Depression!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

13 Sep 2007

:karaoke: The drugs don't work, they just make you worse . . . :karaoke:
they do work! they do exactly what they're supposed to? keep people alive until such time as they feel strong enough to do all that Counselling / CBT stuff? ;)
Lost? worship

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Bbw_lover? Dawnie? Bone_Digger? Hornyinslough? Meinnit? kiss

JPSauce? in the nicest possible way, i have to take issue with your statement? pull yourself together? get over it? move on? take more exercise? eat more vegetables? confused

DOOOOO something goddammit, instead of hiding under quilt covers and spending all your time feeling sorry for yourself? :? unfortunately it doesn't work like that? :? if only it were so easy?
Awesomemistress, no it's not strange that you think you're alone. it's one of the symptoms of depression. 1 in 3 of us will experience this, but a lot less than 1 in 3 will talk about it. :? fora like this, and more specific fora, can be useful. PM sent. ;)
neil x x x ;)

13 Sep 2007

Quote by Dawnie
Never leave depression to get worse, sweeping it under the carprt is no the long term answer.

ain't that the truth!

13 Sep 2007

I was going to quote people but then it got to the point where I was going to quote so many I didn't bother :giggle:
Yes drugs work.... I am still here so that's proof enough.... When you are down dont matter what anyone says to you you cant pull yourself out of that black hole.... The helpless feeling is scary, you dont know what to do, where to go and who to talk to.... In fact you dont want to talk to anyone... It's all too familiar for me I am afraid sad

Awesome by posting you have taken the first step..... Reach out to those that understand and you will be climbing that ladder wink

It's a very hard thing to explain to someone who has never suffered but my god when you feel better and able to cope with life do you want to go and kick the shit out of those that told you to "pull yourself together" rolleyes

Big

for everyone

13 Sep 2007

Quote by essex34m

Never leave depression to get worse, sweeping it under the carprt is no the long term answer.

ain't that the truth!
Hello stranger kiss

13 Sep 2007

Quote by Dawnie

Never leave depression to get worse, sweeping it under the carprt is no the long term answer.

ain't that the truth!
Hello stranger kiss

Hello even stranger :kiss:

13 Sep 2007

Quote by essex34m
Hello even stranger

:eeek:
OK I'll let you off with that one :lol2:

14 Sep 2007

Quote by tyracer
no your not the only one.
Im losing my home, everything in my life is coming to a big stop.I was supposed to move to a new place with someone but that has also fallen through.
I dont know what im going to do or where im going to not the only one.
trust me on that.

Hope things work out for you traycer kiss

Awesome :kiss:
And anyone else that wants/needs one :kiss: :kiss:
I just wrote the longest post in history and decided not to disclose it!! confused

:? Realised it was more like a therapy session and I would have depressed you all lol

:lol:
Lets just say, been there an its not good! Take medication if your offered it, it helps...... stay with it till the side effects (if you get them) go away and the meds start to work!
Good luck and all the best
xanaisx

14 Sep 2007

Neil and anais....thanks for your lovely healing kisses...backatcha kiss

Anais, if you need someone to spill to, I have a good listening ear hun biggrin

awesome mistress, take it from me, admitting toy yourself that all is not well is a great first step, then asking for help,and advice as you did on here, is a good follow up.
It DOES make you feel as though you are alone, and it is only when you talk about it, perhaps in a throw away comment, that you realise that more people than you realise have it, and suffer behind closed doors.
Everyone deals with it differently, because it affects people differently, sadness, anger, tiredness, black moods, total lack of interest in anything, crying, fear, anxiety and so on.
There are lots of things that could help you.....one to one counselling, support groups, accupuncture, aromatherapy, medication, yoga, St Johns Wort, its just a case of finding whats right for you, as what works for one may not work for another.
Personally I find medication, and using the forums on SH as a support network works for me lol

But remember, to make sure you give any medication a time to work, as they take a few weeks to kick in, so dont dispair if you dont feel better straight away, just keep popping in here for a boost until they begin to work :D
kisses to all who are hurting right now. :kiss:

14 Sep 2007

please please please be carefull with anti-depressants !
I say this from personal experience, my doctor told me that they are not addictive. after speaking to a different doctor as i was having side effects whilst still taking them ( I almost dropped my daughter down the stairs because of the shakes and feeling of light headedness I had the first time it happened, she was 6 months old!) I was told that I was addicted.
I had been on various A.D.'s for 8 years and the only breaks i had while taking them was whilst i was pregnant with my children. I later found out that you are supposed to have at least a one month break in every year.
it took me a year to wean myself off the tablets and i now refuse to take them again, as i know how addictive they can be. while i was taking them i also asked for psychiatric help and was told by a psychiatrist ( and i quote ) " it's all in your head " loon

and to go and learn to cope with being a mother which had nothing to do with the problems i had. help is not always readily available, but my friends and close family helped get me through it.
I dont mean to be a scaremonger with this but i thought I'd share what I know.
I hope you find a way to deal with this and wish you a speedy recovery as I know how hard it is. kiss

14 Sep 2007

Quote by welshcpl2004
please please please be carefull with anti-depressants !
I say this from personal experience, my doctor told me that they are not addictive. after speaking to a different doctor as i was having side effects whilst still taking them ( I almost dropped my daughter down the stairs because of the shakes and feeling of light headedness I had the first time it happened, she was 6 months old!) I was told that I was addicted.
I had been on various A.D.'s for 8 years and the only breaks i had while taking them was whilst i was pregnant with my children. I later found out that you are supposed to have at least a one month break in every year.
it took me a year to wean myself off the tablets and i now refuse to take them again, as i know how addictive they can be. while i was taking them i also asked for psychiatric help and was told by a psychiatrist ( and i quote ) " it's all in your head " and to go and learn to cope with being a mother which had nothing to do with the problems i had. help is not always readily available, but my friends and close family helped get me through it.
I dont mean to be a scaremonger with this but i thought I'd share what I know.
I hope you find a way to deal with this and wish you a speedy recovery as I know how hard it is.

I was lucky I guess cos my GP kept a close eye on me and tried to get me off them as quickly as possible, but it has to be done gradually.
I now have a packet of St. John's Wort handy which does the trick but isn't addictive.

14 Sep 2007

Quote by jaymar
I come from a "depressive" family. My grandma regularly "took to her bed" when my mam was little with "episodes" they called them. Back then they presumed she was having a breakdown. Now of course, knowing the symptoms she had, she needed more help for depression. Because of being brought up in that environment, my mam became a depressive person also.
Is depression hereditary or is it just that a depressive atmosphere brings you down? Either way, after watching my mam in her depression and nursing her through two suicide attempts I vowed I would do my utmost to try and overcome the illness if I ever had it.
I've had "down" moments in my life, more anxiety than depression. I'm lucky and touch wood I've not had full blown depression. My heart goes out to anyone suffering who suffers as I know first hand the effects it has on people.

I do believe there is a genetic connection... my ex suffers with bipolar which you could virtually set your watch by... after eight years of living with it I became very acute to the signals... little things like him yawning a lot - even though he was hyper told me that in about three days a crash would come and it always did...
His mother and his maternal grandmother suffered the same... *sigh* some have good genes and some don't... fantastically intelligent family though... in the circumstances though that is could be more of a burden than a bonus...

15 Sep 2007

As some of you who read the forums have maybe noticed, my poems on the poetry corner are quite dark, and thats because at the time i was seriously ill.. I didnt know i was depressed, as i had it so long to me it was normality... when i started to feel 'normal' 5 years ago.. that felt strange... i say my life began 5 years ago.. but only after i hit rock bottom and took a massive fatal overdose, did i start to claw back my life... i woke up not dead three days after and never took another tablet again.... it was a wake up call.. and i fight every day to never be like that... Il never be free from depression , i still have black days... but i am self aware.. ive accepted its a life time illness, and i know what triggers me .. so i avoid them.. if i know im hitting a wall i plan for it... cos i cant stop it but i can make it as quick as possible...the only way i can pick up after falling down is to retreat not fully.. but to a quiet place in my mind and have a word with my head.. and remember that life could be alot worse... i could of not woken up..... and we never get given anything that we cant handle.... its like a mantra..... some times it works for me and sometimes i sob but either way it lasts for only hours now instead of weeks..... and with my past, most people would of tried again what i did.. but im proud of myself.. that no matter what i get up.. i get dressed.. i put on my lippy and stick two fingers up to the world and do my thing now.....
But during the depression at its worst i was phsycosis... i was horrendously ill.. and i dont even recognise myself in that person anymore.... i was so sad... but now.... Well.. now im happy, and if i ccan get over whats gone on in my life.. then i can certainly support or help anyone else going through the same trauma......
If anyone would like any help or hugs or loves.. please come to me.. cant kid a kidder, or fool a fooler, have to of lived it to spot it......
HUGS ARE FREE FROM ME TO THEE!!!!!!

15 Sep 2007

Quote by welshcpl2004
please please please be carefull with anti-depressants !
I say this from personal experience, my doctor told me that they are not addictive.

15 Sep 2007

Quote by hornyinslough
please please please be carefull with anti-depressants !
I say this from personal experience, my doctor told me that they are not addictive.

There is one particular drug that you need to be careful of if you're on it - venlafaxine. The drug didn't work for me so I came off it and had terrible side effects from the withdrawal. It's a nightmare to come off, in fact my friend was told it was worse than coming off crack :shock:
REALLY :eeek: :eeek: Thats the one I'm on, quite a high dose too (225mg a day), thanks for the warning if I ever do get off it, I will know to be careful!!
Thank you hun kiss

15 Sep 2007

I was on seroxat and became VERY addicted to them, and like I said I had withdrawal symptoms whilst I was still taking them. All I can say is if you start feeling weird in any way wile you're taking A.D.'s speak to a doctor, the symptoms I had weren't even listed in the side effect list that came with the tabs !

15 Sep 2007

Quote by FurbyHug
As some of you who read the forums have maybe noticed, my poems on the poetry corner are quite dark, and thats because at the time i was seriously ill.. I didnt know i was depressed, as i had it so long to me it was normality... when i started to feel 'normal' 5 years ago.. that felt strange... i say my life began 5 years ago.. but only after i hit rock bottom and took a massive fatal overdose, did i start to claw back my life... i woke up not dead three days after and never took another tablet again.... it was a wake up call.. and i fight every day to never be like that... Il never be free from depression , i still have black days... but i am self aware.. ive accepted its a life time illness, and i know what triggers me .. so i avoid them.. if i know im hitting a wall i plan for it... cos i cant stop it but i can make it as quick as possible...the only way i can pick up after falling down is to retreat not fully.. but to a quiet place in my mind and have a word with my head.. and remember that life could be alot worse... i could of not woken up..... and we never get given anything that we cant handle.... its like a mantra..... some times it works for me and sometimes i sob but either way it lasts for only hours now instead of weeks..... and with my past, most people would of tried again what i did.. but im proud of myself.. that no matter what i get up.. i get dressed.. i put on my lippy and stick two fingers up to the world and do my thing now.....
But during the depression at its worst i was phsycosis... i was horrendously ill.. and i dont even recognise myself in that person anymore.... i was so sad... but now.... Well.. now im happy, and if i ccan get over whats gone on in my life.. then i can certainly support or help anyone else going through the same trauma......
If anyone would like any help or hugs or loves.. please come to me.. cant kid a kidder, or fool a fooler, have to of lived it to spot it......
HUGS ARE FREE FROM ME TO THEE!!!!!!

Oh Furby,you made me cry,not cos im sad yet cos i know,I KNOW WHAT ITS LIKE!!!!!!!!!!!!! ,i dont know what else to say!!!! You are more honest than i,I so respect you for that,I was ment to go to camp this weekend and i couldnt go cos i self harmed two weeks ago cos i was so isolated,it was my only release,something i havent done for five arms are a mess at the mo so chams is out too. sad

Furby i hardly know you at all ,yet i am sending so much Love And Light To you. From My Heart Thankyou For Sharing. kiss

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15 Sep 2007

We are very similar then .... i used to self harm i dont anymore..until im in a pit, then i pick..i dont cut.. but i pick at my skin on places that people wont see either stomach or boobs.. funilly enough the two places i hate.. that then stops me from meeting anyone cos i wouldnt want to shame myself infront of people an show a tummy with little scabs over it or boobs that are marked an scarred.. so it stops me from going to socials, or meeting anyone new.. i am my worst enememy sometimes, im the one thats stops me enjoying my life now.. not anyone else... none of the old influences are in mylife... ive moved so far from eveyrone that had a hand in my past... and yet now.. its me thats sabotaguing my life.... its bizarre.. once i get past that hic cup.. i think i will be nearly normal!!!!!!!!!!!
lmao!!!! whatever normal is... and to be honest... when i get there will i like it.. ????? will i be able to write without the darker side of me???? who know.s.. but i know im loved by my friends.. and i know that eventually someone will love me for me.. 100% and il be someones special something ..... someday!
love an light.. blessed be.x

15 Sep 2007

I was ment to go to camp this weekend and i couldnt go cos i self harmed two weeks ago cos i was so isolated,it was my only release,something i havent done for five arms are a mess at the mo so chams is out too. sad

Furby i hardly know you at all ,yet i am sending so much Love And Light To you. From My Heart Thankyou For Sharing. kiss

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One thing you must NOT DO.. is beat yourself up over a slip.. a blip.. a hic cup... its not a sign your falling back.. its just a little set back.. dont panic if you have harmed.. just heal.. and figure out why this time...? what is it that made you feel this was the time to repeat...? if you can understand what triggered it.. you can learn fromm it..forgive yourself.. and let it go darling.. YOU ARE LOVED.. And you are WORTHY of it... you might not feel it.. BUT YOU ARE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
love an light darling.x

16 Sep 2007

I have been suffering with bouts of depression for a couple of years and also anxiety around people, this site isnt the best place for me to visit sometimes as i see all these "beautiful people" who exude confidence on the site and it makes me hate myself more, that's why though ive been a member a fairly long while I dont visit to often.
It's easy to feel alone even in a crowd sometimes. Reality is your not the only one suffering.

16 Sep 2007

Quote by easyease
I have been suffering with bouts of depression for a couple of years and also anxiety around people, this site isnt the best place for me to visit sometimes as i see all these "beautiful people" who exude confidence on the site and it makes me hate myself more, that's why though ive been a member a fairly long while I dont visit to often.
It's easy to feel alone even in a crowd sometimes. Reality is your not the only one suffering.

Someone said when i was at the last social they thought i was too good for them. That i was unaprochable. They thought i was a snob, me a snob , biggrin

what a joke, i was brought up on a rough council estate , with a dad who mentaly abused me.I was bullied at school to the point of being suicidle, been beaten by more ex's that i care to think about. I have panic attacks that make me not want to go out the point here is this, What you see on the outside of ppl isnt always whats going on. This site has kept me sain,I've found ppl that care, i mean really really stay away too long next time. )))))))))) HUGS ((((((((((((((( Merlleena. xxxxxx

16 Sep 2007

Quote by FurbyHug
I was ment to go to camp this weekend and i couldnt go cos i self harmed two weeks ago cos i was so isolated,it was my only release,something i havent done for five arms are a mess at the mo so chams is out too. Furby i hardly know you at all ,yet i am sending so much Love And Light To you. From My Heart Thankyou For Sharing. :kiss: :kiss: :kiss:

One thing you must NOT DO.. is beat yourself up over a slip.. a blip.. a hic cup... its not a sign your falling back.. its just a little set back.. dont panic if you have harmed.. just heal.. and figure out why this time...? what is it that made you feel this was the time to repeat...? if you can understand what triggered it.. you can learn fromm it..forgive yourself.. and let it go darling.. YOU ARE LOVED.. And you are WORTHY of it... you might not feel it.. BUT YOU ARE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
love an light darling.x Cant wait to meet you and give you a big HUG!!!!!!!! Nothing sexual (altho i do think your Gorgeous) lol

:lol: :lol: Yet a Hug From my Heart,From My soul!!!! Love And Light Honey. :kiss: :kiss: :kiss:

18 Sep 2007

Quote by Bonedigger
please please please be carefull with anti-depressants !
I say this from personal experience, my doctor told me that they are not addictive.

Bonedigger? the operative words in hornyinslough's post were "The drug didn't work for me so I came off it." that's not to say it won't work for you, or that coming off it will be worse than coming off Crack! ;)
saeroxat has a reputation as a suicide inducing, massively physically addicting A/D. OTOH, it has been a life saver for many, many people. prozac? it was like a light going on first time i went on it. sun came out, i went to uni, managed to really turn my life around for a while. second time on it, i suffered from massive panic attacks, and spiralled down into a place where i actually did try to kill myself. i then switched to citalopram, and then cipralex? they kept me going until such time as the side-effects, which i felt were eventually a contributing factor to my depression, rather than an alleviating one, outweighed my real need for them any more, at which point i stopped taking them, and haven't looked back since. going on meds was kinda harsh, as was coming off them, but hey, i'm still alive! biggrin

;)
there are no 'good' and 'bad' drugs, per se. there are drugs that work for us personally, at the time, depending on our particular physical, emotional, and chemical make-up, and drugs that don't. if they're not working, if you have concerns, talk to a doctor, switch to a different one.
this is why i am reluctant to give medical advice. support? general togetherness? shared experience? great. fantastic! smile

medical advice OTOH comes from a GP. not an interweb forum.
neil x x x ;)
p.s. furbyhug? fantastic post. yes. absolutely! thank you for that! :) :kiss:

18 Sep 2007

hello neilincosmetics................ biggrin

18 Sep 2007

neil, im happy that you are in a good place right now, well done, its a testament to your spirit that you could get yourself to where you are now.
In regards to the drug venlafaxine, it works fantastically for me, so I am happy with my lot at the minute (must say that i had that 'light going on feeling' when I first took prozac. sadly it lost its effectiveness.
But I agree with you, different strokes for different folks....I personally couldnt hack counselling, I felt like I couldnt unburden myself fully to my counsellor because I felt like my problems werent significant enough, and that I had no right to be feeling the way I did.
But thats not to say that its not brilliant for others. Whomsoever is feeling that they are in a dark or bad place, I just send them lots of hugs and healing vibes biggrin

:therethere:

18 Sep 2007

Ok worried here, just had my meds changed from Venlafaxine (Coming of them was so bad the doc gave me valium for two weeks.) to Cipralax. Also take Quietapine Mild anti Psychotic helps with panic drugs and you could shake me like a rain maker ffs. Have to laugh or i'll cry. Love And Light To You All. Merl xxxxxxxxxxxx

19 Sep 2007

i just want to say how helpfull a thread like this can be.... it offers support advice an personal experiences, but above all .. it shows that we are not alone.. in the big bad world of our own minds... thats the most important thing that ive got from this.. not the drug advice.. leave that tothe docs, there supposed to know what there doing, but the fact that what ever were feeling, what ever it seems like, no matter how bad it gets, you can see that someone feels the same or felt the same or got over the same.... its a comforting feeling to know your normal... and that its ok to feel bad........
ITS NORMAL....... AND ITS OK TO FEEL BAD!!!!!!... how cool is that.... forgive yourself, love yourself.. and BE YOURSELF.........
love.. hugs... and

19 Sep 2007

Quote by FurbyHug
i just want to say how helpfull a thread like this can be.... it offers support advice an personal experiences, but above all .. it shows that we are not alone.. in the big bad world of our own minds... thats the most important thing that ive got from this.. not the drug advice.. leave that tothe docs, there supposed to know what there doing, but the fact that what ever were feeling, what ever it seems like, no matter how bad it gets, you can see that someone feels the same or felt the same or got over the same.... its a comforting feeling to know your normal... and that its ok to feel bad........
ITS NORMAL....... AND ITS OK TO FEEL BAD!!!!!!... how cool is that.... forgive yourself, love yourself.. and BE YOURSELF.........
love.. hugs... and

:inlove: :rose: :inlove: For a very special lady called Furby. kiss

:kiss: :kiss: :kiss:

19 Sep 2007

Quote by Awesomemistress
i just want to say how helpfull a thread like this can be.... it offers support advice an personal experiences, but above all .. it shows that we are not alone.. in the big bad world of our own minds... thats the most important thing that ive got from this.. not the drug advice.. leave that tothe docs, there supposed to know what there doing, but the fact that what ever were feeling, what ever it seems like, no matter how bad it gets, you can see that someone feels the same or felt the same or got over the same.... its a comforting feeling to know your normal... and that its ok to feel bad........
ITS NORMAL....... AND ITS OK TO FEEL BAD!!!!!!... how cool is that.... forgive yourself, love yourself.. and BE YOURSELF.........
love.. hugs... and

:inlove: :rose: :inlove: For a very special lady called Furby. kiss

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:kiss: Kiss better both of you xx:kiss:

19 Sep 2007

isnt it nice to actually know that you are NOT alone.
:inlove:

19 Sep 2007

Wow, this a hard sunject on a site such as this as people always run a mile screaming "watch out for the nutter" I have suffered from PTSD (post traumatice stress disorder) since early teens and also major bouts of extreme depression (see now ya all know why I disappear of face of the earth every now and then) :shock: Everyone is different with what works for them, out of all the pills and ECT and stuff the best thing for me is my hub (yeah I know puke...sorry). Try not to give into temptation to hide away and not speak to people as that is my trick to become a hermit...talking is a major help even if you spout crap like I am here for hours on end lol

as everyone else has mentioned my pm is available if you need to cry/swear/beat up someone who gets ya.
luv n hugs
shani