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I have just got back from a weeks holiday at a military show with 10 of my friends, and like most people on holiday, we ate out at night.
We went to a carvery which advertised roast beef/chicken/pork/lamb, when we got there they only had pork and no yorkshire puddings!!!. We asked for our money back and after a heated debate we got it. We then went to the local indian and had a great meal and booked a table for the following night. We arrived the following night on time, waited half an hour to be seated and another 30 minutes to order a drink, a couple of us started smoking only to be told no smoking on friday and saturday!, despite the fact we had been smoking the night before. Why didn't they tell us that when we booked?.
Another thing that winds me up is restaurants where you have to write down what you want and take it to the counter and pay in advance!.
The whole point of going out for a meal is to be waited on and have a nice time, I am fed up with poor service, over priced food and warm beer.
Do you complain or do the British thing and don't make a fuss?
Rant over sad
I complain (no surprises there then lol ) - if I am paying for something then I expect to get either the service or product that I've forked out for.
I get it from my Dad biggrin but it's always embarassed my Mum who would leave an unedible meal and pay and tip :shock: rather than complain about it.
Jas
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I sit there chuntering and slowly fumeing and PK complains. We went to a little chef the other month (we had no option there was no where else around) and everything that could go wrong did. People who came after us were served first, they missed thing off our order, sent wrong things with the order it took 2 attempts before we chose a drink they actually did have in stock, the food was shite even by their standards. The waitress blamed the chef the chef blamed the waitress the only one who got it right was the shift manager who reconised there was a god almighty fook up with everything we had asked for and after Kates complaint gave us the meal for free no great achievement for us as we had only eaten a quarter of it it was that poor rolleyes
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I have just got back from a weeks holiday at a military show with 10 of my friends, and like most people on holiday, we ate out at night.
We went to a carvery which advertised roast beef/chicken/pork/lamb, when we got there they only had pork and no yorkshire puddings!!!. We asked for our money back and after a heated debate we got it. We then went to the local indian and had a great meal and booked a table for the following night. We arrived the following night on time, waited half an hour to be seated and another 30 minutes to order a drink, a couple of us started smoking only to be told no smoking on friday and saturday!, despite the fact we had been smoking the night before. Why didn't they tell us that when we booked?.
Another thing that winds me up is restaurants where you have to write down what you want and take it to the counter and pay in advance!.
The whole point of going out for a meal is to be waited on and have a nice time, I am fed up with poor service, over priced food and warm beer.
Do you complain or do the British thing and don't make a fuss?
Rant over sad

Awww babes!!! rolleyes
I (foxy) am a customer services manager for a holiday firm.. so i know all about complaints!
I say go for it if your complaint is worthwhile, as not enough people do.
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Its funny I can complain about many things but I rarely complain about meal as I hate a night out spoilt by complaining. Its something however I believe we should complain about as its not cheap eating out now!!!!!!! Went out last Saturday for a meal with Martell Notts and big group of people. It cost a lot of money and a number of things went wrong. We did not complain. Went to Centre Parcs with bunch of women not l;ong ago and meal was horrible - we complained and got 3 free bottles of wine lol
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after Kates complaint gave us the meal for free no great achievement for us as we had only eaten a quarter of it it was that poor rolleyes

:lol2: You brave pair worship
I would never send food back to the kitchen or complain before me foods arrived, for fear of what they 'add' to it :shock:
Funny enough Friday we went just for a quick pub dinner before going out. Ordered the food and over an hour later it still hadn't arrived ........ bluddy ell, it was only a jacket potato!! Coulda damn near grown me own in that time!! confused
Just deleted off a massive epic there - trying to tell the tale of the pub dinner, but was coming out more of a bleedin life story :? :roll:
So, ummmm, where was I blink dunno
Anyway, loads of stuff happended and it ended up we got our money back biggrin
Blast, gone from the sublime to the ridiculous now - that ain't a story at all!!!!! :undecided:
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And i thought it was just me lol :lol:

It is just you :lol: :lol: :lol:
Just my opinion, but in the main, the British do seem extremely reserved about receiving poor service in general.
Just by the nature of my job, I spend a lot of time in restaurants and the amount of times I notice a couple on the next table complaining about the food, service or both.
The waitress walks over and asks if everything is ok and what is there reply?
Yes, fine thank you
FFS Why????????
This so bloody gets me riled. So much so, last year a couple had spent 10 minutes telling each other how bad everything was, waitress walks over, they give the usual reply, I stand up, walk over and say my two penneth. I think I embarrassed the guy, because he finally spoke up.
He went to talk to someone and his partner leaned over and thanked me, being completely honest and saying that they would never think about complaining.
Fingers crossed, in the future they would be a bit more vocal when receiving bad service.
I do complain occasionaly but mostly just vote with my feet.
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I would never send food back to the kitchen or complain before me foods arrived, for fear of what they 'add' to it :shock:

rotflmao Good job you were not at the West Sussex social last year.... A group of us went into the pub and ordered a meal, it took an age to come (about an hour I think) and when it arrived the kids food was a pathetic attempt at a meal and was all dried up... I complained bitterly and made them take it away and bring a proper meal out for them with freshly cooked food.... We got the kids meals free wink
I have no qualms about complaining if I dont think the food is up to standard biggrin
I would never send food back to the kitchen or complain before me foods arrived, for fear of what they 'add' to it :shock:

Mmmmm yes, I know what you mean ! an its true !
i dont think i need to answer this lol
I complain. That said, i wont if in a large group of people for fear of anyone else feeling uncomfortable/ embarassed dunno
What I cant stand is when people complain (used to be a chef, and i've waited tables & various other catering type stuff) and they're unnecessarily rude. That gets my back up, then i'll dig my heels in, and then you can go fuck yourself about getting a refund/ free meal/ voucher for next time etc mad :lol: - and there certainly wont be an apology :rude: :lol:
When i was working in catering, a genuine complaint, pointed out politely and a specific request such as 'we'd like replacement meals/ free desserts/ free wine/ whatever' would be met with a 'I'm really sorry, I'll sort this for you'. It really really does depend on howyou complain wink
complaining !!!!!
thats a female thing isn't it
Yes I complain. I work hard for my money (says she, having just started a six-week holiday!) and don't expect to spend it on crappy service or goods.
I've worked in customer services and, like DF, have worked in the catering industry, so have been at the receiving end of irate customers/guests. With that in mind, I always start off being polite but insistent and then get increasingly louder if they become twatty with me. You don't have to swear or anything; just increasing your voice level somewhat, means they come around to your way of thinking because other customers might hear.
Ever wondered why customer services are always tucked away in a corner? Because you get people being gobby when they don't get satisfactory service!
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When i was working in catering, a genuine complaint, pointed out politely and a specific request such as 'we'd like replacement meals/ free desserts/ free wine/ whatever' would be met with a 'I'm really sorry, I'll sort this for you'. It really really does depend on how you complain wink

to be honest i've had this conversation numberous times about various different senarios......i work in a customer service role and if someone comes to me and complains in a polite way myself and the team around me will do anything in our power to solve the problem........and often go out of our way to help that person out .........
saying that........if someone complains in an arrogant, rude or obnoxious manner........whilst we will resolve the problem, from that point onwards they do not get anything from us other that what they are strictly entitled too.....
i think its important to remember that anyone in any customer service role actually has quite a lot of power in getting you something above and beyond what you have actually requested and generally if you deal with them in a friendly and reaonable manner they will do everything within their power to help you out even if in goes above the call of duty......
I’m going to have to agree with Darkfire on this one.
I do believe the Great British Public is getting better at complaining; however it is about how you complain.
Having been on the end of customer service complaints (some in a previous job where I was threatened to be killed - nice!) some of them were justified in complaining as belongings had gone missing/damaged/miss directed, (but threats verbal/physical abuse is unacceptable) I can ensure you people are willing to complain. However I was much more willing to help those out who put there case forward politely than those who screamed and balled.
I am now in a position where I am monitoring aggressive complaints and I am seeing an increasing trend, which I am trying to address by speaking to our management to improve our systems.
What you also have to remember is that even though people may not complain at the time they will probably tell at least 10 people about the bad service, whereas if they get good service they may tell 1 or 2 people.
So do the British complain - Yes but not always to the right person!
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When i was working in catering, a genuine complaint, pointed out politely and a specific request such as 'we'd like replacement meals/ free desserts/ free wine/ whatever' would be met with a 'I'm really sorry, I'll sort this for you'. It really really does depend on how you complain wink

to be honest i've had this conversation numberous times about various different senarios......i work in a customer service role and if someone comes to me and complains in a polite way myself and the team around me will do anything in our power to solve the problem........and often go out of our way to help that person out .........
saying that........if someone complains in an arrogant, rude or obnoxious manner........whilst we will resolve the problem, from that point onwards they do not get anything from us other that what they are strictly entitled too.....
i think its important to remember that anyone in any customer service role actually has quite a lot of power in getting you something above and beyond what you have actually requested and generally if you deal with them in a friendly and reaonable manner they will do everything within their power to help you out even if in goes above the call of duty......
sowhat you're saying is being polite costs nothing and often goes a long way to getting what you want...
The lack of manners shown by some people really annoys me and I know from previousexperience I'm more likely to help someone who is polite.
I always complain (politely!) if the food or service is poor, especially considering simple bar meals are rising to over £10... I don't expect cold food, smash and shoe leather. If the bar or restaurant can't handle a simple meal for 2 or a larger party they need to sort it out! We eat out at a few great places but invariably I find most restaurant and bar food very disappointing.
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I always complain (politely!) if the food or service is poor, especially considering simple bar meals are rising to over £10... I don't expect cold food, smash and shoe leather. If the bar or restaurant can't handle a simple meal for 2 or a larger party they need to sort it out! We eat out at a few great places but invariably I find most restaurant and bar food very disappointing.
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The funny thing about this sort of thing is that when we decide to go out for a pub luch at work, we generally go to Walkabout, the Aussie theme bar. They have a £3 menu for officey folks like us offering various baguettes and chips, jacket spuds and other odds and sods that would suffice as lunctime fayre.
Now they take the orders, serve the food and enquire re:sauces etc without batting an eyelid. They check half way through your meal and then again at the end that everything is satisfactory and are usually very efficient at clearing the tables. The food is 99.9% faultless and although it is simple stuff, thats sometimes the hardest to get right day in day out!
I just find it amazing that a pub where your food and a drink costs less than £5 and is good food served well is streets in front of a lot of the hotels/restaurants and other significantly pricier eateries I have been to.
(and I am also one for eat first complain later due to the thought of unwanted additives into the food :cry: )
I've been lucky enough so far not to have to complain about service much but I have no qualms about it when I have to. I did send my food back once at a restaurant when I ordered a mixed grill. The pork chop was still raw! :shock: I only had to mention food poisoning and I had a replacement meal ( not another mixed grill I hasten to add ) and they didn't charge us for any of our meal or drinks.
I think we ARE too reserved on the whole which we shouldn't be. If you don't feel the service or products are up to standard then why shouldn't we say something?
A complaint is an opportunity to improve, so do the company a favour complain.
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What you also have to remember is that even though people may not complain at the time they will probably tell at least 10 people about the bad service, whereas if they get good service they may tell 1 or 2 people.

Oh so very true - Just a huge shame that some companies, whilst acknowledging that services are important, do bugger all about adequately training the staff
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So do the British complain - Yes but not always to the right person!

Again, I could not agree more, all to often we see jo public raising their voice to someone who really does not care. All they would do is just listen and nod appropriately.
The other thing that we tend to get to involved with is the reason why we complain. Do we complain to get something for free, or do we complain to impart knowledge to the recipient that your experience was not a happy one. Another reason why it's essential to talk to the right person.
I have no qualms about complaining - and what with me being such a shrinking violet! :shock:
I like to think that I complain in a polite and reasonable manner - i.e. if my steak is over cooked I'm not going to start ranting at the waitress as it isn't her fault.
If it is not how you expect your food or goods to be then yes you should complain, but as others have already said it is the manner as how you complain that gets things done.
I bought my father a pear tree (that is what he wanted) for his birthday, when it was delivered, I phoned to check he got it, to which he said yes, but the branches were broken and damaged.
I rang up the company and told them, they said it was the delivery company's fault, (although it was packaged in a large long box) and they would take the matter up with them, now in the meantime would I accept another pear tree to be delivered, and the lady was very apologitic.
New pear tree delivered in much better condition, both now are growing, but the damaged is not as good as the replacement.
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There are three people you can complain to (apart from your spouse/frined/therapist).
The 19 year-old at the counter or serving your table (waste of time they have no authority whatsoever), the customer service person (but not all places have one) or the manager. Personally I always go straight to the top. And I never accept the invitation to discuss it 'in the office'. As has already been said - you don't have to get rude, just loud enough for other customers to hear. If they are browsing and haven't bought anything yet all the better :twisted:
A rant is very satisfying but it's great if you go in with the specific 'what went wrong', what you actually expected to happen or get and a specific redress you want.
I love ranting on e-mails - then I delete the grumpy old woman bit and replace it with sensible stuff. biggrin
If you've really been screwed (garage damages your car and refuses to deal with it for instance or shoddy workmanship by a builder) you can threaten and use the small claims court. Cheap and easy to use and it works. I used it on a garage and the Halifax building society - worked both times.
i'll complain like the next guy but when i had my own catering business at an auction i complained to a customer 4 not complaining, while collecting plates cups up, this guy had ordered 2 potatoes with cheese, obviuosly he didnt like them (overcooked) so i bollocked him 4 not complaining his face was a picture, anyway we gave him 2 beefburgers and tea in exchange.
I took my son to London as a birthday treat a few years ago and we went off to Mme Tusseauds. We queued for 1 1/2 hours just to get as far as the till, it cost me £35 for just me and him ( he was 12 at the time ) to get in and the place was so crowded, you couldn't see all the exhibits let alone take photos. By the time we'd got as far as the Chamber Of Horrors, we were both feeling very claustrophobic and hot, we decided to leave. Son was understandably very disappointed so I emailed them when I got home and complained.
What did I get? F*ck all that's what! Not even a polite 'We've filed your email in the recycle bin' reply! mad
Needless to say, I've taken the next course of action and am telling everyone I know who plans to visit not to bother ! A waste of a morning, a complete waste of money and I'm sure they were breaking all kinds of Health and Safety rules by having that many people in at any one time :dry:
The Science Museum on the other hand was amazing ! It was free, spacious, nowhere near as crowded and a lot more entertaining ! :thumbup:
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Yes I complain. I work hard for my money (says she, having just started a six-week holiday!) and don't expect to spend it on crappy service or goods.
I've worked in customer services and, like DF, have worked in the catering industry, so have been at the receiving end of irate customers/guests. With that in mind, I always start off being polite but insistent and then get increasingly louder if they become twatty with me. You don't have to swear or anything; just increasing your voice level somewhat, means they come around to your way of thinking because other customers might hear.
Ever wondered why customer services are always tucked away in a corner? Because you get people being gobby when they don't get satisfactory service!

Big Mac and large fries please! lol
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I took my son to London as a birthday treat a few years ago and we went off to Mme Tusseauds. We queued for 1 1/2 hours just to get as far as the till, it cost me £35 for just me and him ( he was 12 at the time ) to get in and the place was so crowded, you couldn't see all the exhibits let alone take photos. By the time we'd got as far as the Chamber Of Horrors, we were both feeling very claustrophobic and hot, we decided to leave. Son was understandably very disappointed so I emailed them when I got home and complained.
What did I get? F*ck all that's what! Not even a polite 'We've filed your email in the recycle bin' reply! mad
Needless to say, I've taken the next course of action and am telling everyone I know who plans to visit not to bother ! A waste of a morning, a complete waste of money and I'm sure they were breaking all kinds of Health and Safety rules by having that many people in at any one time :dry:
The Science Museum on the other hand was amazing ! It was free, spacious, nowhere near as crowded and a lot more entertaining ! :thumbup:

Totally agree.....that place is piss poor.........and i guess you never got a reply back because they really don't have to......that's the arrogance of them......
I complain when things fail to meet my expectations. My ex boyfriend, being British, did not complain. He prefered feeling miserable but not breaking anyone's heart. So when the food at the expensive Milan hotel came and was crap, I called the waitress over and complained. Told her the food was smelling awful (it had a lavatory smell, honestly!) and was completely wrongly cooked (even a child wouldn't have presented such a meal). She explained their chef was off for the night and they were trying to manage on few staff. She managed to get me a fillet steak grilled with some salad. My ex did not want his meal changed and ate it whilst salivating over mine then spent the rest of the night asking himself why didn't he have the guts to change his food, too. The following night the manager was in and apparently had been told of what had happened. He was very polite with me and even gave me a double portion of desert. My ex asked how come he didn't get a double portion and the manager just smiled and said it was because they had made me unhappy the previous night and he wanted to make it up to me. So my ex spent another night fuming whilst I was giggling my head off and teasing him mercilessly in bed. I think it is important when you complain to know what you are complaining about, be firm, demand in a nice way they rectify the mistake and thank them genuinely for putting things right afterwards.