Clubbing or Dogging?

29 Nov 2009

With the advent of the credit crunch hitting our disposable income to spend on visiting swinging clubs i wonder how many have taken up Dogging as a cheaper alternative?
The current state of hassle by the Police and other off putting undesireables deters prospective Doggers visiting known locations thus promoting pre organized secret location meets by groups which is in essence free open air Clubbing?
It seems the cost of clubbing like every type of Leisure activity is the prerogative of those who can afford it such as health spas,Gym memberships,Skiing Holidays,et al.
Which way has Swinging,Swung?
dunno

29 Nov 2009

I am not a regular club goer so the credit crunch hasn't adversely affected my club-going. I would go as and when I can afford it and that remains my policy.
I'm not a dogger. I don't like the cold! lol

29 Nov 2009

If we were meant to go dogging, there would be no such things as gearsticks and handbrakes or horns.

29 Nov 2009

Quote by Resonance
If we were meant to go dogging, there would be no such things as gearsticks and handbrakes or horns.

Or children out walking with their parents. I am sure the majority of doggers are responsible but you can see from adverts that the activity goes on at all times of the day. Its one of the things that makes the whole scene seem a bit seedy to me. Its also the one thing that if I were to leave my PC on and someone who shouldn't saw it I really wouldn't want them to see dogging on the screen. Everything we do on this site is legal between consenting adults with the exception of dogging which I imagine can induce a number of different criminal charges.
So clubs for us if we were to go where its nice warm and legal biggrin

29 Nov 2009

Being comparatively new to this scene we have, as yet not attend any social events, munches or clubs, :sad: but do hope to visit one at some stage in the future.
We have not really been dogging as such either, we pre meet all the Ladyâ€™s suitors in a pub before the official meet to check they are real and some chemistry exists between her and him. A couple of these so called pre-meets have ended in a quiet spot, at night, in the countryside, but not in well known dogging spots.

29 Nov 2009

no and no.
if i want people to watch me fuck i'll release a dvd ok?
there is one on the net somewhere, spiteful bitch!

29 Nov 2009

Quote by tyracer
no and no.
if i want people to watch me fuck i'll release a dvd ok?
there is one on the net somewhere, spiteful bitch!

What, no link? :giggle:
Clubbing or Dogging?
Hmm, let me think. Rain turning to sleet and snow on the hills, temperatures down to about 2 deg C and two people at 14-19 stone in a 3 door Yaris. What do YOU think I would be doing?

:rotflmao::rotflmao::rotflmao:

29 Nov 2009

Quote by foxylady2209
a 3 door Yaris

29 Nov 2009

Quote by tweeky
Or children out walking with their parents. I am sure the majority of doggers are responsible but you can see from adverts that the activity goes on at all times of the day. Its one of the things that makes the whole scene seem a bit seedy to me. Its also the one thing that if I were to leave my PC on and someone who shouldn't saw it I really wouldn't want them to see dogging on the screen. Everything we do on this site is legal between consenting adults with the exception of dogging which I imagine can induce a number of different criminal charges.
So clubs for us if we were to go where its nice warm and legal

And safe !!
Each to their own we say, but dogging seems to have so much risk attached to it, by the very nature of what it is all about. Anyone can be passing by - be it a tourist, a new immigrant, non English speaker, non scene person, sex convict - I mean anyone. There may be dogging etiquette but that only applies if you know about it and there are people who just would not care anyway.
If money is the issue, save on petrol and have a party at home !

29 Nov 2009

Quote by Too Hot
Each to their own we say, but dogging seems to have so much risk attached to it, by the very nature of what it is all about. Anyone can be passing by - be it a tourist, a new immigrant, non English speaker, non scene person, sex convict - I mean anyone. There may be dogging etiquette but that only applies if you know about it and there are people who just would not care anyway.

Seriously, why would some of those types of people walking past/stumbling upon/driving past bother you?
I find your post pretty offensive and obtuse.

29 Nov 2009

It seems ironic again that those in glass houses start throwing stones.

29 Nov 2009

I really can't believe there are people slating off the dogging scene...this from people who fuck complete strangers...but that's okay...because they don't fuck them outside or in their cars.

29 Nov 2009

Quote by noladreams
Each to their own we say, but dogging seems to have so much risk attached to it, by the very nature of what it is all about. Anyone can be passing by - be it a tourist, a new immigrant, non English speaker, non scene person, sex convict - I mean anyone. There may be dogging etiquette but that only applies if you know about it and there are people who just would not care anyway.

Seriously, why would some of those types of people walking past/stumbling upon/driving past bother you?
I find your post pretty offensive and obtuse.
We seem to find the same group of people when we visit clubs as you mention finding out dogging lol

We only go to one club now and that is partners and the only reason we go there is because a friend of ours works there and I feel safe. I have been made to feel a lot more uncomfortable and unsafe in clubs that I ever have out dogging.

Quote by Mr-Powers
I really can't believe there are people slating off the dogging scene...this from people who fuck complete strangers...but that's okay...because they don't fuck them outside or in their cars.

And some of us dont even fuck them by the car :lol: but you do make a good point, and I agree cause personally I cant see the difference of playing with a complete stanger in a car park or in a club.
Seriously, its each to their own. If we all liked clubs, then there would be no room and it would soon get pretty boring, same as if we all liked dogging, the car parks would be overflowing.
Personally, we do much prefer dogging than clubs because we are not going out to have sex with the guys we meet (and plus we dont need to arrange it in advance). As for it being cheaper than clubs, well I dont think there is much difference in cost (for a couple who does not have to pay the extortionate single male club fees) as the price of fuel is just as much, and in the cold weather, you often end up keeping the engine running :lol:
If the weather gets too cold for dogging, we have a regular play friend and he just gets dragged indoors whether he wants to or not :lol:

29 Nov 2009

Quote by splendid_
It seems ironic again that those in glass houses start throwing stones.

Explain how we are in a glass house as I fail to see?

Quote by Mr-Powers
I really can't believe there are people slating off the dogging scene...this from people who fuck complete strangers...but that's okay...because they don't fuck them outside or in their cars.

Yup, without possible exposure to minors indoors out of sight and within the law. Unlike the below (nothing personal BTW) Which was post one page one on the dogging board

Quote by Bluenose1873
Hey
26/m looking for some good daytime dogging spots in Peterborough or surrounding area today. If anyone knows of any fems or couples would like to meet, let me know!!!
Regards
Blue
x

Thats my main gripe with dogging. Nothing wrong with the scene if it is used responsibly. Its almost impossible though by its nature not to risk the wrong people seeing whats going on. Other people get offended by me swinging? no problem cus I keep it indoors they dont have to see. My choice I choose to keep mine indoors. Doggers choose to go outdoors but as a parent with kids who may be out walking and stumble by then I reserve my right to an opinion.

29 Nov 2009

Quote by tweeky
It seems ironic again that those in glass houses start throwing stones.

Explain how we are in a glass house as I fail to see?
How many people in your personal and/or professional life know that you swing in clubs or otherwise ?

29 Nov 2009

Glass house...failing to see....have you tried windolene?
>>gets coat<<

29 Nov 2009

Quote by Witchy
Glass house...failing to see....have you tried windolene?
>>gets coat<<

:laughabove:

29 Nov 2009

Quote by noladreams
Each to their own we say, but dogging seems to have so much risk attached to it, by the very nature of what it is all about. Anyone can be passing by - be it a tourist, a new immigrant, non English speaker, non scene person, sex convict - I mean anyone. There may be dogging etiquette but that only applies if you know about it and there are people who just would not care anyway.

Seriously, why would some of those types of people walking past/stumbling upon/driving past bother you?
I find your post pretty offensive and obtuse.
Having been on the receiving end of some very unwanted attention in a car park near Rivington about five years ago(well before we even knew what "dogging" was). I think that I am allowed to make that comment from experience. Two young guys drove into the car park and blocked the exit with their car, they then started jumping all over our car, damaging the bonnet and kicking a mirror off. We drove up the embankment to escape and they followed us up through Belmont driving right up close tailgating and quite literally frightening us to death. That was not us "dogging" that was before we knew what dogging was. We were in the back seat having a bit of a session after a night out.
I wonder often what might have happened had we been out of the car or we had not had the doors locked - we both have nightmares about that. As I said at the beginning of my post - "each to their own." Our experience is that there are weird and dangerous people around and we prefer the controlled environment of a club where if feels much safer.
So do you still find the post pretty offensive and obtuse?
Perhaps it is just not good form on a swinging forum to highlight the fact that that there are perverts and weirdo's out there who have no idea or interest in dogging ettiquette and know that their "victims" would unlikely report any incident to the Police for pretty obvious reasons.
I find your response, ignorant and arrogant - maybe that comes with power? You should certainly be looking for qualification before branding anything as offensive. We were offended Nolad - very offended by a couple of fuck wits who scared us both half to death - what offended you? a posting on a forum?

29 Nov 2009

Quote by noladreams
Each to their own we say, but dogging seems to have so much risk attached to it, by the very nature of what it is all about. Anyone can be passing by - be it a tourist, a new immigrant, non English speaker, non scene person, sex convict - I mean anyone. There may be dogging etiquette but that only applies if you know about it and there are people who just would not care anyway.

Seriously, why would some of those types of people walking past/stumbling upon/driving past bother you?
I find your post pretty offensive and obtuse.
Ah, now I see - "Site Moderator"
Judge, Jury & Executioner
I am going to complain about you - you should know better.
Offensive - If you only knew how it feels to be offended - have you ever been scared? I mean really scared? You have no right at all saying that my/our post was offesive.

29 Nov 2009

Quote by splendid_
It seems ironic again that those in glass houses start throwing stones.

Explain how we are in a glass house as I fail to see?
How many people in your personal and/or professional life know that you swing in clubs or otherwise ?
I'll be honest its a rubbish saying. How many of you here would meet with us if you knew the other stuff I had done in my life? You wouldn't know as I/we only share certain information. The same could be said for everyone maybe or no one maybe? Who knows who has a glass house and who does not.

29 Nov 2009

Quote by Too Hot
Each to their own we say, but dogging seems to have so much risk attached to it, by the very nature of what it is all about. Anyone can be passing by - be it a tourist, a new immigrant, non English speaker, non scene person, sex convict - I mean anyone. There may be dogging etiquette but that only applies if you know about it and there are people who just would not care anyway.

Seriously, why would some of those types of people walking past/stumbling upon/driving past bother you?
I find your post pretty offensive and obtuse.
Having been on the receiving end of some very unwanted attention in a car park near Rivington about five years ago(well before we even knew what "dogging" was). I think that I am allowed to make that comment from experience. Two young guys drove into the car park and blocked the exit with their car, they then started jumping all over our car, damaging the bonnet and kicking a mirror off. We drove up the embankment to escape and they followed us up through Belmont driving right up close tailgating and quite literally frightening us to death. That was not us "dogging" that was before we knew what dogging was. We were in the back seat having a bit of a session after a night out.
I wonder often what might have happened had we been out of the car or we had not had the doors locked - we both have nightmares about that. As I said at the beginning of my post - "each to their own." Our experience is that there are weird and dangerous people around and we prefer the controlled environment of a club where if feels much safer.
So do you still find the post pretty offensive and obtuse?
Perhaps it is just not good form on a swinging forum to highlight the fact that that there are perverts and weirdo's out there who have no idea or interest in dogging ettiquette and know that their "victims" would unlikely report any incident to the Police for pretty obvious reasons.
I find your response, ignorant and arrogant - maybe that comes with power? You should certainly be looking for qualification before branding anything as offensive. We were offended Nolad - very offended by a couple of fuck wits who scared us both half to death - what offended you? a posting on a forum?
I still fail to see what recent immigrants or non-English speakers have to do with this? That was what I found offensive.
I am sorry you have had bad experiences in a dogging spot, but that wasn't what your original post appeared to be alluding to.

29 Nov 2009

Quote by noladreams
Each to their own we say, but dogging seems to have so much risk attached to it, by the very nature of what it is all about. Anyone can be passing by - be it a tourist, a new immigrant, non English speaker, non scene person, sex convict - I mean anyone. There may be dogging etiquette but that only applies if you know about it and there are people who just would not care anyway.

Seriously, why would some of those types of people walking past/stumbling upon/driving past bother you?
I find your post pretty offensive and obtuse.
Having been on the receiving end of some very unwanted attention in a car park near Rivington about five years ago(well before we even knew what "dogging" was). I think that I am allowed to make that comment from experience. Two young guys drove into the car park and blocked the exit with their car, they then started jumping all over our car, damaging the bonnet and kicking a mirror off. We drove up the embankment to escape and they followed us up through Belmont driving right up close tailgating and quite literally frightening us to death. That was not us "dogging" that was before we knew what dogging was. We were in the back seat having a bit of a session after a night out.
I wonder often what might have happened had we been out of the car or we had not had the doors locked - we both have nightmares about that. As I said at the beginning of my post - "each to their own." Our experience is that there are weird and dangerous people around and we prefer the controlled environment of a club where if feels much safer.
So do you still find the post pretty offensive and obtuse?
Perhaps it is just not good form on a swinging forum to highlight the fact that that there are perverts and weirdo's out there who have no idea or interest in dogging ettiquette and know that their "victims" would unlikely report any incident to the Police for pretty obvious reasons.
I find your response, ignorant and arrogant - maybe that comes with power? You should certainly be looking for qualification before branding anything as offensive. We were offended Nolad - very offended by a couple of fuck wits who scared us both half to death - what offended you? a posting on a forum?
I still fail to see what recent immigrants or non-English speakers have to do with this? That was what I found offensive.
I am sorry you have had bad experiences in a dogging spot, but that wasn't what your original post appeared to be alluding to.
It is exactly what we were alluding to, because there is supposedly a "dogging ettiquette" and if one happened to be a recent arrival in this country and happened to have a deviant streak in you you would not really care about the "etiquette." Those who do "dog" mention the "etiquette" all the time - but it would not necessarily apply if you were being targetted by a deviant who did not know about it because they were new here, or did not read about it because they did not speak English. The point being that if you don't know about the etiquette or you dont care about it - you will just do what you want to do.

30 Nov 2009

Not wanting to turn this into a doggers vs non doggers thread here!
I have nothing against the concept of dogging. If I was invited to a dogging event in a private wood surrounded by an electric fence where only doggers would be I would seriously consider attending. The main problem is it happens in public places at various times of day. Thats what my problem is with, not with the act of dogging its self. Ive read about dogging Ive read forum posts about dogging. Some doggers Ive read say they like the thrill of maybe being caught or seen. Great, I dont want to catch or see you so please leave me out of your fantasy.
I am sure there is a good dogging etiquette/guide that a lot of users of this site and doggers in general try to stick to. Sadly though there will always be those that dont stick to it and the fact that the practice takes place in public places means it can never be 100% effective.
Ive no massive axe to grind with the dogging community. I wish in all honesty you could partake in your chosen sexual activity with no risk of being disturbed, getting arrested or offending a passer by whomever that may be. Sadly though by the nature of the activity thats just not possible and is why there will always be debate around this subject.
There have been a lot of posts on the forum of late about tolerance and accepting blah blah. I am all for accepting peoples preferences in the sexual world although I think dogging steps outside of that as there is clearly the risk of your sexual preference effecting others who have no desire to be involved.
Thats me done on this subject. I wish all of you doggers the best of luck. Ive managed to avoid being personally offended for 34 years biggrin

and hope the next 34 will be the same

30 Nov 2009

Quote by Too Hot
And safe !!
Each to their own we say/b], but dogging seems to have so much risk attached to it, by the very nature of what it is all about. Anyone can be passing by - be it a tourist, a new immigrant, non English speaker, non scene person, sex convict - I mean anyone. There may be dogging etiquette but that only applies if you know about it and there are people who just would not care anyway.
If money is the issue, save on petrol and have a party at home !

And before we get accused of starting dogging v anti dogging - Each to their own

30 Nov 2009

I think for those that wish to go dogging, it is like most things, a life style choice. Of course people have to be sensible and care full, just like we do with every thing else we do in life.
There seams to be some extreme examples here, I would look at it like this. People die while driving cars on the road, I have lost good friends in motorcycle accidents but I still travel on the road in car and on bike, I just try to be careful, and take steps to make my self as safe as i can