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Warming the Bed
Since joining late 2005 I expected to be inundated with masses of people wanting sex with me..Woh ..How wrong I apperently dont work that way ...
1) I found out very quickly that SW is very much an exhibitionist site in which you view and enjoy.
2) Not much actual "swinging" take place -most of the site is chit caht
3) Chat rooms are fun but are really like the old guys CB ( citizens banb radio) ie where are u ,how old are u etc exept with the twist of show uz ur jugs / conna cum now type carp
You may enjoy it is not exactly direct people contact
2) Surely people who wish to have sex or exploit themselves on the internet must realise that other people will want to manipulate them for thier own wise there is no purpose in SWINGERS HEAVEN????
3) It is very,repeat very easy to get "booted" by Gestapo style observers who apperently seem to choose their own style and method of policeing their is no consistency....Newcomers beware!!!!
4) I get very , very p****ed off with people who want to see people wank off /f***k /and commit buggery on cam and yet they are sanctamonious enough to believe they are doing a servive by putting " NO DIRECTION" on a chatroom WHY??????
5) THere is too much Non Directing in this site ------it will soon become just another chat site...IS THAT WHAT WE WANT??
Orgasminator
Quote by john60
Since joining late 2005 I expected to be inundated with masses of people wanting sex with me..Woh ..How wrong I apperently dont work that way ...
1) I found out very quickly that SW is very much an exhibitionist site in which you view and enjoy.
2) Not much actual "swinging" take place -most of the site is chit caht
3) Chat rooms are fun but are really like the old guys CB ( citizens banb radio) ie where are u ,how old are u etc exept with the twist of show uz ur jugs / conna cum now type carp
You may enjoy it is not exactly direct people contact
2) Surely people who wish to have sex or exploit themselves on the internet must realise that other people will want to manipulate them for thier own wise there is no purpose in SWINGERS HEAVEN????
3) It is very,repeat very easy to get "booted" by Gestapo style observers who apperently seem to choose their own style and method of policeing their is no consistency....Newcomers beware!!!!
4) I get very , very p****ed off with people who want to see people wank off /f***k /and commit buggery on cam and yet they are sanctamonious enough to believe they are doing a servive by putting " NO DIRECTION" on a chatroom WHY??????
5) THere is too much Non Directing in this site ------it will soon become just another chat site...IS THAT WHAT WE WANT??

please dont knock this site i have met some very nice people from here you get out of it what you put into it!!!!
there is a simple answer here if you dont like the site go else where :shock:
im sure here are plenty of other sites where women will drop their knickers for you at the drop of a hat good luck :shock: :shock:
Quote by john60
Since joining late 2005 I expected to be inundated with masses of people wanting sex with me..

rotflmao
Oh, I know you're going to get locked as soon as someone with keys sees this, but..... :rotflmao: I just adore you for coming in here and posting that! Touched a proper giggle nerve :rotflmao:
Sex God
Yes this site does swing, and there are loads of swingers here!
well it appears that this site and the way that it works is not what you are looking......as thats the case don't u think it would be better to try and find a site which is what ur lookin for rather than just whinging?
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And for us lol
But takes a bit of effort!!!

WOW!
Hope i'm still swinging at 89! :lol: :lol:
Shaz x
i'm getting so much i've introduced a bonus scheme and air miles system for frequent users wink
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.....Touched a proper giggle nerve rotflmao

My favourite of all your nerves miss cocoa, come over here and let me give you a guffaw :rascal:
Warming the Bed
Nice too see some replys.
1) I do not intentionally want to get booted -i enjony being on this site
2) Having been on this site for a while I feel it is getting rather restricted from what I believe was the inital intentions
3) Yes there probably are other sites to which I could go but my intention is to open free speech within THIS that surley not what the guys who came up with SW intended .
4) I STILL insist that no directing is going to kill this site -we ne alternativives
5) I am not a s**t stirrer ,merly bringng topips that shoul be mentioned to the front
See it as you will ,in the open minded way I put it to you
Quote by john60
2) Not much actual "swinging" take place -most of the site is chit caht

What did you expect to happen on the site? the actual swinging takes place in real life, not on the forum. It'd be really boring if the place was full of ads and nothing else!
And the people who put NO DIRECTION on the chatrooms are usually the ones on cam, not the ones who want to watch - people who are on cam have the right to choose what they do, they're not puppets whose strings are to be pulled for other peoples gratification.
:shock:
Quote by john60
4) I STILL insist that no directing is going to kill this site -we ne alternativives
See it as you will ,in the open minded way I put it to you

pk i am not a regular chatroom user (cos i'm scared).........but i don't understand why u find it esential to have the ability to direct people.........many people use rooms like that for that exact purpose.
as for the site........in my opinion its great........so no worries there either
Warming the Bed
Needles to say that POSHKATE's response answered no questions at all and was probably the one I would have expected ie bugger off if not happy .
Disregarding the obvious ,I thank all other intelligent life forms for keeping a good discussion going.
Quote by john60
4) I STILL insist that no directing is going to kill this site -we ne alternativives
See it as you will ,in the open minded way I put it to you

pk i am not a regular chatroom user (cos i'm scared).........but i don't understand why u find it esential to have the ability to direct people.........many people use rooms like that for that exact purpose.
as for the site........in my opinion its great........so no worries there either
Warming the Bed
The chatroom gives people the ability to express themselves --yes? them if they are doing so on an open forum then they have a willingness for exhibitionisim .The question I ask is direct or not direct ?
Why not put people who wish to be directed in a seperate room ?
The others can be viewed with the explicit instruction that they are to be observed only.
Poshkate -you implicate that you are shy ..........I can bet you have enjoyed some other guy making direct instructions at the risk of gettinng booted?
Making sense ???
Again there may well be other sites I should go to but at least I have the nerve to stand up and try to make this excellent site better through open discussion.
Sex God
Let me see if I'm understanding you correctly.
1) You object to users who are willing to display themselves on camera but not be directed.
2) You feel that the fact that they are willing to show themselves means that they lose all right to do anything but what others (i.e you) tell them to do.
3) You object to the chat rooms ops enforcing the no directors rule when a member has chosen to open that type of cam room.
4) You haven't been successful in getting much swinging out of SH (not SW it's SH wink)
Well go figure - I'd have thought you would have had them rolling in rolleyes
I think you have to remember that choice is an option for ALL users, and those that choose not to be directed, but display themselves on camera at their own pace have that right.
Why not just watch the people who are happy to be directed and leave the others to their own form of enjoyment. dunno
Jas
XXX
Quote by john60
The chatroom gives people the ability to express themselves --yes? them if they are doing so on an open forum then they have a willingness for exhibitionisim .The question I ask is direct or not direct ?
Why not put people who wish to be directed in a seperate room ?
The others can be viewed with the explicit instruction that they are to be observed only.
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i think john wants people to direct him perhaps its what turns him on? But honesty John most people find directing a turn off. You get all excited & start doing stuff on cam then people start directing & its like a bucket of cold water. i dunno why it feels like that maybe its just a woman thing
Sex God
Quote by john60
Why not put people who wish to be directed in a seperate room ?
The others can be viewed with the explicit instruction that they are to be observed only.

If you take a look at the large numbers of people who hang out in the various "No Directing" rooms, surely that speaks for itself? They are in there because they do not wish to be directed . . . as in your suggestion above, that they wish to be observed only confused
Sure you may get the odd one or two (usually a woman rolleyes ) who wants to be directed and will log into one of these rooms and actively encourage the directors to break the rules in a non directing room, but in those cases they would both stand to be booted.
Anyone who wishes to be directed is quite free to open their own room and put "Directing welcome" or similar in the title, or simply log into a room which does not have "no directing" in the title.
Simple really . . . if you read the signs and then everyone's enjoyment can be catered for, those who like to direct, those who enjoy being directed and those who don't . . . it's hardly rocket science is it? :?
Tracy-Jayne
Quote by john60
Since joining late 2005 I expected to be inundated with masses of people wanting sex with me..Woh ..How wrong I apperently dont work that way ...
1) I found out very quickly that SW is very much an exhibitionist site in which you view and enjoy.
2) Not much actual "swinging" take place -most of the site is chit caht
3) Chat rooms are fun but are really like the old guys CB ( citizens banb radio) ie where are u ,how old are u etc exept with the twist of show uz ur jugs / conna cum now type carp
You may enjoy it is not exactly direct people contact
2) Surely people who wish to have sex or exploit themselves on the internet must realise that other people will want to manipulate them for thier own wise there is no purpose in SWINGERS HEAVEN????
3) It is very,repeat very easy to get "booted" by Gestapo style observers who apperently seem to choose their own style and method of policeing their is no consistency....Newcomers beware!!!!
4) I get very , very p****ed off with people who want to see people wank off /f***k /and commit buggery on cam and yet they are sanctamonious enough to believe they are doing a servive by putting " NO DIRECTION" on a chatroom WHY??????
5) THere is too much Non Directing in this site ------it will soon become just another chat site...IS THAT WHAT WE WANT??

Dark walks in.....reads thread.... ponders for 2 seconds....decides she cant be arsed with this.....walks back out again. wink
Quote by john60
Since joining late 2005 I expected to be inundated with masses of people wanting sex with me..

Dear John
I am delighted to hear you have been disappointed by the lack of fruition of your expectations, as I am with any person of ignorance who feels swinging is an easy shag.
With regards to the chatroom - strangely enough, I mainly go in the chatroom to ermmm ....chat! (shock horror) If I wish to get shagged silly - I go to a club, meet with friends, people I know, some people I am getting to know and occasionally visit a dogging site. I would gladly support the removal of all cams from the chatroom, to aid the flow of chat rather than streams of "nice tits" comments (even though I have switched my cam on in there before now and no doubt will again).
Cams are great for exhibitionists - the thing you need to realise about exhibitionists is - well they are exhibitionist! Just incase you can't work that one out for yourself.... they want to be watched. It does not mean they automatically want anything else other than to be watched. Why should they? They are exhibitionists! Many will have already got their thrill and kick by exhibiting and for these people the extent of their involvement into swinging has already been achieved.
For those who wish 'get their rocks off' by directing as they wank - why not open a Directing Room? Or is that too much trouble?
Some of what I have said here may appear a little patronising - for that I apologise as I would have like to have been deeply patronising, but I just can't be arsed.
Master of Sex
can i first ask......how much better than all of these people do you actually think YOU are.....on a scale of 1 to 10 plz.....just wanted to get an idea....... dunno
and in all honesty it sounds like you`ve got the hump..because you didnt get an instant shag when you joined...........
as for the chat rooms........speaking as the male half of a cpl who used to "show" on cam.............we never appreiciated directors.....we found the reason we liked showing off on cam was the "exhibitionist" angle.........and dint like the fact that because we were showing it seemed to give people like yourself.....the right to be rude and abusive...we cammed for our own gratification......and the few people that were repectful to us........why the fuck should we accept disrespect just because were into "exhibitionism"....it`s too easy for people to sit behind there pc screens and feel untouchable <------- hence this attitude from alot of the newcommers to the site.
just imagine for one minute that the people who were with the site before the change, have had to sit and watch as an influx of people joined the site with an idea that "if they register they will cum"............. rolleyes
and i doubt any swinging goes on , on the site at all..after all it`s just a website or should i say a tool.......a means to an end...if you wanted an instant shag why didnt you just pay for it?!...............you wouldnt have had to bother with all of us timewasters then !.......................now plz.....as weve all seen this thread a million times and i for one am getting fed up with it.........pick your dummy up off the floor get back in ya pram....and get yaself off to amsterdam............... :twisted:
sorry for ranting but we have seen this thread or similar sooo many times, and it`s getting harder and harder to bite my lip esp: when you disrespect the loverly POSHKATE kiss
Quote by john60
Since joining late 2005 I expected to be inundated with masses of people wanting sex with me..Woh ..How wrong I apperently dont work that way ...
1) I found out very quickly that SW is very much an exhibitionist site in which you view and enjoy.
2) Not much actual "swinging" take place -most of the site is chit caht
3) Chat rooms are fun but are really like the old guys CB ( citizens banb radio) ie where are u ,how old are u etc exept with the twist of show uz ur jugs / conna cum now type carp
You may enjoy it is not exactly direct people contact
2) Surely people who wish to have sex or exploit themselves on the internet must realise that other people will want to manipulate them for thier own wise there is no purpose in SWINGERS HEAVEN????
3) It is very,repeat very easy to get "booted" by Gestapo style observers who apperently seem to choose their own style and method of policeing their is no consistency....Newcomers beware!!!!
4) I get very , very p****ed off with people who want to see people wank off /f***k /and commit buggery on cam and yet they are sanctamonious enough to believe they are doing a servive by putting " NO DIRECTION" on a chatroom WHY??????
5) THere is too much Non Directing in this site ------it will soon become just another chat site...IS THAT WHAT WE WANT??
Quote by john60
Since joining late 2005 I expected to be inundated with masses of people wanting sex with me..Woh ..How wrong I apperently dont work that way
..........No it doesn't. You're not alone here but shouldn't be so expectant to have women queueing at your door!
1) I found out very quickly that SW is very much an exhibitionist site in which you view and enjoy.
2) Not much actual "swinging" take place -most of the site is chit caht...... .Wrong again
3) Chat rooms are fun but are really like the old guys CB ( citizens banb radio) ie where are u ,how old are u etc exept with the twist of show uz ur jugs / conna cum now type carp....................... That's true for ALL chatrooms not just ours
You may enjoy it is not exactly direct people contact................... Wrong again
2) Surely people who wish to have sex or exploit themselves on the internet must realise that other people will want to manipulate them for thier own wise there is no purpose in SWINGERS HEAVEN????........................... Bit like going to a club on a saturday night then
3) It is very,repeat very easy to get "booted" by Gestapo style observers who apperently seem to choose their own style and method of policeing their is no consistency....Newcomers beware!!!!........................ People only get booted if they break the rules or abuse the members. Without this type of regulation, all hell would break loose and it wouldn't be the friendly place it really is Newcomers are very welcome, just check out some of the threads
4) I get very , very p****ed off with people who want to see people wank off /f***k /and commit buggery on cam and yet they are sanctamonious enough to believe they are doing a servive by putting " NO DIRECTION" on a chatroom WHY?????? ............................. ..To 'get yer tits out'because you want to is one thing, to be TOLD to do it is another!
5) THere is too much Non Directing in this site ------it will soon become just another chat site...IS THAT WHAT WE WANT??................If you don't like it, you know where the door is!
Master of Sex
<--------------hears a knock at the door!!!!
is that you sassy :shock: biggrin
Quote by Sassy-Seren
Since joining late 2005 I expected to be inundated with masses of people wanting sex with me..Woh ..How wrong I apperently dont work that way
..........No it doesn't. You're not alone here but shouldn't be so expectant to have women queueing at your door!
1) I found out very quickly that SW is very much an exhibitionist site in which you view and enjoy.
2) Not much actual "swinging" take place -most of the site is chit caht.......Wrong again
3) Chat rooms are fun but are really like the old guys CB ( citizens banb radio) ie where are u ,how old are u etc exept with the twist of show uz ur jugs / conna cum now type carp....................... That's true for ALL chatrooms not just ours
You may enjoy it is not exactly direct people contact................... Wrong again
2) Surely people who wish to have sex or exploit themselves on the internet must realise that other people will want to manipulate them for thier own wise there is no purpose in SWINGERS HEAVEN????........................... Bit like going to a club on a saturday night then
3) It is very,repeat very easy to get "booted" by Gestapo style observers who apperently seem to choose their own style and method of policeing their is no consistency....Newcomers beware!!!!........................ People only get booted if they break the rules or abuse the members. Without this type of regulation, all hell would break loose and it wouldn't be the friendly place it really is Newcomers are very welcome, just check out some of the threads
4) I get very , very p****ed off with people who want to see people wank off /f***k /and commit buggery on cam and yet they are sanctamonious enough to believe they are doing a servive by putting " NO DIRECTION" on a chatroom WHY?????? ...............................To 'get yer tits out'because you want to is one thing, to be TOLD to do it is another!
5) THere is too much Non Directing in this site ------it will soon become just another chat site...IS THAT WHAT WE WANT??................If you don't like it, you know where the door is!
Quote by quimninja2003
<--------------hears a knock at the door!!!!
is that you sassy :shock: biggrin

wave kiss
Speaking personally, I love the site, have met some great people. Had my fair share of dissapointments and let downs, but thats part of the trip.
I'm happy enough with it. and it seems most others are as well.
The bottom line is ' if you don't like it, dont use it'.
Quote by john60
Since joining late 2005 I expected to be inundated with masses of people wanting sex with me..Woh ..How wrong I apperently dont work that way ...
Yes we found that too John........Thank goodness!!
1) I found out very quickly that SW is very much an exhibitionist site in which you view and enjoy.
We found it to be full of interesting, diverse, friendly and some sot so friendly people all into a whole range of different things....which we expected as there are 465,223 members
2) Not much actual "swinging" take place -most of the site is chit caht
Chat rooms are for chat, forums are for chat both are for the purpose of people getting to know each other BEFORE they swing.
3) Chat rooms are fun but are really like the old guys CB ( citizens banb radio) ie where are u ,how old are u etc exept with the twist of show uz ur jugs / conna cum now type carp
You may enjoy it is not exactly direct people contact
No very true, but when they manage to invent direct contact over the internet that will be as big as the time machine I would think.
2) Surely people who wish to have sex or exploit themselves on the internet must realise that other people will want to manipulate them for thier own gratiication. And your point is ! Other wise there is no purpose in SWINGERS HEAVEN????
The purpose is for swingers to meet a wider range of swingers than we would if we were in our own back garden.
3) It is very,repeat very easy to get "booted" by Gestapo style observers who apperently seem to choose their own style and method of policeing their is no consistency....Newcomers beware!!!!
Yes it's very easy.... you would'nt find me on cam in a chatroom very often if it wasn't
4) I get very , very p****ed off with people who want to see people wank off /f***k /and commit buggery on cam and yet they are sanctamonious enough to believe they are doing a servive by putting " NO DIRECTION" on a chatroom WHY??????
It's the one's on cam usually saying no direction and since they are on cam, surely it's their call? If you want to direct, start your own room up and see how many takers you get!
5) THere is too much Non Directing in this site ------it will soon become just another chat site...IS THAT WHAT WE WANT??

Yes that's what we want! What is it exactly that YOU want???

Furthermore speaking as a woman who goes on cam, partner of a man who chooses not to and as a newbie since December I don't feel I need to beware. I feel and have been made to feel welcome, happy and whatsmore thru being on cam and chatting have met some lovely people who I will almost definately play with when the time is right for all parties concerned. So stop wingeing and spend some more time getting to know people and then perhaps you will be soooo busy playing you won't have time to post as above.
Sorry I'm not being horrible, I'm definately not a horrible person, but I feel like you've insulted my friends and it makes me angry!!!
Firelizard
Sex God
Must admit I'm another who has stopped going on cam because of the vile rude mannered individuals who think it is their right to tell me to get my tits out.
I'd be interested to know what your definition of swinging is ... mine is mutual fun between two or more parties. So where does the mutual fit into your first moan! The women aren't willing to give you a quick shag and the people on cam aren't willing todas you demand ... that doesn't sound like mutual fun to me!
It's your first post on the forums and no one knows you? well re-read the attitude in yourinitial post and then ask yourself seriously who has the problem!
The nearly thousand or so people off this site, I've met socially and/or sexually must be a figment of my imagination! It works for me .. but then I make no demands of people, am here as much socially as sexually and I make an effort to fit in!
If chit chat doesn't work for you, and it does for a massive amount of others, then perhaps a re think is in order!
Cx
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Sorry I'm not being horrible, I'm definately not a horrible person, but I feel like you've insulted my friends and it makes me angry!!!
Firelizard

kiss
Sex God
Quote by john60
Since joining late 2005 I expected to be inundated with masses of people wanting sex with me..Woh ..How wrong I apperently dont work that way ....
1) I found out very quickly that SW is very much an exhibitionist site in which you view and enjoy.
2) Not much actual "swinging" take place -most of the site is chit caht
3) Chat rooms are fun but are really like the old guys CB ( citizens banb radio) ie where are u ,how old are u etc exept with the twist of show uz ur jugs / conna cum now type carp
You may enjoy it is not exactly direct people contact
2) Surely people who wish to have sex or exploit themselves on the internet must realise that other people will want to manipulate them for thier own wise there is no purpose in SWINGERS HEAVEN????
3) It is very,repeat very easy to get "booted" by Gestapo style observers who apperently seem to choose their own style and method of policeing their is no consistency....Newcomers beware!!!!
4) I get very , very p****ed off with people who want to see people wank off /f***k /and commit buggery on cam and yet they are sanctamonious enough to believe they are doing a servive by putting " NO DIRECTION" on a chatroom WHY??????
5) THere is too much Non Directing in this site ------it will soon become just another chat site...IS THAT WHAT WE WANT??

I am so glad that I didn't answer this last night.... because it would have been so much more venomous than it will be now.....
A couple of things for you poor.... poor.....poor misguided soul.........
Actually we ought to thank you..... because now any person who was thinking of actually meeting you before this can now do some background reading, and find this golden nugget of a post!!!! If you werent' meeting people before.....I am guessing this ain't going to help......I don't think there is a foot big enough to put in your mouth right now.... in fact I think you are in JCB territory!!!!
with the attitude you have displayed here, do you wonder why you don't have many, if any, meets???? I would look in the mirror.......look very.... very.....very hard!!!
is swinging about exploitation... wow... i have gotten it wrong all this time.... thanks for putting me right!!!
Quote by john60
4) I get very , very p****ed off with people who want to see people wank off /f***k /and commit buggery on cam and yet they are sanctamonious enough to believe they are doing a servive by putting " NO DIRECTION" on a chatroom WHY??????

because they are asking people to respect their wishes...... it is just too differcult for people to take their hands away from the keyboard and just sit on them..... or does it have to be like feeding time at the zoo!!!! the people on cams are not preforming seals....
Quote by john60
5) THere is too much Non Directing in this site ------it will soon become just another chat site...IS THAT WHAT WE WANT??

you will get no complaints from meif it became just another chatroom......after all it is still suppose to be a chat room.....if chat is too differcult for you maybe i could interest you in some adult education classes.....
I am just interested in how you are going to be able to weasel out of this one......
what a way to commit swinging suicide...... that was almost oscar award winning!!!!
sean xxxxxxx