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As far as I see it the "original" members got the free membership because without their patronage the site couldn't have developed and that when the owners sold SH on, the proviso that original members got free membership was included in recognition of that support.
Why all the nitpicking all of a sudden ? Granted the fees have risen but that's got nothing to do with the founder members.
I think the idea that new members should be told the arrangement with the founder members is farcical. The fact is that in the past an arrangement was made and honoured, why is that so bad. This kinda reminds me of where I used to live, People used buy houses next to the Aerodrome and then complain about the noise of the planes.
There have been some good points made...and some very good points too...then some extremely good ones...and now my head hurts!
I've started up a Good ideas/suggestion thread up, in the hope that it will help.
http://www.swingingheaven.co.uk/swingers-forum/viewtopic/366964.html
If we aid admin then it might make all our lives easier/cheaper...perhaps wink
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If we aid admin then it might make all our lives easier/cheaper...perhaps wink

I'm already cheap and easy, hows it going to help me? :mrgreen:
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Only a small thought....most of us have experianced a time waster or two on this site. I wonder how many of these time wasters are paying every year.
Before you have a go at me, I know there are a fair number of non-paying members who are serious, non-timewasting members.

If your sexual kick is wanking while arranging meets that you have no intention of keeping then isn't a lot to pay, and I doubt that that amount of money would deter anyone from joining a site where they can get their sexual kick.
I would suggest that the percentage of keyboard-wankers has actually increased since the takeover because before that there weren't cams and videos to wank over and the picture ads were hard work to browse. As an aside the takeover has done nothing for us - the forums were better before and the Mirc chatroom allowed people to chat rather than flash or watch - but that's progress.
you do talk some sense dudes..
Meat, you will just be a shining example lol
hi,
i have not read all of the thread, as i am presuming afetr reading 3-4 pages i get the jist.
i joined this site almost 8 years ago, now when i joined the site was small, non gadgety, no advertising etc. it was a small community, almost a co-operative.
yes it took someone ( praise be mark if ya reading lol) to set the site up, but i think anyone who was here at the time will agree it took the members to run the site, be that formally as a mod or op or by being a active site member.
it was always said the site will NEVER be sold or charge. it was through the support of the active members that made the site great and im sure a site that made it worth intrest to a company.
now we were all very happy with the site, then one day logged in and found this whirlwind going on and were informed the site had been sold and taken over???
i was most shocked that it was upsetting our community and the site would become too commercial and that we had lost mark.
we were promiced then , as we had been whne mark and the community owned the site that we would never be charged to come here etc. which seemed decent as the site would have collapsed if we had all at that point walked away, you might think that is extreem, and if we all left now that would not happen, but it really would have then.
so i understand you paying members may feel agreeved by this status, and that we get to use all these great new facilities, but we were happy the way we were,
its like we all lived on lovely community island and now all the torists have started comming here and big slides and clubs have been build the torists are asking us to now pay to live in the community we were already at before it got taken over.
xx fem xx
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stuff

Nothing to add, just wanted to be underneath you :rascal:
lovely to see you, your absence from posting has been noticed kiss
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stuff

Nothing to add, just wanted to be underneath you :rascal:
lovely to see you, your absence from posting has been noticed kiss
wave:kiss:
nice to know you remembered who i am lol its been quite a while
xx fem xx
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stuff

Nothing to add, just wanted to be underneath you :rascal:
lovely to see you, your absence from posting has been noticed kiss
wave:kiss:
nice to know you remembered who i am lol its been quite a while
xx fem xx
now why would i forget someone so delicious? :lickface: :kiss:
The mistake was to offer free membership to the original members should only have been offered for a limited period.
In my opinion the site have to stick with their original contract and we, the majority, are going to have to pay.
Beware SH there are many up and coming sites.
Quote by Talltreescouple
The mistake was to offer free membership to the original members should only have been offered for a limited period.
In my opinion the site have to stick with their original contract and we, the majority, are going to have to pay.
Beware SH there are many up and coming sites.

And will you be paying to join these "up and coming sites"? dunno
Coz I wont as I`m more than happy here :grin:
Quote by mrs-bmw
The mistake was to offer free membership to the original members should only have been offered for a limited period.
In my opinion the site have to stick with their original contract and we, the majority, are going to have to pay.
Beware SH there are many up and coming sites.

And will you be paying to join these "up and coming sites"? dunno
Coz I wont as I`m more than happy here :grin:
You dont have to pay on some of them so I guess for some SH is a luxury. If you start to get for free elsewhere what you pay for here then some people may stop paying I guess. Then again theres no guarantee they will be free forever.
that's another point. if there are other sites serving the swinging community free, why does someone pay to be here?
obviously they looked at the choices and still decided the experience here would be more rewarding. sometimes people are happier paying.
also how you use a site can bring rewards without paying too much.
most sites allow you to create a free profile. but don't act on it staright away. let it sleep a few months and see if your profile gets any response.
if and when it does then pay for membership.
Quote by Talltreescouple
The mistake was to offer free membership to the original members should only have been offered for a limited period.
In my opinion the site have to stick with their original contract and we, the majority, are going to have to pay.
Beware SH there are many up and coming sites.

We've had a look at a good majority of these alleged up and coming sites and for the most part they're a pile of poo, they're either littered with spam, contain inappropriate links and often have very little to offer other than a sparse message board and restricted adverts. Nothing wrong with those sites but where SH eclipses all before it is a/ Financial investment in the site and b/ exposure for it's members to other members so to speak.
SH is primarily a business (or at least i think it is) it tends to move with the times and keeps ahead of the game by continually investing/evolving...in short sh sets the benchmark for others to follow/aspire to. (my opinion)
Andy
We have to admit we're a bit annoyed that despite us being "loyal" to SH for couple of years now, renewal rates seem to be different depending on your account.
We've had the message to renew as we're due for renewal at beginning of april.
Our price for upgrade with extra's (+free month) is
yet, when we checked another account we set up a while ago but rarely used, the renewel/upgrade offer was as follows:
Alamo Offer - Our best ever offer and lowest ever prices, guaranteed. Only monthly, yearly or with Extras for just per year. Be quick, as this offer is limited to only 600 people
Now, this we feel is unfair and to be honest, if we'd been offered this rate to main account, we'd have probably took it there and then despite not getting the free month which is offered at only anyway according to above.
sad
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We've had a look at a good majority of these alleged up and coming sites and for the most part they're a pile of poo, they're either littered with spam, contain inappropriate links and often have very little to offer other than a sparse message board and restricted adverts. Nothing wrong with those sites but where SH eclipses all before it is a/ Financial investment in the site and b/ exposure for it's members to other members so to speak.
SH is primarily a business (or at least i think it is) it tends to move with the times and keeps ahead of the game by continually investing/evolving...in short sh sets the benchmark for others to follow/aspire to. (my opinion)
Andy

There are a few larger contenders. The other one we are registered on seems far busier than here there are tons more people in our area and we get far more response's, mail and offers of meets. The forum is far far busier than here and the chat is always busy. Chat may not be as advanced as here but it does a good enough job for me not that I have used it much but same can be said or the chat here too. Inappropriate links? Ignore them lol pay attention to the bits you are interested in wink For years we only used here and now for the first time we are using another site equally as much as this one. Both are good both have there plus and minus points and for us both are free. I do get the feeling that is the other started to charge then it may go down hill fast so not convinced I would pay for it.
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We have to admit we're a bit annoyed that despite us being "loyal" to SH for couple of years now, renewal rates seem to be different depending on your account.
We've had the message to renew as we're due for renewal at beginning of april.
Our price for upgrade with extra's (+free month) is
yet, when we checked another account we set up a while ago but rarely used, the renewel/upgrade offer was as follows:
Alamo Offer - Our best ever offer and lowest ever prices, guaranteed. Only monthly, yearly or with Extras for just per year. Be quick, as this offer is limited to only 600 people
Now, this we feel is unfair and to be honest, if we'd been offered this rate to main account, we'd have probably took it there and then despite not getting the free month which is offered at only anyway according to above.
sad

we have the alamo offer on our other account... if i remember correctly when we renewed the second account the previous your we sent a support ticket to admin and they gave us the same offer
Quote by space_cowboy
We have to admit we're a bit annoyed that despite us being "loyal" to SH for couple of years now, renewal rates seem to be different depending on your account.

We've had the message to renew as we're due for renewal at beginning of april.
Our price for upgrade with extra's (+free month) is
yet, when we checked another account we set up a while ago but rarely used, the renewel/upgrade offer was as follows:
Alamo Offer - Our best ever offer and lowest ever prices, guaranteed. Only monthly, yearly or with Extras for just per year. Be quick, as this offer is limited to only 600 people
Now, this we feel is unfair and to be honest, if we'd been offered this rate to main account, we'd have probably took it there and then despite not getting the free month which is offered at only anyway according to above.
sad

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There will have to be a price increase, but it won't be anyything like the trial prices that we tried, basic annual membership for new members would be , for existing members renewing it would be , extras would be extras, for those with monthly subscription no change to what they pay if they continue.


This to me looks more like a sensible price rise that most should be able to swallow a little better. Thank you for listening kiss
The prices quoted would be £70 with extras I guess anyway.
But it is good to see that the paying members are not getting rewarded for any kind of loyalty, yet new members or free non access get it cheaper!
There is nowhere even remotely like here.............I respect the management for sticking by their contractual agreement. They are simply the first and only people that I have ever experienced on a large website to do so, and trust me we have used the net since it was run on gas. It has to be said all the best things about this site are still the free parts, so it isnt the moeny that doesnt motivate us to use extras, its a lack of interest in what they offer.
I guess what the people running it realised early on is that the real secret to SH, both back when they acquired it and now,is the people. It is far and away simply the largest most genuine repository of real UK people in the lifestyle, and it has to be said that perhaps the life memberships are part of the reason that remains the case.
Thanks Guys
Peace xx