do we as swingers accept the unacceptable? ll explain, we have been toseveral clubs now and have seen the state of them, e have been on the scene long enough to know what to expect at clubs we haven't visied, to be frank we think on the whole cleanliness is lacking, steam rooms that smell of sweatnot stam, jaccuzis that have body matter washing around in them, torn and dirty play beds, condoms from previous days play and much more, we hear people talk of cost to get in being a major fsctor , I appreciate that to a degree yet think as a whole its a minor factor when it comes to hygien, why do people not vote with their feet, is it because there is too little choice in clubs, are we too tight with the pennies to go up market, or do we just have low standards???
personaly we would be happy to pay extra if that was what was needed to up the standards of clubs, should the club experience not be a wow one, instead of a dirty one, dirty in cleanliness sense of course, the best club we have been to is acceptable but no More the worst to be honest was disgusting, feel fee to let us know where the spitless palaces of sexual liberation are to be found, pm box over there.. how often is your clubs hot tub scrubbed clean?
wrats
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you would think that mallock but in reality I'm not sure that's the case, people go back...
my use of the extra " cash" part is in the hope that if folk paid more they would expect more..
expectation I'm told isn't very high but what the hell, where are the upmarket clubs where clientelle would not be prepred to put up with staff moaning as they wander off to clean up some foul mess in a playroom, an experience I've been told of and one I've had myeslf.. as though this is acceptable, how do you clean exposed foam on ripped beds? regulars at one club tell us all manner of tales but go back, why? maybe we should expect spotless but that isn't the case is it? or am I wrong ? for just a few quid to get in and free to ladies in most cases am I wrong in thinking a bit of shit floating round a jaccuzi is value for money and to be tolerated?
if going up market, ie paying a bit more isn't an answer what is? I can think of only one reason why cleaning and renewing of apparatus isn't done and t
ats a financial one, is that set by the industry/clients standards?
I have been to two clubs.. one for 15 mins.. it was awful tacky. Unclean. Dingy. Dark. horrible. I have never returned. (I paid as a single fem)
I went to another club. Lovely, clean, loads of equipment that was also well maintained. Good music. friendly staff. variety of different rooms which were clean and had proper mattresses with clean, stain free, cotton sheets. (that one was free to me as a single fem)
Does money make it better. I would say no. What makes it a good place to be are the staff and owners having a personal interest in the needs of the customers and running their business accordingly. As all successful businesses achieve their success I believe.
I'm not sure the difference between a tenner and free proves anything, but I conceed there shouldn't be a difference in standards at that level of pricing, do you get what you deserve or what you pay for...or both?
if clubs meet the expected standard currently from us the attendees then I'm on a loser hoping people will want more, I'm sure some do and don't attend clubs on this basis, yet I know many that expect more but go anyway, is that due to lack of choice, the more upmarket club isn't available near enough or do we flock li
e sheep where the masses attend without enough car
Most of the clubs we have visited in the wakefield/Leeds/manchester area we found them to be not nessesarly dirty but more not looked after and looking old, we went to one recently in Bury and some of beds were all ripped with foam hanging out and half cocked repaired with tape, I asked for a cuppa tea ( twoz cold in there) and they didnt even have any sugar....wont be going back to that one!!!
The cleanest one we have been to is the only one where there is a membership fee, I think we will be renuwing ours next time
i have to agree with all the thread so far and do believe that cleanliness in this day and age is of paramount importance to club of which shall not name so i dont get into the 'your promoting your club' argument is inpecibly clean and is checked hourly for waste or mess we have been to many a club and have found this isnt the case every where as previous posters say all i can say to other club owners or hosts is give your clients what they deserve a clean and safe environment for them to swing and please dont consider charging them extra for this facility and to you te punters who pay our wages if this doesnt happen vote with your feet and go to a club run for the right reasons not just out to mak a quick buck . ian a frustrated club owner xxx
offering to pay more for cleanliness is just silly imo as i think the money would not be spend on cleaning the place up
it should be paramount in all clubs for the regular entrance and membership if its not walk away they will soon take the hint
Im with Mal on this one...
If enough people say a place is a hole its going to cost the owners. Reputation is everything and cleanliness is cheap.. No excuses for a dirty club!
Not only would I shame them on here and sites like this one but I would also notify the local environmental health dept and ensure they clean up the act and fast!
Mike x
I think its just a sign of the times, most places have dirty toilets and nobody seems to care.
Maybe clubs are just interested in taking your money.
yes we do run our club as business but it is spotless and clean and safe and we wouldnt dream of charging extra for this .it should be as standard accross the board xxx
but they, the politicians , councilors abd police are there to protect us.. we need the shepherding don't we...hahaha.. your just lucky you go on clean nights, went to a club recently that was filthy, I told the manaement yet they really had no idea.. they had to go look, I'm told they now clean the place, lol they didn't before, well not each time it opened.. theres a saying in a certain area of liverpool frequented bystreet girls, if you wheel spin down there you end up with MORE rubber on your tyres than you had before, this reminded me of one of the areas at this club..
staggy
Personally i think we pay enough to get in club to not have to pay more to have it cleaned, thats not down to cost the manager could nip round and tidy it up if they was bothered about their buisness its just down to lazyness, i do think a lot of people see swingers as people who will shag anywhere and as we know thats not the case, i went to a club once and the bed was, well im not sure how to word it but i wouldnt have got on it, i feel that 'normal' beds in swinging clubs are unacceptable, i mean who wants to get on a bed covered in years worth of dried body fluids on them and if you go later in the night most arnt even dry :shock: i personally would never play in a club that didnt have the PVC type beds, most clubs charge about the same to get in and i have been to some really clean clubs so if they can clean them at what they charge why can't they all?
with this debate going are there any perticular that are regular offenders on this cleanliness,and shouldn't these clubs be named?
read the review section, of course that just mentions the clubs that are happy to be reviewed, i think im right insaying utopia asked for theirs to be removed.., correct me if im wrong
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