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Quote by keeno
How do people feel about the word 'gay' now being used by kids to mean lame or dull?
Far cry from the original meaning of "happy" but that's the thing about language... it evolves over time.
Can you remember back to the times when Scope was The Spastics Society?? Times change and language changes with them.... how many children at the moment use the words that we used as teenagers?
Consolation is our parents probably hated the way we spoke too
Quote by keeno
How do people feel about the word 'gay' now being used by kids to mean lame or dull?
We have 3 male children in this house, gay mens a person likes someone of the same sex. Most often males as it is seen more often that female/female couples in our experience.
It doesn't mean lame or dull
Quote by Dawn_Mids
How do people feel about the word 'gay' now being used by kids to mean lame or dull?
We have 3 male children in this house, gay mens a person likes someone of the same sex. Most often males as it is seen more often that female/female couples in our experience.
It doesn't mean lame or dull
I thought the same thing Dawn!
I promised myself I wouldn't get dragged inot this but....
Almost any word can be turned and used as an insult. The BBC defended Chris Moyles by stating that 'gay' had more than one meaning. My argument would be so has the word cock - cock as in male chicken/animal and cock as in errrrr cock! However I don't think you will hear Terry Wogan calling his next guest a cock do you?
Taking a descriptive word about a minority group and using it as an insult is wrong in my opinion but a sad fact of the world!
And by the way - Chris Moyles is a Lardy Bastard - Lardy as in fat and bastard as in bastard!
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Almost any word can be turned and used as an insult. The BBC defended Chris Moyles by stating that 'gay' had more than one meaning. My argument would be so has the word cock - cock as in male chicken/animal and cock as in errrrr cock! However I don't think you will hear Terry Wogan calling his next guest a cock do you?
Taking a descriptive word about a minority group and using it as an insult is wrong in my opinion but a sad fact of the world!
And by the way - Chris Moyles is a Lardy Bastard - Lardy as in fat and bastard as in bastard!
:giggle:
'gay' in this sense is a 'yoof' slang, chav language, as Keeno says, used to describe something that's lame, dull, 'square' or basically crap 
I spend alot of time with young people and talking/ listening to them is like speaking a whole new language! but I'm learning, innit :lol:
new words I've learnt, for example:
mint = good, wicked
mad = cool, alright, acceptable
innit = added to the end of each sentance for no particular reason than to make things complicated because everything they say then sounds like a question
:lol:
pants = bad, not good, crap
fat = good, cool, funky
squids = quids, money
canna = can't
spankin = new (as in brand spankin new :shock: )
some more will come to me later
sometimes I forget where I am and talk like that to other adults, and they realy dont have a clue what I'm on about :lol: Some of the kids even have their own language, its a very local thing, passed down the generations, in one particular town, now that's fat!
I spend alot of time with young people and talking/ listening to them is like speaking a whole new language! but I'm learning, innit :lol:
new words I've learnt, for example:
mint = good, wicked
mad = cool, alright, acceptable
innit = added to the end of each sentance for no particular reason than to make things complicated because everything they say then sounds like a question
:lol: pants = bad, not good, crap
fat = good, cool, funky
squids = quids, money
canna = can't
spankin = new (as in brand spankin new :shock: )
some more will come to me later
sometimes I forget where I am and talk like that to other adults, and they realy dont have a clue what I'm on about :lol: Some of the kids even have their own language, its a very local thing, passed down the generations, in one particular town, now that's fat!
Sex God
Doesn't bother me either, have heard it used in that sense a lot (sad, boring, dull, stupid etc)- tis just an expression now! Not that I would use it myself...
It's interesting the feeling because obviously at some stage a gay man was a happy man but, dare I say this, the word was hi-jacked by homosexuals for its current usage. So it seems strange to then complain if the word is hi-jacked again by someone else. But heythats just the way it is I guess.
Sex God
Quote by Darkfire
'gay' in this sense is a 'yoof' slang, chav language, as Keeno says, used to describe something that's lame, dull, 'square' or basically crap
I spend alot of time with young people and talking/ listening to them is like speaking a whole new language! but I'm learning, innit :lol:
new words I've learnt, for example:
mint = good, wicked
mad = cool, alright, acceptable
innit = added to the end of each sentance for no particular reason than to make things complicated because everything they say then sounds like a question
pants = bad, not good, crap
fat = good, cool, funky
squids = quids, money
canna = can't
spankin = new (as in brand spankin new :shock: )
some more will come to me later
sometimes I forget where I am and talk like that to other adults, and they realy dont have a clue what I'm on about :lol: Some of the kids even have their own language, its a very local thing, passed down the generations, in one particular town, now that's fat!
I think you'll find that's PHAT with a PH, darkfire!
Honestly, If you're going to be MAD, then you CANNA go around with GAY spelling- SORT IT OUT!!!!!!!!!!
Alright? MINT!
:lol:
Sex God
my little cousin uses it, and i accept that to him gay has nothing whatsoever to with homosexuality ((( i think? ))) he says not anyways? it's meaning seems to have changed, but where words have more than one meaning, doesn't each meaning rub off on the other one?
so if gay has negative connotations meaning something crap, doesn't the gay = homosexual take on a similiar negative connotation? it might be interesting to have a look at these kids attitudes to homosexuality in a few years, and see if they view it in a negative light thanks to the language they used as a kid, cos i think attitudes are always the result of the way in which language is used?
neil x x x ;)
it's meaning seems to have changed, but where words have more than one meaning, doesn't each meaning rub off on the other one? so if gay has negative connotations meaning something crap, doesn't the gay = homosexual take on a similiar negative connotation? it might be interesting to have a look at these kids attitudes to homosexuality in a few years, and see if they view it in a negative light thanks to the language they used as a kid, cos i think attitudes are always the result of the way in which language is used?
neil x x x ;)
Quote by Kiss_Me
Taking a descriptive word about a minority group and using it as an insult is wrong in my opinion but a sad fact of the world!
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When the word "Gay" is being used by "yoofs" to mean poor, sad, something you should be embaressed to admitting liking, I don't think they are making an association between homosexuality and the word Gay.
I can remember as a small child (infant school age) we called a person who was a wimp, cry baby or someone who wouldn't take up a dare "A poof" or a "Sissy", but at that age we didn't have a clue what a homosexual person was. It was only as we got older that we discovered these terms were used by adults as (sometimes) derogitory terms for Gay Men.
Edit after reading Neils post: Nope, it hasn't left me with the impression that all Gay men are cry baby, wimps who won't take up dares lol
After all, a word is only a collection of letters. A word on it's own shouldn't cause offence, it's the manner in which it is used which makes it offensive i.e. said with malice for the purpose to cause offence.
Les x
Sexlightened
Kids are cheeky but I am going to let them get away with it because "gays" stole the word in the first place. Two wrongs don't make a right but you have to laugh at the cheek!
random is a kids word that gets me at the moment - seems to be used for something that happens that kids don't understand but I am happy to be corrected on that.
think of the word as a rugby ball passed from generation to generation? Lots of words change during the aeons and now mean the opposite Word changing is endlessly fascinating as a subject but ultimately it becomes endlessly confusing - does that mean it is better than counting sheep?
and a final question - why do male and female homosexuals have different names - just evolutionary variation?
random is a kids word that gets me at the moment - seems to be used for something that happens that kids don't understand but I am happy to be corrected on that.
think of the word as a rugby ball passed from generation to generation? Lots of words change during the aeons and now mean the opposite Word changing is endlessly fascinating as a subject but ultimately it becomes endlessly confusing - does that mean it is better than counting sheep?
and a final question - why do male and female homosexuals have different names - just evolutionary variation?
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Master of Sex
Well I'm with Celestria on this one which goes in the pile "words change by doing nothing" or he word stays the same and the meaning changes. This has been going on for as long as there has been language and will continue to do so. Some classic examples ar Counterfeit which once meant a legitimate copy and Brave which once implied cowardice...as bravado still does, as they both share the same root.
I wouldn't worry about the changes..it's keeping up with them and not appearing foolish with youngsters that is the hard bit...!!
Read Bill Bryson's "Mother Tongue" if you're bored one evening.
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I wouldn't worry about the changes..it's keeping up with them and not appearing foolish with youngsters that is the hard bit...!!
Read Bill Bryson's "Mother Tongue" if you're bored one evening.
:shock:
If theres one thing Ive learned on this site its that words mean different things to different people. I think words of themselves are neither good/bad, positive/negative but the way I use them, the context and what I mean by it can be.
The same word can be many things and thats the beauty of a living language. As a man who is sexually attracted to other men ive been called a lot of things in my life (often best not to listen) and i have refered to myself using many different words but if there is one thing im sure of there have been many times when I have thought I understood what someone meant and I havent. The meaning of words changes with time but it doesnt bother me what word people use but what they mean and the way they use it and if it didnt I think there would be a lot of upset and angry poeple in this forum.
My brain hurts after that
The same word can be many things and thats the beauty of a living language. As a man who is sexually attracted to other men ive been called a lot of things in my life (often best not to listen) and i have refered to myself using many different words but if there is one thing im sure of there have been many times when I have thought I understood what someone meant and I havent. The meaning of words changes with time but it doesnt bother me what word people use but what they mean and the way they use it and if it didnt I think there would be a lot of upset and angry poeple in this forum.
My brain hurts after that
I think a lot of words have had their meanings changed slightly over the years but it depends how the word is used as to whether it causes offense. For instance, you can call someone a tart as a term of endearment ( as I say to Fektart and Bloke all the time :giggle: ) but it can also be used in a derogatory way. It's not the word you use, it's the manner in which it's meant.
and Feklar, you really ARE a tart
and Feklar, you really ARE a tart
