i use an online scanner and it does a lot better than the normal norton/ avg
its called rav antivirus and can be its also free. i normally use this to scan twice a week and have only ever had 2 infected files which i easily deleted
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First of all, I will bore you with the tedium of the setup I have;
Anti-Virus Grisoft AVG
Firewall Sygate Personal Firewall
Spyware Lavasoft Adaware & Spybot Search & Destroy
Along with the majority of posters I am encouraging people to go on to to test their machines - it's one way to put the fear of gawd into people who aren't running a firewall...
All these are free, and quite easily configurable. There is a proviso in that Sygate FW does *not* block port 1025, but this is easily changed via quite simple rules - the help file is rather good here too.
AVG and Adaware have probably had enough said about them that adding my drivel to the mix would probably just muddy the waters. However, you will notice that I use two Spyware detectors - Spybot Search & Destroy is also used. This is complimentary to Adaware - there are nasties that one spots and the other doesn't - and vice-versa. Spybot also has quite a nice way of removing traces from the system logs on your computer. Both Adaware and Spybot (to it's mates) are updated regularly. Spybot can be downloaded from
All of the above programs don't take up much resources, and I heartily recommend them, as well as a nice registry cleaner and other system tweaks - but I shall leave that little cherry to another discussion....
Hope this meaningless ego-fulfilling drivel is some use to someone out there...
Anti-Virus Grisoft AVG
Firewall Sygate Personal Firewall
Spyware Lavasoft Adaware & Spybot Search & Destroy
Along with the majority of posters I am encouraging people to go on to to test their machines - it's one way to put the fear of gawd into people who aren't running a firewall...
All these are free, and quite easily configurable. There is a proviso in that Sygate FW does *not* block port 1025, but this is easily changed via quite simple rules - the help file is rather good here too.
AVG and Adaware have probably had enough said about them that adding my drivel to the mix would probably just muddy the waters. However, you will notice that I use two Spyware detectors - Spybot Search & Destroy is also used. This is complimentary to Adaware - there are nasties that one spots and the other doesn't - and vice-versa. Spybot also has quite a nice way of removing traces from the system logs on your computer. Both Adaware and Spybot (to it's mates) are updated regularly. Spybot can be downloaded from
All of the above programs don't take up much resources, and I heartily recommend them, as well as a nice registry cleaner and other system tweaks - but I shall leave that little cherry to another discussion....
Hope this meaningless ego-fulfilling drivel is some use to someone out there...
Sex God
Kat,
I'm not quite sure but I think the Blaster virus had a 50/50 chance of guessing your operating system wrongly. Either NT+9x or XP+home+Pro+ME+2000
If it got it wrong and you are using a XP then you occasionally got a system error, and the machine counts down and reboots. THere are so many that have different affects on whatever system you use but I think the Blaster was the last big threat that could occasionally log you out.
I'm not quite sure but I think the Blaster virus had a 50/50 chance of guessing your operating system wrongly. Either NT+9x or XP+home+Pro+ME+2000
If it got it wrong and you are using a XP then you occasionally got a system error, and the machine counts down and reboots. THere are so many that have different affects on whatever system you use but I think the Blaster was the last big threat that could occasionally log you out.
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Along with the majority of posters I am encouraging people to go on to to test their machines - it's one way to put the fear of gawd into people who aren't running a firewall...
I tried it....... It gave me this message......
Without your knowledge or explicit permission, the Windows networking technology which connects your computer to the Internet may be offering some or all of your computer's data to the entire world at this very moment!
I currently have Norton 2003 firewall running!!!!!!!
I had another go at checking my Firewall on and I got this message.....
Your system has achieved a perfect "TruStealth" rating. Not a single packet — solicited or otherwise — was received from your system as a result of our security probing tests. Your system ignored and refused to reply to repeated Pings (ICMP Echo Requests). From the standpoint of the passing probes of any hacker, this machine does not exist on the Internet. Some questionable personal security systems expose their users by attempting to "counter-probe the prober", thus revealing themselves. But your system wisely remained silent in every way. Very nice.
So now I am confused (No blonde jokes please!!), which is it???.....
At least I know that my IP address is ok as all it came up with was alot of numbers......
Your system has achieved a perfect "TruStealth" rating. Not a single packet — solicited or otherwise — was received from your system as a result of our security probing tests. Your system ignored and refused to reply to repeated Pings (ICMP Echo Requests). From the standpoint of the passing probes of any hacker, this machine does not exist on the Internet. Some questionable personal security systems expose their users by attempting to "counter-probe the prober", thus revealing themselves. But your system wisely remained silent in every way. Very nice.
So now I am confused (No blonde jokes please!!), which is it???.....
At least I know that my IP address is ok as all it came up with was alot of numbers......
Some Firewalls have "adaptive learning" - what this means is that they show ports as open or closed for a number of ports until the firewall "learns" that it is being probed - it then returns a stealth message on every port from then on. If you repeat the test it still remembers the lesson and gives you a 100% result.
This is not a true firewall because it identifies - even for a split second - that there is a computer on that address. Now someone knows it is there it gives them a chance to have a go at it or just bring it down through a "denial of service" attack.
I am afraid to say that I do not rate software firewalls as they on on the machine they try to protect. They also are really only packet filters. A true firewall is a seperate box which seperates the machine from the internet and uses "stateful inspection" techniques to look inside every packet that comes thorugh it and not just at the header information which tells it which port and protocol it is on.
I can thoroughly recommend some of the Netgear routers as they have built in stateful inspection firewalls and they seem to be stable and stand up to a lot of punishment.
Hope this has helped again....
Fred
This is not a true firewall because it identifies - even for a split second - that there is a computer on that address. Now someone knows it is there it gives them a chance to have a go at it or just bring it down through a "denial of service" attack.
I am afraid to say that I do not rate software firewalls as they on on the machine they try to protect. They also are really only packet filters. A true firewall is a seperate box which seperates the machine from the internet and uses "stateful inspection" techniques to look inside every packet that comes thorugh it and not just at the header information which tells it which port and protocol it is on.
I can thoroughly recommend some of the Netgear routers as they have built in stateful inspection firewalls and they seem to be stable and stand up to a lot of punishment.
Hope this has helped again....
Fred
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I can thoroughly recommend some of the Netgear routers as they have built in stateful inspection firewalls and they seem to be stable and stand up to a lot of punishment.
Hope this has helped again....
Fred
Yes it has Fred, thanks
.....Unfortunately we operate on a peer to peer network which means that we cant incorporate a router (we did try to network it that way but we have about 3million wires etc already, ok slight exageration but you know what I mean).....
I think I will have a look at what other firewalls are avaliable and take it from there.......
Cheers for all your help..... :cheers:
:lol: :lol: Fred oh fellow "annorak " techie, I run with the same setup my friend 
Shireen,
I assume you're using 2 pc's networked together without using a hub? and both of these connect to the net sharing one of the pc modems ?
As Fred suggested, the best solution would be to use a router (netgear highly recomended ! DG814 springs to mind if you're using broadband
) Yes, there is a wide selection of firewall software out there, though bear in mind, they all work on the same principal (norton & Mcafee are the industry standards) however if you do want total security, a hardware firewall is the best approach. Without sounding like a face cream ad and "delving into the science 
"All corporate networks are protected by hardware not software, and whenever I'm installing networks whether peer-peer, or server-client I allways recommend going the hardware route, be it through a router or a seperate dedicated firewall. The hardware firewall incorporated into the router is very effective, coupled with your software firewall, your pc's will virtualy appear invisible to the net. There shouldn't be an excessive amount of cables, just one from each pc connected, a power supply, and the telelphone cable, that's it.
Using a router would a) increase your pc security, and also b) both pc's would be able to connect to the net independantly. You wouldn't have to have both switched on, which I assume you have to with your current setup? They're relatively in-expensive, and straight forward to setup.
Before Jags gets her hands on me, I'll get my annorak....
" techie, I run with the same setup my friend Shireen,
I assume you're using 2 pc's networked together without using a hub? and both of these connect to the net sharing one of the pc modems ?
As Fred suggested, the best solution would be to use a router (netgear highly recomended ! DG814 springs to mind if you're using broadband
) Yes, there is a wide selection of firewall software out there, though bear in mind, they all work on the same principal (norton & Mcafee are the industry standards) however if you do want total security, a hardware firewall is the best approach. Without sounding like a face cream ad and "delving into the science "All corporate networks are protected by hardware not software, and whenever I'm installing networks whether peer-peer, or server-client I allways recommend going the hardware route, be it through a router or a seperate dedicated firewall. The hardware firewall incorporated into the router is very effective, coupled with your software firewall, your pc's will virtualy appear invisible to the net. There shouldn't be an excessive amount of cables, just one from each pc connected, a power supply, and the telelphone cable, that's it.Using a router would a) increase your pc security, and also b) both pc's would be able to connect to the net independantly. You wouldn't have to have both switched on, which I assume you have to with your current setup? They're relatively in-expensive, and straight forward to setup.
Before Jags gets her hands on me, I'll get my annorak....
Blimey Brumlad - are you hacking my PM's?????? :shock:
This is almost word for word what I have just said to someone else.........
One slight difference though - the DG834 has more firewall capability that the DG814 but was not around when I bought my 814.....
And no - I do not have shares in Netgear or work for them!
I know - I'll get my anorak as well..........
Where we drinking Brumlad down at the old "Netbios & Novell IPX" or should we try the new snazzy "VPN & Blowfish" wine bar.
Alright - stop shouting Jags - we're going.......
Fred
This is almost word for word what I have just said to someone else.........
One slight difference though - the DG834 has more firewall capability that the DG814 but was not around when I bought my 814.....
And no - I do not have shares in Netgear or work for them!
I know - I'll get my anorak as well..........
Where we drinking Brumlad down at the old "Netbios & Novell IPX" or should we try the new snazzy "VPN & Blowfish" wine bar.
Alright - stop shouting Jags - we're going.......
Fred
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One slight difference though - the DG834 has more firewall capability that the DG814 but was not around when I bought my 814.....
Tell me about it
Allways the bloody way Fred, the VPN sounds a fine place to be, but according to the rumours, the GFZ's open, and the beer's a chillin !!
brumlad picks up his annorak and sulks off....
Interesting guys... maybe a GFZ discussion topic once the girlies are watchin Corrie or Stenders...
I have network of five puters running through a hub ( think that is right term(8 port Nway 10/100Mbps Fast EthernetSwitch)
of those five one is the Internet login puter connected via a broadband modem.
Have Norton Internet security inc anti virus on the login puter, and various types of Norton on others..
So is that reasonably safe?
Have to set up a printer server machine in due course as at minute printer is on login machine and I have to disable security to print..... and when I have the nerve I want to install a four port netgear wirelss router...
am wandering around in a dark dark room ...
Cheers guys
wish I lived nearer to bedrock!!!
Gmanxxx
I have network of five puters running through a hub ( think that is right term(8 port Nway 10/100Mbps Fast EthernetSwitch)
of those five one is the Internet login puter connected via a broadband modem.
Have Norton Internet security inc anti virus on the login puter, and various types of Norton on others..
So is that reasonably safe?
Have to set up a printer server machine in due course as at minute printer is on login machine and I have to disable security to print..... and when I have the nerve I want to install a four port netgear wirelss router...
am wandering around in a dark dark room ...
Cheers guys
wish I lived nearer to bedrock!!!
Gmanxxx
Well you haven't lost me just yet, but I wanted to avoid a hub as I had serious problems trying to network the bloody things..... (Having said that it was on 98SE and not XP, and the puter had a worm on it which took me 4 weeks to discover despite having anti virus software on it..... By eck you dont arf learn stuff playing with these things...)
If for example I wanted to incorporate a netgear hub into the system I currently run, how easy would it be???...... Is it a matter of just buying new cables (I know the crossover wont work with a hub) and plugging it in and the puter will do the rest, or do you have to configure the pigging thing??
Wanders back to her corner to hide from Jags
If for example I wanted to incorporate a netgear hub into the system I currently run, how easy would it be???...... Is it a matter of just buying new cables (I know the crossover wont work with a hub) and plugging it in and the puter will do the rest, or do you have to configure the pigging thing??
Wanders back to her corner to hide from Jags
Shireen, obviously it varies depending on the make, but basically, assuming you purchase a broadband router, with xp, the installation is very straight forward. All you'll need to buy are the two UTP patch cables to connect to the router. Then run the installation wizard supplied with the it, you will need to know your ISP username, password, etc... to setup the router, and that's more or less it. Your network cards obviously are already setup and configured through norton too, so no worries there.
The netgear routers (dg834 for example), come with a very clear and easy to understand installation guide. I can't emphasize enough how straight forward it is to install. I'm almost putting myself out of a job !
The netgear routers (dg834 for example), come with a very clear and easy to understand installation guide. I can't emphasize enough how straight forward it is to install. I'm almost putting myself out of a job !
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Shireen, obviously it varies depending on the make, but basically, assuming you purchase a broadband router, with xp, the installation is very straight forward. All you'll need to buy are the two UTP patch cables to connect to the router. Then run the installation wizard supplied with the it, you will need to know your ISP username, password, etc... to setup the router, and that's more or less it. Your network cards obviously are already setup and configured through norton too, so no worries there.
The netgear routers (dg834 for example), come with a very clear and easy to understand installation guide. I can't emphasize enough how straight forward it is to install. I'm almost putting myself out of a job !
Nah.. it's not that easy!!!
I watched someone install a router on my PC and link my laptop (cool!!) the other night and I was totally baffled. Mind you I don't understand why 11 men with 1 ball can't get it into the back of a large net, even though they are paid £50,000 + a week without getting the sack - so I'm not the best person to consult!!!
Quote by brumlad
Shireen, obviously it varies depending on the make, but basically, assuming you purchase a broadband router, with xp, the installation is very straight forward. All you'll need to buy are the two UTP patch cables to connect to the router. Then run the installation wizard supplied with the it, you will need to know your ISP username, password, etc... to setup the router, and that's more or less it. Your network cards obviously are already setup and configured through norton too, so no worries there.
The netgear routers (dg834 for example), come with a very clear and easy to understand installation guide. I can't emphasize enough how straight forward it is to install. I'm almost putting myself out of a job !
Hhhmmmmm...... I seem to remember someone else telling me the very same thing about using a crossover cable and it took me 8 weeks to eventually get it done (that includes ordering and waiting for a new puter to arrive as one of the ones was too old to upgrade to XP.....)
Well I will start having a look around at the hub's/router's etc and have a think on whether or not I really want to mess with it.....
BTW I really appreciate all the help everyone has given me
Guys,
It is not that difficult really.
Last night I installed a network card into a machine - installed networking on XP - setup a wireless broadband router on a new connection and had it all up and running inside 30 mins for our friends.
Why we left at 2 in the morning I have no idea!
Go on! - Get a Netgear one! 8)
Fred
It is not that difficult really.
Last night I installed a network card into a machine - installed networking on XP - setup a wireless broadband router on a new connection and had it all up and running inside 30 mins for our friends.
Why we left at 2 in the morning I have no idea!
Go on! - Get a Netgear one! 8)
Fred
Quote by Fred
Last night I installed a network card into a machine - installed networking on XP - setup a wireless broadband router on a new connection and had it all up and running inside 30 mins for our friends.
God, I wish I lived near you!
No probs with the router bit, just need to get my head round the wireless networking!
Alex x x
Quote by FredFlintstone
Guys,
It is not that difficult really.
Last night I installed a network card into a machine - installed networking on XP - setup a wireless broadband router on a new connection and had it all up and running inside 30 mins for our friends.
Why we left at 2 in the morning I have no idea!
Go on! - Get a Netgear one! 8)
Fred
Well I have been asked by my mum to do hers using a wireless router so I will soon find out..... :shock:
Orgasminator
Thought I would add a little to this thread.
Some of you will be receiving SPAM. I have found a free spam filter which seems to work quite well. it traps over 95% of the SPAM sent to me or in rough figures about 130 SPAM messages a day.
Some of you will be receiving SPAM. I have found a free spam filter which seems to work quite well. it traps over 95% of the SPAM sent to me or in rough figures about 130 SPAM messages a day.
Orgasminator
Quote by dillon1002
My god my head is spinning and I have a headacke I keep reaceving emails with a virus in them. My norton anti virus cannot repair them so they are in quarentine. Could someone tell me what do I do with them now. one of the viruses is called w32netskyp@mm. Help I am very confused.
The easiest thing is just to delete them out of the Quarantine Items.
To do that:Open Norton Antivirus
Click on Reports
Click on Quarantine Item -->View Report
Click on Quarantine Items (on the left)
Select each of the quarantined items on the right and delete it
Repeat until all the quarantined items have been deletedThat's all there is to it. Just make sure you update your Norton Antivirus daily.
