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Myself and dammie were having a chat, piecing last night together (as you do) and it turns out we both had similar conversations last night with different people.
We were discussing the way that singles sometime aproach couples at socials, munches and clubs.
Both of the people we were talking to were upset about the way they had been blanked/ignored by a single who was interested in their partner.
Now before I get accused of single bloke bashing, I'll point out that 1 conversation was about single blokes, the other conversation was about a single female.
Personally, if a single aproaches me and blanks dammie I just find it really rude and off putting but I wondered what others thought.
Do you think it makes a difference if the couple swing separately as well as a couple?
I'd also like to hear the views of the singles. Maybe they've found that they get approached by only 1 half of the couple? dunno
As I said I'm genuinely interested and not trying to have a dig at anyone so I'm interested in hearing from couples and singles to get a balanced view :thumbup:
Isn't it just simply bad manners and downright rudeness to "blank" anyone in this situation? (Actually in my opinion in any situation - it seems to show a certain kind of arrogance). If one approaches two or more people standing/sitting/talking tegether In my opinion one should introduce yourself to all parties and see where the conversation leads no matter what the setting. (Why should it be any different because you are at a munch or social?) perhaps I'm jjust a little old I can talk for England I am a little shy and awkward in larger social gathereings but I am so looking forward to the opportunity to meting so many of the people I've come know just a little of on this forum. I may forget my own name if asked or even where I left my car keys but I know I will never forget my manners.
We have been to a few munches and have found the singles to be polite and chatty to both of us....we have gone to clubs on a couple of occasions and have found some single guys ignore me but get chatting to the wife....which she soon brings into the conversation that we don't play with singles....they then make their excuses and dissappear....don't blame them really.....i do make a habit of trying to talk to a couple at the same time if the timing is right and always try to bring everyone involved into the conversation.....
It annoys the sh1t out of me if anyone blanks Steve when they approach me.... If they cant be bothered to talk to the both of us then I am not interested...
We also get it in replies to our ad, where they say things like I dont mind if your husband joins in!!... Hello!!! rolleyes Needless to say those replies get deleted straight away...
Shireen
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we only swing together think its best that way no secrets,, same room all time . we never been with single fem on own chance would be nice though biggrin we allways make sure everyone involved so theres no upset feelings or anything with ppl . so everyone has fun all round cool
Well my view as a single is that I have to be interested in both for it to go any further so blanking one of a coupe would just not be within my remit! If I liked one person out of a couple, but not the other - then what would be the point? In a purely social setting , again - I think it would be downright rude to just show interest in one!
Just my POV.
aRSexx :color:
Its bugs the shite out of me. I am part of a couple so the least a person can do is talk to both halves of that couple oblivious to whether we are swinging with them as a couple or alone
Dawn rolleyes
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Well my view as a single is that I have to be interested in both for it to go any further so blanking one of a coupe would just not be within my remit! If I liked one person out of a couple, but not the other - then what would be the point? In a purely social setting , again - I think it would be downright rude to just show interest in one!
Just my POV.
aRSexx :color:

i am with the lovely bow's on this one.. from a single guys point of you i have to like both people before i go any further..........and that means talking to both........
i want to make sure both people definatly want to take it further if we do get along as i have been in situations when ther guy has been keen but the woman hasn't.. and vice versa....so i normally have one on one chats with both to make sure they are both okay.....
I'm with Fabio and Bows on this one. If I don't get on with both partners then it can feel uncomfortable. I also tlak to both - you can never have too many new friends!
All the couples I've met I've talked because I wanted to. I enjoy socialising, and I would not blank one out and talk to the other...that's just damn rude in ANY situation....
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i want to make sure both people definatly want to take it further if we do get along as i have been in situations when ther guy has been keen but the woman hasn't.. and vice versa....so i normally have one on one chats with both to make sure they are both okay.....

I'm with Fabio on this one.
I once met a couple and it was disastrous.
Bad feeling from the start and she was very very nervous. He was telling her what to do all the time and she was obviously not into it.
I managed to have a word with her when he went to the loo. She said he had badgered her in to it and she wasn't at all sure.
I made my excuses and left.
Very embarrassing situation all round, and I felt really sorry for her.
So yes, definitely speak to all concerned first every time.
we get similar replies...too ours........more like..........we/i love your boobs and think your lovely.......hellooooo there aretw of us here ...lol.....probably the same people....we should compare notes lol :P :P
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It annoys the sh1t out of me if anyone blanks Steve when they approach me.... If they cant be bothered to talk to the both of us then I am not interested...
We also get it in replies to our ad, where they say things like I dont mind if your husband joins in!!... Hello!!! rolleyes Needless to say those replies get deleted straight away...
Shireen
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Hard to believe anyone could be so crass as to freeze out one member of a couple.
I recall the first time I got to play with a couple in a club situation I spoke to the guy first in the gents of all places! rolleyes
We just exchanged a few words about the club and so on.
It was easy to join them both later because of that earlier exchange and after a while that led on to our playing together.
Its all about mutual respect in the end and all parties have to feel good about one another for anything else to develop.
Ive not met anyone socialy in any kind of swinging situation. Talking from a personal view point if anyone was to aproach Mrs Tweeky and try and talk to her and ignore me I have to say they would be getting the push off and maybe more if they didnt behave after that. Sorry but there is no excuse for rudeness.
Mr Tweeky
May I ?
Well, I’m going to.
But don’t worry – this isn’t going to be a rant. I just want to put my tupnyworth in.
I didn’t even know she’d started the thread until I read it a couple of hours ago. As she sad, the conversation came about because she’d been chatting with the lady of a couple – about swingle girls, and I with the bloke of a couple, about swingle guys. So I told her about a couple of things that I’m finding it increasingly difficult to tolerate.
I realise that HLB and me are in a minority, in that we were here as singles, then coupled up, then got the whole vanilla relationship thing going on. In the minority, but not unique. But I do think it has a slant on how people approach us. Sorry – her
It’s for that reason I tend to cut some people a bit of slack and haven’t said anything publicly, privately, or even to her until last night. I suppose it’s possible that some don’t see us yet as a “real couple”
Somebody once described me, in public, as “one of the more successful single males” on SH – and that was before she shagged me :shock:
I was flattered. Both by the shags and the comments. But I couldn’t “see” it. Maybe that is the secret of any success I might have had dunno
I’ve never believed “my own publicity” but I do think I have a fairly good insight as to what it’s like being a swingle guy in this lifestyle we chose.
I was buttonholed at the Burton Mini last year and asked about my sexuality.
Why ?
Because someone had seen me extend my arm and touch the male of a couple who was a couple of feet away while I “copped a feel” and snogged his missus. (You know what I'm like redface )
Why ?
In particular because they were “nervous newbies” that had arrived in SH separately, I think it was possibly their first social; and I (selfishly) wanted to gauge his comfort at what was going on. The lady and me had flirted quite heavily in the forum and instant messenger before he arrived on the site.
It’s all a question of manners. Pure and simple.
HLB has asked a couple of questions, so I’m not going to repeat them. I don’t think she’ll get the real answers, but would like to repeat one part of her post ……….
As I said I'm genuinely interested and not trying to have a dig at anyone so I'm interested in hearing from couples and singles to get a balanced view :thumbup:

Any “digs” will hopefully be done privately and quietly.
What I do want to do though, is offer some advice. Like all and any advice – What anyone does with it, is entirely up to the person receiving it – otherwise, it wouldn’t be "advice":thumbup:
If you genuinely want to play with a couple – flirt with and engage the couple
If you want to play with just one of them, but will “tolerate” their partner – WALK AWAY
If you want to play with just one half of the couple – Ask. – I can only speak for myself, but know HLB’s feelings and I doubt many people would take offence at the question. (I certainly believe that they shouldn’t. No matter how often it’s asked – by different people) BUT – have the good grace to accept the answer in the same way it’s given.
Phew – she’s right – I do ramble.
I’ve just re-read this before posting, and am pretty much happy with it. I’ve tried as far as possible to be not gender specific, because I know it cuts both ways and can be “across the board”
BUT – I can see where there is a danger of it being misunderstood, so ……………….
PLEASE don’t take any of it as me/us being “stand offish” I think most of you know that’s not the way I am.
And please – don’t stop the flirting ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !
I think we all know the difference between flirting and moving forward to “playing” wink
And finally Esther ………..
My sexuality ???
The short answer is (apparently) – Camp :shock:
The long answer ?
I would have to refer you to Dale Winton :wink:
it's already been said. it's the height of bad manners, simple as. even if your primary interest, sexually, is in one half of the couple, only engaging with one of them is crass, ignorant, and just plain stupid, all of which are hardly attractive qualities! you're asking both these people to allow you into their bed, and yet dismiss one of them like they're not even there? :doh:
i actually want to engage with both, because for me, i want to feel comfy myself with both of them, and know they're both comfy with me. doing anything but that is a recipe for disaster, and spectacurlarly misses the point!
neil x x x ;)
Well said neil .....Totally agree if u r part of a couple u shud be spoken to as a couple..hight ov bad manners..
OMG ............ where do you even start on this one !
HLB and Dammy .......... I think part of the problem is that people dont see us as "Real Couples" because we all joined the site as something else.......... before turning "Real" :giggle:
It happens to us too .............. Men chat to me and Ignore Steve and women chat to Steve and ignore me ............ we normally just move on as quickly as possible.
IT IS JUST PLAIN RUDE & BAD MANNERS
The majority of the people on the site are great ........... but in all walks of life there are ignorant individuals !
Sam xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
This is not a bashing of singles at all ............. so please dont stamp on me :giggle:
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The majority of the people on the site are great ...........

I think that's what makes it stick out like a sore thumb and even more annoying when it does happen.
.......... Ignores HLB
Dammy over here kiss
:giggle:
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Sam xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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we get similar replies...too ours........more like..........we/i love your boobs and think your lovely.......hellooooo there aretw of us here ...lol.....probably the same people....we should compare notes lol :P :P

Yeah..err sorry about that Mr Ninja :giggle:
I agree with those that have posted, ignorance deserves short shrift..I mean manners are still free rolleyes
Minx x x
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.......... Ignores HLB
Dammy over here kiss
:giggle:
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Sam xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Bollox ! ! ! !
Another fantasy totally ruined
I once approached a stunning Japanese couple in a club one night, and died completely. The Japanese have some very formal social rules which they apply in varying strengths.
Their own particular preference was to watch and listen and then present people with a contact card. Which I didn't know until later in the evening.
But in most occasions I think I was attracted to or by one of the couples' partners and got into a chat. Soon enough the other half appeared and introductions went around, and all order was established. Some of those encounters resulted in a meet.
But sometimes its a fine line and you can get it quite wrong. Its possible to mis-read people and get the timing wrong. Or miss the signs and/or avoid people. So one has to tread carefully.
HLB and Dammy .......... I think part of the problem is that people dont see us as "Real Couples" because we all joined the site as something else..........

blonde, you make a good point!
i'm known as a single guy, and technically, i still am, yet i have a long term partner! confused tricky one to work out i spose, especially since we both play as singles, and as a couple, which means that depending on the context, well . . . well i wouldn't like to work it out.
we're happy to be approached as singles, and we have a hell of a lot of slack to give to people, cos we have to really, knowing it's all about the context people see us in, but if we're together, even where the interest is clearly on a singles basis, well it's nice to get a nod, hello and handshake at least before they try chatting my partner up, and vice versa?
i accept that can make the whole thing a bit of a mine field though? having said that, there are so many complexities at times with the whole swinging thing, you do at least to have a little think about who's in what situation, and respect all parties. if you ain't got that respect, and aforethought, and natural good manners and social skills at a social meet, maybe you need to have a little chat with yaself, and do some thinking? dunno
neil x x x ;)
Although neither of us can think of specfic incidents we do notice that I get chatted to more, or I can arrange meets a lot easier, but tbh we put that down to me being the gobby one and Morbius being the quiet :!: one.
We kept it quiet for a long time that we play as singles as we don't want the rush of single males, but it's been known for a while now and doesn't seem to have affected us.
I can't think of any instances where someone blanked either of us, would find it the height of rudeness if they did.
C x
tonguey and i are engaged and live together but still get counted as two singles!
dont think that will ever change.
i have often wondered if its the " non joint username issue", where unless you call yourself mr and mrs blahblah" then you dont get treated as a cpl?
we only play as a cpl with other couples now but have found that men often assume that i come alone rather than as a package.
i find it extremely rude for someone to come upto me and start flirting and not even aknowledge my partner.
if you have that little respect for our relationship - then i doubt you are the type of person we want to invite to share our intimate times!
it worse in the swinging clubs, how many single men come and try and cop a feel whilst i am actually playing with him is unbelievable!
but thats just down to being our of order in general i guess.
not sure though if its as bad as the guys who go to him, "is it ok for me to /......./ your missus mate?" as though i belong to him and am there to give to whom he chooses! lol
i agree though that it is not just guys who do it.
we have been at a social occasion where a fem who had chatted to him in the chatroom came over and was all over him.
he untangled her and introduced me and she did no more than look me up and down.
strangely enough, i decided a foursome with her and her partner was not on! lol
i guess its all been said, and everyone seems to agree. the truth is that swingers are people and have feelings just like everybody else.
i often go to clubs as a single, and the only way to talk to couples is as a couple. although i suppose talking is a bit alien to some guys who think the women are just sex toys for their pleasure. there are other places that cater for those types but i guess they object to paying for it as well.
sometimes we go as a couple, and we really appreciate it if a single comes to chat to us both - it makes it a conversation rather than just a pickup. and as many others have said, you can still flirt with a couple!
Dammie, you seem to have overlooked one thing
Your a drunken, barrel dancing stripping numptie :giggle:
she's a perfectly formed pocket goddess worship
i know i get a little distracted when she wanders into view :inlove:
I can appreciate how it can be annoying (to say the least) when a single chats away to one half of a couple, when the couple want to be treated as a couple. However, just to throw a different perspective into the pot… that’s not always the case is it?
It must be confusing to some people sometimes as to what is the right thing to do – both for singles and couples if they have been exposed to different situations and behaviours in swinging. To elaborate…
I frequently visit a swinging club – which I have to say has particularly well mannered single guys. On many an occasion I have witnessed the following:
The male of a couple sitting elsewhere so the female becomes more approachable to the guys and then once the female has sorted out the nitty-gritty – back comes the male part of the couple to close the deal (as it were).
The male of the couple expressing “Don’t ask me mate – she does all the choosing”
The female going off to a quiet corner, whilst the male half goes up to the bar to engage in conversation with their perspective target.
One half of the couple moving to talk to a single and the other staying put or moving to talk to someone else.
Away from the club there are a few more situations…
In many an ad there is expressed the need for the women to be happy with the situation first, before even a social meeting.
The amount of couples I have spoken to where only one part of the couple wants to do all of the arranging – I find it strange and I tend to avoid this type of situation, but it is so common.
Situations where they have seen couples circulate separately, flirting and fooling around with others (yet not knowing these people already know each other).
I am sure there must also be situations where someone feels more at easy to chat to one half of a couple as they have conversed (and even flirted) more with that person in the chatroom or wherever. Thus giving a feeling of knowing one of the couple and the other being a stranger.
There may be situations where there is no intention of trying to arrange playing – but there is something they want to talk about with one person who happens to be in a couple. Mainly because the couple have their own individual persona on the forum or in the chatroom and they feel they have some common interest or they just wanted to talk about something they found interesting.
However, personally I fail to see the point in blanking one half of a couple if you want to ‘play’ with the couple. We all have our own personal versions of swinging etiquette – even if there are many common factors, there is usually something different in the small print. We build our own expectations through our own experiences. Some people have had different experiences and some are still trying to learn as they go along – learning from their piers and through observation. Depending on what they have observed – is it any wonder some get it wrong.
Just a final thought…
Would it be as annoying if the female of one couple came over and chatted away to the female of another couple – complimenting her on her dress, asking where she got her shoes from and a load of other girlie chat. Talking about things of little interest to the male?
Very true Polo. There's a lot to be said for the confident, experienced couple. They are quite at ease working a function separately but keep in touch as and when either help or introductions are needed.