day earlier, causing more queues at the pumps and they still get their money from us whichever day we do it.
We could organise protest marches to show the powers-that-be that we're sick of it all but then we'd end up meeting the Protest Against Council Tax Increases, Make Poverty History, Pensioners Against Long Bus Queues or the Equal Rights For Bisexual Unmarried Parent Immigrant Squatters lot coming the other way!
The best way to protest against ANY Govt is at the polling stations. The trouble with this is, we only get that chance every few years and the majority of voters who can be bothered to get off their benefit-saved arses put their crosses next to the same party their fathers and grandfathers voted for instead of using their own brains and making their own minds up!
The people in this country who are screwed every which way are the ones who work hard and pay all these horrendous taxes while the scroungers who sit at home all day collecting their benefits are laughing all the way to the bookies. They're the ones who, for the most part, don't pay road tax, don't MOT their cars and insure them half the time and the ones costing the rest of us a bleeding fortune!
***I am NOT tarring ALL benefit claimants with the same brush before anyone flames me for this!*** I live in the middle of a large council housing estate. I have 20 houses and flats in my street and I know for a fact that only 6 of the residents are working. If you rounded up all the drivers who have their cars on the road illegally, you'll find that the majority are not working.
I've deviated from the original topic a bit but it's all linked at the end of the day. We pay a horrendous amount of taxes because we have to keep a lot of people in benefits when they could be earning their own wage.
I'm getting off my PMT-ridden soapbox before I land myself in even more trouble!
Sassy goes off to find flame resistant pants
Agree, agree, agree and agree again ! A very good post.
agree fully sassy,
being in a job where by i have to hold a enhanced CRB i cannot afford to have a criminal conviction, therfore i have to tow the line and pay the dues that the goverment choose to bleed me dry for.
the problem with the political parties at the moment are i cant tell them apart.
im by far a high earner, but just high enough that i pay a 1/4 of my income in tax and NI. and am not entitled to passport benefits.
as a loan parent i would be better off financially not working.
it seems to me their are more people on benefit ( i do not listen to the unemployed satistics cuse thats JUST those on job seekers not benefits) so the ones on the second rung of the ladder re income from employment, are really being hit in the pocket.
i have to have a car to work, i cant afford to not tax insure etc cuse i would then lose my job.
if there were a answer again id love to know it cuse its the law abiding who are constantly being knocked down.
sorry i kind digressed off my own topic there.
xx fem xx
being in a job where by i have to hold a enhanced CRB i cannot afford to have a criminal conviction, therfore i have to tow the line and pay the dues that the goverment choose to bleed me dry for.
the problem with the political parties at the moment are i cant tell them apart.
im by far a high earner, but just high enough that i pay a 1/4 of my income in tax and NI. and am not entitled to passport benefits.
as a loan parent i would be better off financially not working.
it seems to me their are more people on benefit ( i do not listen to the unemployed satistics cuse thats JUST those on job seekers not benefits) so the ones on the second rung of the ladder re income from employment, are really being hit in the pocket.
i have to have a car to work, i cant afford to not tax insure etc cuse i would then lose my job.
if there were a answer again id love to know it cuse its the law abiding who are constantly being knocked down.
sorry i kind digressed off my own topic there.
xx fem xx
Sex God
Quote by Sassy-Seren
The best way to protest against ANY Govt is at the polling stations. The trouble with this is, we only get that chance every few years and the majority of voters who can be bothered to get off their benefit-saved arses put their crosses next to the same party their fathers and grandfathers voted for instead of using their own brains and making their own minds up!
And thats where Conservative have shot their bolt
They have turned round and stated that they will make the scroungers (they didnt use that term but thats what they meant) do work for their benefit handouts...
They aint gonna get the vote from the scroungers now are they......
Sex God
Quote by fem_4_taboo
as a loan parent i would be better off financially not working.
At the moment, you probably would be better of, or at least being in part time or a lower paid job, but things are due to change from october this year.
Quote by fem_4_taboo
it seems to me their are more people on benefit ( i do not listen to the unemployed satistics cuse thats JUST those on job seekers not benefits) so the ones on the second rung of the ladder re income from employment, are really being hit in the pocket.
From October this year, a lone parent whose youngest child is aged over 12 will no longer be able to claim Income support purely on the grounds of being a lone parent. They will be required to claim Job Seekers Allowance and will be required to look for work. All one parents who are presently getting Income Support will also be moved over to Job Seekers Allowance, and each year, the age of the youngest child will drop, until all lone parents with children of school age (I think it is age 7 or over) will have to be looking for work. This will impact on the figures published each month, but is mainly being done to support the Governments failing policy of moving children out of poverty :undecided:
And I also agree with the car tax - I HATE paying it, but along with a lot people, we do it, we moan about it, but we dont always understand if we can actually do anything about it.
If you want to peruse the laws on public assembly and protest, you'll find little to amuse or comfort you.
You cannot protest within a half-mile of parliament without the permission of police. The advent of the new anti-terrorism acts means virtually unlimited powers to the police to break-up any assembly of people.
The situation has developed to the point where a change of political party will not halt the decline of democracy.
You cannot protest within a half-mile of parliament without the permission of police. The advent of the new anti-terrorism acts means virtually unlimited powers to the police to break-up any assembly of people.
The situation has developed to the point where a change of political party will not halt the decline of democracy.
The best way to take control over a people and control them
utterly is to take a little of their freedom at a time, to erode
rights by a thousand tiny and almost imperceptible
reductions. In this way the people will not see those rights
and freedoms being removed until past the point at which
these changes cannot be reversed - Adolf Hitler
When government doesn't agree with the people,
it's time to change the people - Bertolt Brecht
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The best way to protest against ANY Govt is at the polling stations. The trouble with this is, we only get that chance every few years and the majority of voters who can be bothered to get off their benefit-saved arses put their crosses next to the same party their fathers and grandfathers voted for instead of using their own brains and making their own minds up!
And thats where Conservative have shot their bolt
They have turned round and stated that they will make the scroungers (they didnt use that term but thats what they meant) do work for their benefit handouts...
They aint gonna get the vote from the scroungers now are they......
Very true but do you really think they even READ manifestos?
I've done a little calculation to show how much we have been screwed in the past 12 months. I hasten to add these are very general figures and could differ slightly depending on where you live but check this lot out!
Fuel has risen from an average of per litre ( unleaded ) in Jan 2006 to a whopping average of per litre in Jan 2008 :shock:
Road tax has increased by an average of 10% depending on the size of your car
Groceries, staple diet stuff such as bread and milk etc, has been reported as now costing 12% more in the last 12 months with the cost of a branded loaf of bread rising from 75p (ave) to :shock:
Insurances up at least 10% yet again ( although my car insurance company who shall remain nameless but has a dog as it's logo ) sent my renewal quote the other week and it had risen by 25%! Needless to say I told him to shove it up his arse and found a better quote.
and don't get me STARTED on council tax!
This lot is, as I said, a very average calculation based on what my own outgoings are. Of course I've had a pay increase last year.............all 2% of it!!! The fact that I didn't actually SEE it until October is beside the point.
Screwed? I may as well just pull my pants down and bend over now! :roll:
Sex God
Quote by Sassy-Seren
The best way to protest against ANY Govt is at the polling stations. The trouble with this is, we only get that chance every few years and the majority of voters who can be bothered to get off their benefit-saved arses put their crosses next to the same party their fathers and grandfathers voted for instead of using their own brains and making their own minds up!
And thats where Conservative have shot their bolt
They have turned round and stated that they will make the scroungers (they didnt use that term but thats what they meant) do work for their benefit handouts...
They aint gonna get the vote from the scroungers now are they......
Very true but do you really think they even READ manifestos?
I dont and I know about it
Quote by Sassy-Seren
Screwed? I may as well just pull my pants down and bend over now! :roll:
If you insist :rascal:
fancy you assuming im not young enough to have a child under 12 ( tounge in cheek) 
lol just been made a granny actually.
i think the whole strategy to get people off benefit is a good one, but why again do they choose to focus on loan parents? because they think society hates the loan parents so will support this action and they are a easy target?
what about all the benefit claiments out there who are couples?
ive recently found out that i will now not be eligable to retire till i am 66 (edit:67), even more years of paying tax.
xx fem
lol just been made a granny actually.i think the whole strategy to get people off benefit is a good one, but why again do they choose to focus on loan parents? because they think society hates the loan parents so will support this action and they are a easy target?
what about all the benefit claiments out there who are couples?
ive recently found out that i will now not be eligable to retire till i am 66 (edit:67), even more years of paying tax.
xx fem
Sex God
Quote by fem_4_taboo
ive recently found out that i will now not be eligable to retire till i am 66, even more years of paying tax.
xx fem
Hense the saying
"Roll on death retirements too far away"
Sex God
Quote by fem_4_taboo
fancy you assuming im not young enough to have a child under 12 ( tounge in cheek)
Honest,
I wasnt assuming anything, 
ops: honest :oops: and you dont look a day over 21 :oops: (this hole is getting too deep, so Im changing the subject) 
As for targeting the lone parents, it is simply because they are, in the eyes of the government, an easy target, just like motorists. We (lone parents and motorists) actually dont have much choice. We pay up (or go to work) or we do something about it at the next election, but policies take so long to change, and governments just moan about what they have inherited from the previous government.
So even if we did get a new government who decided to tax someone else rather than the motorist (or the lone parent) it would be years before anything came to fruition. Not that I am cynical or anything :wink:
Sex God
I'm too tired to comment on whether it's fair but one thing I will said is make sure you don't forget to pay it.
I forgot to pay mine and a nice police man came along and took it off me and made me pay 200 quid to get it back. Poor little car had to spend the night in the pound
Although he was a very good looking policeman and he gave me a lift to work
Although he wasn't much fun and wouldn't put the blue lights on :(
I forgot to pay mine and a nice police man came along and took it off me and made me pay 200 quid to get it back. Poor little car had to spend the night in the pound
Although he was a very good looking policeman and he gave me a lift to work
Although he wasn't much fun and wouldn't put the blue lights on :( Quote by fem_4_taboo
ok im posting this as im avoiding going into town to buy my car tax.
i may be talking without knowing all the facts, but i just dont see that car tax is fair, for several reasons.
we buy a car and pay VAT, we buy petrol, god tax tax and more tax there, we pay for our mots to ensure the car is roadworthy, we pay insurance.
when i say we maybe i should say some, there are hundreds if not thousands of people out there who dont pay any of the above.
what is road tax actually for?? if its about mantaining the roads where does the tax in petrol go?
if its to police the roads, whats council tax for?
and why are there sooo many price bandings for road tax? are they saying a tiny sports car thats hardly ever taken out wears the roads down more? if its about how often we use the roads then surely this tax is recoverable via the already high petrol prices?
if it about how many roads and quality then should we in cornwall pay less as we dont even have a moterway?
sorry so many questions, ill probally be told off now for not being specific and no one knowing what point im actually raising lol
am i the only one who feels there should be a big review on the taxation of owning a car.
i cannot be without a car living in cornwall i need one to work.
xx fem xx
exactly........ this country is screwing us in any way it can.
im so glad i never voted for labour cos now id feel a complete fool if i had .
It should be put on the price of petrol.
To be honest, I have got to the stage now where I feel most people get what they deserve, if there was a programme on about how much tax we pay and it clashed with eastenders, guess what programme most people would watch?.
Remember the fuel protests about 5 yrs ago, everyone agreed with it and the "dunkirk" spirit kicked in, but after about 2 weeks everyone was pleased when the tanker drivers went back to work.
The goverment have got us by the balls and they know it!.
A nation that is unarmed and in debt is a nation that can be controlled.
Rant over.
To be honest, I have got to the stage now where I feel most people get what they deserve, if there was a programme on about how much tax we pay and it clashed with eastenders, guess what programme most people would watch?.
Remember the fuel protests about 5 yrs ago, everyone agreed with it and the "dunkirk" spirit kicked in, but after about 2 weeks everyone was pleased when the tanker drivers went back to work.
The goverment have got us by the balls and they know it!.
A nation that is unarmed and in debt is a nation that can be controlled.
Rant over.
Quote by fem_4_taboo
agree fully sassy,
being in a job where by i have to hold a enhanced CRB i cannot afford to have a criminal conviction, therfore i have to tow the line and pay the dues that the goverment choose to bleed me dry for.
the problem with the political parties at the moment are i cant tell them apart.
im by far a high earner, but just high enough that i pay a 1/4 of my income in tax and NI. and am not entitled to passport benefits.
as a loan parent i would be better off financially not working.
it seems to me their are more people on benefit ( i do not listen to the unemployed satistics cuse thats JUST those on job seekers not benefits) so the ones on the second rung of the ladder re income from employment, are really being hit in the pocket.
i have to have a car to work, i cant afford to not tax insure etc cuse i would then lose my job.
if there were a answer again id love to know it cuse its the law abiding who are constantly being knocked down.
sorry i kind digressed off my own topic there.
xx fem xx
Fem has pretty much said what I was going to say in the budget thread and my 2nd major problem with this country.
So many wankers are happy on the dole and why not, they get free dentists, prescriptions, school meals, child benefit and cheap rent so is it any wonder they have no incentive and the £200 quid they get a month is enough for everything else, their fags, beer and Nike trainers because we pay for everything else through our taxes whilst having to pay with what little else is left for our trips to the dentist etc and to keep the landlord or bank happy. If you earn around 15K, which is millions of people, you no longer have the 10% income tax bracket but pay the same as someone earning nearly double that, you pay duty on your petrol to get you to work along with road tax and you pay the childminder so you can go out to work in the 1st place and add tax on everything else means the actual money taken home is literally just a couple of grand more than the equivalent spent on that work shy happy as larry wanker sitting at home watching their sky tv every hour of the day.
Labour has increased taxes on every aspect of our lives and brought in tens of new ones meaning the ‘everyman’, not the rich people which Maggie looked after, now pays for this country because we are having to pay for the inexplicable waste of billions by them to make things better. See Sassy Sirens post about how much we pay. If you earn about 15k or below you really are better off on the dole (of course morally you don't want to be)
The only point I would disagree with is not being able to tell the parties apart. I refer you to the budget thread and my 1st major problem post with all the sleazy, which is to small a word Labour has given us before you even get to the above and the rest of their policy decisions.
I started my budget thread with I don't mind if you vote Labour as long as you can back up your views as to why but Who ever you vote for and particularly if you have voted Labour in the past, please please please take 1/2 hr to read these posts and think to yourselves whether you really want it to continue by voting for Labour again because their record rreally does speak for itself. (and just to make sure dig out last years pay slips and balance that against not just income tax but all the other taxes you payed and ask yourselves if Labour is still the party of the average working class person)
Sex God
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I started my budget thread with I don't mind if you vote Labour as long as you can back up your views as to why but Who ever you vote for and particularly if you have voted Labour in the past, please please please take 1/2 hr to read these posts and think to yourselves whether you really want it to continue by voting for Labour again because their record rreally does speak for itself. (and just to make sure dig out last years pay slips and balance that against not just income tax but all the other taxes you payed and ask yourselves if Labour is still the party of the average working class person)
It's none of your business and you can't demand that people back up their views as to why they vote for a particular party. Why would anyone care if you mind who they vote for?
I think you're beginning to sound like a party political broadcast and there's no place for that on this site.
now right at the start let me say that I wholeheartedly agree with pretty much everything thats been said re RFL and the rip off tax burden that we are forced to bare
BUT
the RFL does serve one useful purpose
to get one a car must be MOT'ed and insured - thus going some way to making sure that at least the majority of cars on the road are safe(-ish) to drive and that most cars are insured so that in the event of an accident not only will you probably be fairly sure that you won't be to badly injured but that you will eventually receive some financial recompense.
its not an ideal system and there are always those that will try to avoid the obligations of car ownership but the RFL does put a sort of check on major abuse of the responsibilities of owning a car
BUT
the RFL does serve one useful purpose
to get one a car must be MOT'ed and insured - thus going some way to making sure that at least the majority of cars on the road are safe(-ish) to drive and that most cars are insured so that in the event of an accident not only will you probably be fairly sure that you won't be to badly injured but that you will eventually receive some financial recompense.
its not an ideal system and there are always those that will try to avoid the obligations of car ownership but the RFL does put a sort of check on major abuse of the responsibilities of owning a car
they just dont like people having things like v8 dodge ram trucks or supercars/bikes on the road.
So they increase the tax to price them off the roads or put people off buying them.
I feel that you should be able to drive what you want without an unfair some will say that you do not need a 200bhp bike or a 600 bhp pick up but i say im entitled to have what i want.
And if the global warming thing is an issue stop flying planes and stop making war before you tell me what to do.
And what ken is doing in london is only to make is pissed most of the time so do you think he really cares? no one cares about the state of things except the population who work hard to try and get somewhere in life.
So they increase the tax to price them off the roads or put people off buying them.
I feel that you should be able to drive what you want without an unfair some will say that you do not need a 200bhp bike or a 600 bhp pick up but i say im entitled to have what i want.
And if the global warming thing is an issue stop flying planes and stop making war before you tell me what to do.
And what ken is doing in london is only to make is pissed most of the time so do you think he really cares? no one cares about the state of things except the population who work hard to try and get somewhere in life.
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Quote by tyracer
they just dont like people having things like v8 dodge ram trucks or supercars/bikes on the road.
So they increase the tax to price them off the roads or put people off buying them.
Its not just big cars that are affected though and thats where it stinks
Quote by Steve in another thread
And here's something else for ya
For example, the tax on a Vauxhall Astra 16v or Saab 9-3 MY2008 will more than double from £210 to £430. The owner of a Ford Focus 1.6 Duratec will pay 59 per cent more (£170 to £270), and tax on a Citroen Xsara Picasso will rise by 48 per cent to £310.
How many of these cars are the much maligned "Gas Guzzler" that the media and Goverment have whipped us up into a frenzy over
