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Hey there all!
I'd be interested in hearing your views, advise and opinions on this one. Especially if there are people out there who are in the same situation.
I'm a disabled guy of 25 years of age living in South Wales. I'm not dependant on a wheelchair as I can walk with the aid of crutches but normally use one when I'm socialising. Now my problem is this - I like girls (who doesn't) and often end up having a cuddle on the dance floor. So in that sense I've got to 1st base. However, when I approach the subject or make my move for 2nd base (not as in 'wanna shag') I never get anywhere. I do get the feeling some girls are afraid of the whole disabled thing. Which is understandable in a way. Hey I might be the same way if it was the other way around.
Ok so here's the thing - I've been walking around with a nelsons column for the last few months with no one to dismantle it - So I've been thinking of late of turning to a florence nightingale type person whom might help me with my problem - in essence a prostitute. Not one which you might pick up down a dark and seedy ally but a high class one you might find advertising themselves as escorts.
I'm not sure whether I'm not doing the right thing or not? Does my yearning for attention justify me turning to a prostitute? Is this a dark and seedy world I may be fuelling?
Of course I need to find myself a nice girlfriend who'll be able to help me but I'm not sure I can wait that long! Whats a guy gotta do!
Ps If there are any nice gal's South Wales out there who want to help me out of this sticky jam feel free to message me.
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i worked in a job where a lot of employees had minor disabilities, which I did not notice for several weeks. They were very good at disguising it. It never occurred to me to look.
I occasionally vist professional women. And that is exactly what most of them are. Very capable in dealing with a wide variety of people. A disabiity to them is nothing.
They dislike people who don't care or make an effort. Otherwise they'll accept most people. So don't wait, get along there and find someone who you like and can share some joy with.
I had a bad accident 8 years ago thats left me with 2 squished disks at the base of my spine , a dodgy cruiciate knee ligament and now a dodgy ( as in small bit of broken bones foating about in it !! ) ankle. I was married at the time and due to the "pain killers" I was on I ended up with some pretty serious mood swings , depression and anger at the world ( the "why me" syndrome ).
This meant 3 1/2 years later my marriage breaking down. Now I have to use walking sticks , i've got permanent damage in my sciatic nerve which means pins'n'needles in both legs from halfway from my hip to my knees right to my toes. This does make things difficult since i've got loads and loads of good female mates I used to find it difficult getting past 1st base too.
What sorted me out was accepting that i'll never get better unless they can operate on me one day and saying to myself "i'm ME regardless of my fecked up body". Now I find that with my self confidence back that women are more willing to look past my disability , see me for who I am not what's wrong with me and i've had lots of fun since.
I make fun of myself all the time , tell people off for trying to give me sympathy ( well I might have problems but there's a LOT of other people out there with shed loads more problems than I have ) and try to keep smiling ( can be difficult but worth it in the end ).
I find that women are far more likely to look past any disabilities anyone has if they are confident , make them laugh and never go for the sympathy vote. I have a bloody good mate called Douggie in Peterhead who was born paraplegic and has always had to use a wheelchair. He is a right character , a cheeky SoB at times and gets more shags than 95% of his able bodied mates do lol.
Stick in there mate , relax , have a laugh and a joke , don't take life seriously and you'll soon find that you can get past 1st base.
All the best , if you need a chat about anything to do with your disability then PM me. That goes for anyone that has physical problems , sometimes a chat with someone in the same boat can make a world of difference.
Davie
I saw a beautiful film recently on DVD called 'Inside I am Dancing'. It is the story of two disabled young Irish men. The film is brilliant yet it never got the critics acclaim because of its subject. Many people are naturally scared of things they cannot understand and disability is one of these things.
You are asking whether it would be wrong to turn to pros for some love and understanding. No honey, it is not wrong. Women who do this kind of job have a lot of love in their hearts for their fellow human beings and a lot of understanding. So what if you pay for their time? Wouldn't you wine and dine a girlfriend and buy her flowers and chocolates and little presents? At least with a pro you do not have to jump through a hundred loops to get to the same result. Just be careful who you choose. Make sure she is clean, both physically and mentally, and always play it safe. Maybe once you get your self confidence back, you will be able to pull normal girls at the pub or park.
Hope you find what you seek smile
Hi johnny, I was interested to read your post as I'm in a somewhat different, but related situation. My partner has a chronic neurological condition, that means we're lucky to get it on more than once every three months or so, and even then we don't normally manage more than a bit of a fumble and a quickie (not to mention all the times we try and it ends up impossible, leaving me with a bad case of blue balls).
I have in the past considered paying for sex, but decided against for two reasons: a gut instinct that this was something I didn't really want to do, and the practical point that it wasn't a viable long-term solution from a financial perspective. I don't have any moral high horse about sex workers, I just felt that I wouldn't enjoy it if I knew it was bought rather than given freely.
Hey guys - thanks for sharing your experiences and your advise so far - its been valuable, truely - but keep them coming as its both helpful to me and others who might be in the same situation biggrin
ooo - a chance to repeat myself! lol
JBW, you have to make your choices in life, and live with the consequences.
If all you want is your Nelson's column dismantled, then by all means go to a prostitute, that is what they are there for. However, if you want having your column dismantled to mean something, then stick to self gratification until the opportunity for something more arrives.
lhk
Kat
Just a thought, but do you notice a different reaction from people when you're using crutches as opposed to a wheelchair?
I can understand you preferring to use a chair when socialising, I've used crutches in the past and know how little care people take around them (then again, I was a schoolboy at the time - and they took more care after I belted the class toerag with one after he tried to steal it from me for a laugh :twisted: ).
Hey KK & BHD.
Firstly Kitkat; with regards to having my nelsons column being dismantled (a strange anology when I look back on it) its been a 'long long' time since anyways even had a chip away at it. EIGHT years! So I'm talking years of pent up sexual dissatisfaction. Hence my yearning. As everyone seems to be pretty open on SW I guess I should be also. Self gratification isn't something I'm blessed with unfortunately after my accident. A spinal cord accident has left me with lesser sensation from the chest down so sex for me isn't about the climax itself (despite the fact I can still stand to attention when called upon); its more about the satisfaction of being able to pleasure the partner. Hearing the yearn's of pleasure and facial reactions when I touch the right spots. Does that make sense? I do want the dismantling to mean something but at the moment I'm so tightly wound I just need that release - hence the call girl option.
Secondly BHD; Unfortunately I have a taste for the odd alcoholic beverage - hence my requirement to use the wheels when socialising. If I wasn't partial to the liquer I'd more often than not use my crutches when socialising. In answer to your question I do find peoples recations differ when I'm in a wheelchair - not in a distasteful way but in a way 'some' (and I emphasise some as they're in the minority) find it difficult to look past the wheelchair. Especially in terms of realising disabled peop's have sexual needs too (hence the thread title). Please don't think I'm bitter about being in a wheelchair and resent able bodied peop's as I'm not. Its just I've been this way long enough to pick up on these things.
confused Your needs do sound quite specialist then - not physically, or emotionally, but the bit in between the two. Would a prostitute be able to convince you that they were really enjoying it??
On the continent, attitudes towards paid sex are much more evolved - you would be able to find someone who would genuinely enjoy having sex with you, and would be bothered enough to tell you 'a bit to the left would be good' - just to make sure you did hit the right spots.
In the UK, it would be much harder to track someone down who could do that for you.
lhk
Kat
Your right of course KK. ITs a difficult one I know and I've been wrestling with the idea of asking an escort to come and visit for some time. I've been in contact with a few and we've communicated via email. I'm been very open with them and made them aware of my situation. A couple of which say they'd never discriminate in any way (ok money's money no matter who the client is) and that they have other disabled clients.
Hi Johnboy xxxx
I found your thread extremely thought provoking and yet I feel unuable to answer the questions that you ask!!
Firstly,you question whether it is wise to employ the attentions of a prostitute and my gut reaction was to say' No,go for it' BUT then I read your reply to KK and I can see that what you really want is a relationship where you can both give and take sexual enjoyment,so now i feel that I would advise 'No,wait for the right girl'!!
But the question I find most compelling is that of 'Why won't women let me get close?Is it because I'm disabled?'.......you only mention meeting these women in the world of the pub/club and let's be honest not many of them are out looking for a meaningful relationship are they?!I cannot really put my hand on my heart and say it has nothing to do with your disability but I sincerely doubt that is the appear to be an intelligent,articulate and caring guy.....you'll probably find they presume you're already 'taken' as most of the good guys are!!
I guess I'm not really being that helpful am I??? Sorry JB xx My main point for writing this babble was to say that I sincerely hope you find what you truly need as I think you deserve it xxxx Good luck in whatever you choose to do and whatever you decide just be careful.
Loadsa luv'n'stuff,Cuddles xxxx wink
Quote by Tania
I saw a beautiful film recently on DVD called 'Inside I am Dancing'. It is the story of two disabled young Irish men. The film is brilliant yet it never got the critics acclaim because of its subject. Many people are naturally scared of things they cannot understand and disability is one of these things.

I have seen that film too Tania (highly recommended) and agree with your point about people being scared of things they don't understand. However, as one with an 'invisible' disability, I would say that a disability is only what you make of it and your success as an individual is reliant on how you 'educate' others.
Believe me, I know this is no easy task and I expect that JBW and others have much to say on the subject.
However, getting back to JBW - all I can say mate is, however old you are wink and whatever you feel you need to make your life whole - go with your gut instincts and don't let the b******* grind you down!!! lol :lol:
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Unfortunately I have a taste for the odd alcoholic beverage - hence my requirement to use the wheels when socialising. If I wasn't partial to the liquer I'd more often than not use my crutches when socialising. In answer to your question I do find peoples recations differ when I'm in a wheelchair - not in a distasteful way but in a way 'some' (and I emphasise some as they're in the minority) find it difficult to look past the wheelchair. Especially in terms of realising disabled peop's have sexual needs too (hence the thread title). Please don't think I'm bitter about being in a wheelchair and resent able bodied peop's as I'm not. Its just I've been this way long enough to pick up on these things.

Fair enough mate, I didn't mean to imply anything, I was genuinely interested in what the answer would be (though it is exactly what I expected you to say).
I can see that booze and crutches don't make for a good combination if you want to avoid UDIs (Unidentified Drinking Injuries), I've done enough damage to myself in the past whilst nominally in full control of my limbs - the best is probably the huge dent running the width of my arse cheeks, after I slipped at the top of a steep staircase in a pub, bounced once on my arse halfway down and landed in a crumpled heap at the bottom. It's still there 12 years later!
1. You're living in South Wales, either the valleys or the cities, and they're not the most enlightened of people down there (before you bitch me, I'm from there :P ) so a disability will be a greater hindrance for Victory.
2. If you're going to try and pull in a nightclub then to be blunt, and possibly offensive, you're going after the wrong sort of woman for your predicament.
3. If you find yourself a g/f and someone who can see past your disability then you'll get your column polished a lot more often.
But I would advise against going to a prostitute as, it's been said before, it's a big drain on your finances and there's no knowing what you could catch.
Don't be tempted by prostitutes in my opinion.
Keep your self-esteem high and when you do meet somebody who can see past your disability and loves you for who you are, you can be sure that they love you for you, not for other motives. And thats an incredibly important thing to have to your advantage in the long term.
Wish you all the luck in the world - great post and an eye-opening one as well. biggrin
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I would just sugest that you dont let anyone push you around
please take that the way it is intended, not disrepectful, but a joke, in no way meant to belittle anyone in a wheel chair or disabled.
I saw a very moving documentary some years ago about a guy with similar issues to you. After much debate wih his friends and within himself he decided to go to the Netherlands. Not only did this get him around the seedy/sordid side of prostitution in this country (because of our blinkered attitudes and legal restrictions) but his researches had located a agency which specialised in disabilities. And of course there isn't a health risk because of their institutionalised checks.
Clearly the cameras were excluded from the room but afterwards he seemed to be a very happy bunny indeed!!!
Jezzay.
I'm just trying to reconcile a previous post you made with this thread!
Johnboywalton
PostPosted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 11:01 pm
I was playing a round of golf by myself last summer - the night before I'd hooked up with an old girlfriend - just a snog in a nightclub nothing more - I couldn't stop thinking about her as she had the sweetest ass - by the time I'd got to the 10th hole I was feeling incredibly horny so I had a wank on the 10th green - was shitting myself from start to finish but a mans got to do what a mans got to do!

Thought that self-relief wasn't an option?
rolleyes :roll:
Quote by jezzay
I saw a very moving documentary some years ago about a guy with similar issues to you. After much debate wih his friends and within himself he decided to go to the Netherlands. Not only did this get him around the seedy/sordid side of prostitution in this country (because of our blinkered attitudes and legal restrictions) but his researches had located a agency which specialised in disabilities. Clearly the cameras were excluded from the room but afterwards he seemed to be a very happy bunny indeed!!!
Jezzay.

And its flat!
see disclaimer before
Quote by Jags
I'm just trying to reconcile a previous post you made with this thread!
Johnboywalton
PostPosted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 11:01 pm
I was playing a round of golf by myself last summer - the night before I'd hooked up with an old girlfriend - just a snog in a nightclub nothing more - I couldn't stop thinking about her as she had the sweetest ass - by the time I'd got to the 10th hole I was feeling incredibly horny so I had a wank on the 10th green - was shitting myself from start to finish but a mans got to do what a mans got to do!

Thought that self-relief wasn't an option?
rolleyes :roll:
In reply to that post - I guess I'm that inadequate about my current situation I felt a need to write a make belief scenario that would make me sound 'more normal'. Extremely sad I know. Since writing this thread I've come to understand how understanding and caring people whom use the forum are, so for that I appologise. I don't think I'd be the 1st to fantasise on SH (which doesn't make it right), but let me be clear that'll be the last.
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I'm just trying to reconcile a previous post you made with this thread!
Johnboywalton
PostPosted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 11:01 pm
I was playing a round of golf by myself last summer - the night before I'd hooked up with an old girlfriend - just a snog in a nightclub nothing more - I couldn't stop thinking about her as she had the sweetest ass - by the time I'd got to the 10th hole I was feeling incredibly horny so I had a wank on the 10th green - was shitting myself from start to finish but a mans got to do what a mans got to do!

Thought that self-relief wasn't an option?
rolleyes :roll:
In reply to that post - I guess I'm that inadequate about my current situation I felt a need to write a make belief scenario that would make me sound 'more normal'. Extremely sad I know. Since writing this thread I've come to understand how understanding and caring people whom use the forum are, so for that I appologise. I don't think I'd be the 1st to fantasise on SH (which doesn't make it right), but let me be clear that'll be the last.
Is your age also another of your fantasies???
And how can you play golf on your own if you are using crutches? Just interested you understand.
confused
My age, my circumstances and all those views expressed within the post are legit. The subject of this thread is something I've toyed with for sometime but with no one to turn to for advise. Hence my reason for posting this thread. Each and every view expressed has been taken upon board and has been most helpful. As you may have realised I am new to this community and the 'golf course' post I think was my first post and one of which I now feel ashamed of writing. This thread however has been written from the heart and is not something I've found easy to express. Its reassuring to know there are thoughtful people out there whom use SH who I think I can pose questions to if the need arises in the future.
In one post you say you are 25 and in another you are 26... now only trying to establish the correct figure. Age matters you know.
:P
Ah I do apologise - I understand what your trying to get at now - your referring to my earlier 'would like to meet post' in which I refer to myself as 26 years of age. Truthfully I now realise I was over cautious when writing this post also as I referred to myself as being 25 when I'm really 27. I didn’t check when I wrote the last message. The disparities in my age are a result of me being cautious over whom may read these posts - i.e. if someone whom I knew read the post, they may be able to put 2 and 2 together and realise its me i.e. 27, male, name=Johnboy, disabled, living in S Wales etc. Ok it’s unlikely but it may happen. Actually it could very well happen. I understand your inquisitiveness but that’s the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. Ps. If you think the whole disability issue is a fabrication then there are ways this can be proven. And to all those who've now put 2 and 2 together and know me. A big HELLO from me!
JBW I believe Jags is just pointing out that your lies will come back to bite you in the ass, is all.
Ya godda be one sick fuck to fane a disability, which I don't think you are btw.
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Ps If there are any nice gal's South Wales out there who want to help me out of this sticky jam feel free to message me.
wink

M8, I feel for you......its one thing being in a wheelchair but being stuck in sticky jam as well just takes the biscuit..... :wink:
Good luck in your quest! :thumbup:
Again I thank all those for their thoughtful views and understanding. They've been a big help and comforting at the same time. I'm dissapointed in myself for making a bogus claim in a previous thread (see above - a newbie @ the time) but stand by my decision for lieing about my age in this thread, so as to throw those who may know me off the scent. Obviously this decision has come back to bite me in the ass as another person has pointed out. I should know better @ my age (27 confused )I hope people understand why I did this and do not hold it against me as I'd hoped to cotinue using SH in the future. You seem like a great bunch of guys and I thank you once again. I'll be sure to report back to you when I've decided what to do.
ps any other views/opinions would be grateful but if the threads worn out no prob's.
Quote by Johnboywalton
Again I thank all those for their thoughtful views and understanding. They've been a big help and comforting at the same time. I'm dissapointed in myself for making a bogus claim in a previous thread (see above - a newbie @ the time) but stand by my decision for lieing about my age in this thread, so as to throw those who may know me off the scent. Obviously this decision has come back to bite me in the ass as another person has pointed out. I should know better @ my age (27 confused )I hope people understand why I did this and do not hold it against me as I'd hoped to cotinue using SH in the future. You seem like a great bunch of guys and I thank you once again. I'll be sure to report back to you when I've decided what to do.
ps any other views/opinions would be grateful but if the threads worn out no prob's.

Thanks for that John. Now things are cleared up you can start to have some fun around here. Good luck in that.
:P
Quote by Jags
Again I thank all those for their thoughtful views and understanding. They've been a big help and comforting at the same time. I'm dissapointed in myself for making a bogus claim in a previous thread (see above - a newbie @ the time) but stand by my decision for lieing about my age in this thread, so as to throw those who may know me off the scent. Obviously this decision has come back to bite me in the ass as another person has pointed out. I should know better @ my age (27 confused )I hope people understand why I did this and do not hold it against me as I'd hoped to cotinue using SH in the future. You seem like a great bunch of guys and I thank you once again. I'll be sure to report back to you when I've decided what to do.
ps any other views/opinions would be grateful but if the threads worn out no prob's.

Thanks for that John. Now things are cleared up you can start to have some fun around here. Good luck in that.
:P
Thanks Jags :color: