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Northwestcouple
Either of them, to be honest.
Apologies to all if this seems pedantic, but it seems to me that, if you have something that you think is worthwhile posting, why not go to the trouble of at least trying to get some of it to make sense by punctuation or correct spelling. I've said before, we all make mistakes and yes, there are some people on the site who are dyslexic. However, the way that some people just don't try, makes their posts open to misinterpretation and very difficult to read.
Bev
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Northwestcouple
Either of them, to be honest.
Apologies to all if this seems pedantic, but it seems to me that, if you have something that you think is worthwhile posting, why not go to the trouble of at least trying to get some of it to make sense by punctuation or correct spelling. I've said before, we all make mistakes and yes, there are some people on the site who are dyslexic. However, the way that some people just don't try, makes their posts open to misinterpretation and very difficult to read.
Bev
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Bev's a teacher methinks :P
And before you go giving smackbottom - there was a tongue in that there cheek lol
KitKat rote –
The gist of this seems to be that to be a ‘full swinger’ is a soft and general term used by many people to indicate 2 couples who meet to swap for penetrative sex between male and female
Define ‘soft swinging’
What ever anyone thinks of the above terminology's, we should all be free to express our views, and our own indivual idear's of swinging, with out any one taking offence to it
James that's exactly the point, we should be able to do that. It's just that someswingers are saying that some other swingers aren't proper swingers because they don't swap for penetrative sex.
Bev
Thought I'd better post my thoughts on this. With Punctuation.
Having only made my first post two days ago I was starting to find this thread rather troubling. My god! We haven't even been to a party/munch(I know what these are now) yet but We have made a concious decision to explore our sexuality. What does this make us, apprentice swingers, junior swingers, trainee swingers, office swinging gimps. I think what I have seen over the past few months (and the couple of days since I registered) is that the majority people on this site are respectfull, genuine, and sincerely caring. The reason this thread has grown so quickly is because, again, the majority of contributers have jumped in to defend what they believe in. I use the word 'majority' because, as with all walks of life you get people who are nasty, uncaring, cruel, selfish, violent etc,etc, and I suggest to you all that there is this element in all walks of life, from builders to lawyers, bin men to doctors, teachers to nurses. Everyone in this thread seems to agree with each other at some point. I hope when we do take the plunge into touching other people where they wee they are as sweet as you guys.
Make love. Not war
How was it for you Bev? (punctuality that is)
Well yes i must admit that sometimes my typing text and grammer is not quite correct and could cause people to misinterprit what has actually been stated. ( u can always tell the mrs post as her allot better than mine ) The only point i was trying to make was that we had not made the post with any malicious intent to any swingers ( soft full whatever ) we just placed a post statiing are they real full swingers in here ie we would like to meet cples were ther is a possiblility of us all swapping ( always a possibility as nothing is ever guarenteed we may not all get on ) and yes even to some pple full means the male partners swapping too whatever consenting adults do to or dont do with eachother is ther buisness noeone elses. The reference to us being named was ment to mean that on the thread where it origonaly started our real names were used and it was not us that deleted this thread from the site where it was posted the site is actually ne cples own site were they removed it therfor this debate couldent continue there. I feel it is however relavent to say that on 1 site our real names are used quite regularly but this is a site we have been managers of for quite some time and been members of for quite some time and know most pple there which acrtually ne cple is a manager themselves so maybe they just fergot what site they were on .One thing i have noted from this is yes nw cple ur right maybe in future posts we should put full swap not full swing as this is more appropriate i beleve for for the bag of full stops i seem to have used a few up here alredy could u please send me some more and show me how to use them. ( the mrs has tried several times to no sucsess )Anyhow i have to go get changed now and pick the mrs up seems we got an invite to the mini munch witch we are gratefull for and do hope to see some of u there take care and have fun. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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people on this site are respectfull, genuine, and sincerely caring

Not me.
I am a twat.
It's true. Clare_Lincs told me. To my face. Repeatedly. lol
Like I said.....The 'Majority'
Like ya style though.
Cheeky Bugger you smackbottom (mostly ok, but some spelling mistakes, since you asked!)
I think that, up to a point, most of us on this threads do agree (with some exceptions).
What concerns me more is that people are insistent upon labelling others' sexuality. Why do they have to do that at all? I don't want a label - what I consider myself to be at the moment is completely different from how I saw myself 5 years ago and it will probably have changed again 5 years hence. If you want to label yourself as anything, it might as well be the same label as me, 'open minded'; that is what I believe everyone on this site and in this lifestyle should be.
Some of the people weren't defending themselves, they were expressing opinions (which they have every right to do). I don't preach to people about their morals, I merely state my own. I don't expect everyone to have the same opinion as me - how boring the world would be if we all thought/did the same! We should all have respect for each others' opinions, even when they differ from ours. It's just how some people put them across that causes upset at times. I hope that I don't offend anyone, but there will always be people who take things in a different way (possibly because of how they feel at a particular moment in time).
Bev (name not label)
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Here's a thought.
What IF some people's definition of 'full swing' meant that, in a ffmm foursome, 'any hole's a goal'?
I am absolutely positive that there are bi couples on the site who will play within that boundary. Does that mean that everyone else is 'soft swing'? I bet plenty of people who class themselves as 'full swingers' would be leaping down from their perches.
Please, I mean no disrespect or offence to any bi person on the site, be they male, female, single or attached!
Bev
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i'm sure to offend someone i'm not up on who's who here yet, and i really aren't trying to apply this to anyone on this thread, it's just an observation based on many years in the game... but i've always found the people who scream the loudest about so called full swing penetrative sex, and moan the loudest about so called soft swing snogging and groping only are single fucking blokes with nothing to offer in return... apart from 30 seconds of frenzy. :twisted:
I think you might just find that there are many many lovely single men on here Lorri, who wouldn't complain about soft swingers. Let's face it, if you are offering what someone doesn't want, you move on. That's what the sensible ones do anyway, and they get the respect that they are due (and often more meets, I reckon). I agree with you though lol, it's mostly the 'sad' single men who complain loudest about 'soft swing'
Bev
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well i do not beleve u have taken this thread from where it was made in your group on msn ( yes it was us that made the thread ) it was not in any way worded as u have put it on here and we did not at any point condem soft swingers we did try to poin this out to u in the third post i ( the mrs nolonger wanted part in the following debate as she just laughed and quote " ffs cant he read what we have put ?"made after being assaulted over the forum i asked why it was that u considered ureslf a soft swinger ??? u do have sex with a fem but ur wife dosnt with the m ( that is entirley ur choice and not for one minite are we critisising this ) and yes we did ask why this was ( reasonable question we assumed ) yes we did say was it because the m was insecure or if the fem just didnt want to ( i see u missed half of my quote ) we dont go out to clubs every week ( although at times we have ) yes we do go dogging occasionaly and dont defend it thats our right to do if we wish ( i wish ud have posted that somwere we could have saved ur comments about it ) and as for the part about full swinger well if u dont full swing ur not a full swinger this dosent mean u dont belong in the swinging comunity if ur just a soft swinger we have posted similar add on here and never ever receved such a comment as u did to us we dont wish for this to become another argument for u to continually misinterptit what we advertised for and what was said in no way did ither of us condem or judge u as soft swingers we even wrote an appology if u interprited it this way to with we got another post slagging us off yet again nither of us appreciate u publicly adressing us by our real names on ur forun ( we have this saved if anyone wishes to see all of the forum posts dispite it being removed for your group )or misinforming pple of what was actually written by ither of us . but what we actually would like is of ru to carry on enjouying ur swinging however it may be and were glad to hre u have found ur place in the scene in the scene
OUR CHOICE ,OUR LIFE AND YES OUR BUSINESS
Actually there are quite a few couples` ads out there quite dismissive about soft swapping (in this context, non- penetrative swap)
Whilst we fully understand couples who would rather meet couples who fully swap (indeed who knows what WE will be doing this time next year?) we do wonder just how much fun it would be to invite a couple OR single male into our bedroom SO dismissive and switched off by soft swing confused ....which by many folks definition is a disinterest in the whole sexual build up and foreplay.
foxys x
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Actually there are quite a few couples` ads out there quite dismissive about soft swapping (in this context, non- penetrative swap)
Whilst we fully understand couples who would rather meet couples who fully swap (indeed who knows what WE will be doing this time next year?) we do wonder just how much fun it would be to invite a couple OR single male into our bedroom SO dismissive and switched off by soft swing confused ....which by many folks definition is a disinterest in the whole sexual build up and foreplay.
foxys x

for us the foreplay is essential, we go the whole hog, full penetration with swapping couples and with single males / females... but the soft build up is all part of the fun... especially with single guys... the tease, the flirting, the tender touches... hubby stroking my hair and encouraging me and the other guy visually and physically... the guy being encouraged to take a cheeky feel of my tits, or slip his hand up my skirt when paul goes off to the toilet for 10 minutes, (watching from outside the room)... a nice gentle but passion filled kiss with the visitor while paul unbuttons my blouse and guides the guys hand inside... all that kind of thing for the build up, taking as long as it takes... swapping with close friends can be spontaneous, all half pissed... in from the pub... on the sofa with the other guy straight away, paul with his wife on the floor or up to bed, and bonking like bunnies within minutes... it's a mix, you take it as it comes (or is that cum's), anyone who moans and wants to get straight down to it when we are in the mood for foreplay, gets fuck all!!
I think if 'soft swapping' means 'foreplay' then the parties I have been to have been on the whole, soft swap parties, I haven't had a great deal of penetrative sex at parties at all but lots and lots of fun touching, licking, sucking, kissing etc! :twisted:
But I can't see anyone calling a Blue and Satin party 'soft' in any way shape or form lol :twisted: so I'm confused a bit again lol!
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I think if 'soft swapping' means 'foreplay' then the parties I have been to have been on the whole, soft swap parties, I haven't had a great deal of penetrative sex at parties at all but lots and lots of fun touching, licking, sucking, kissing etc! :twisted:
But I can't see anyone calling a Blue and Satin party 'soft' in any way shape or form lol :twisted: so I'm confused a bit again lol!

This is soft swinging wink
I`ve been reading this thread on and off,(so apologies if I missed a point) and what has surprised me is the amount of emphasis on defining what a `swinger` is (and all the sidelines that entails).....like it`s important dunno.
What is important to me is my freedom to explore my sexuality, my way, at my pace, and if by some chance someone decides that my approach to this dictates that I am not a swinger and neither is Mars (doing the same as me), then I reallydon`t have a problem with this. The label is secondary to what we are trying to achieve.
If it`s the label which attracts the person first, and we don`t fall into thier criteria, we just won`t fuck them.
Simple really.
I`m having a ball regardless :mrgreen:
Isn`t that how it should be?
Venusxxx
To be honest i couldnt give a crap if because me and Steve like "soft swapping" means were not "full swingers".I dont need to be labelled to enjoy all we get out of it what we want and if anyone wants to tell us that what we want is wrong then they can piss off in my opinion!!!! flipa
Everyone does what they want to get their kicks from,everyones tastes are different so everyones boundaries are different does it matter to anyone else on here that the people we play with we dont shag??? dunno
There is plenty of peeps out there quite happy to soft swap so as long as there is then im a happy bunny biggrin
To be honest this topic has been done to death now on various levils. (soft hard full or half full lol )It seems some have understood in what context our origonal post was made this is all the point ither of us wanted to make.
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To be honest this topic has been done to death now on various levils. (soft hard full or half full lol )It seems some have understood in what context our origonal post was made this is all the point ither of us wanted to make.

Firehott, It`s probable most people have understood the context of your post. Its ok for a thread to wander off slightly if another pertinent question presents itself.
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for us the foreplay is essential, we go the whole hog, full penetration with swapping couples and with single males / females... but the soft build up is all part of the fun... especially with single guys... the tease, the flirting, the tender touches... hubby stroking my hair and encouraging me and the other guy visually and physically... the guy being encouraged to take a cheeky feel of my tits, or slip his hand up my skirt when paul goes off to the toilet for 10 minutes, (watching from outside the room)... a nice gentle but passion filled kiss with the visitor while paul unbuttons my blouse and guides the guys hand inside... all that kind of thing for the build up, taking as long as it takes... swapping with close friends can be spontaneous, all half pissed... in from the pub... on the sofa with the other guy straight away, paul with his wife on the floor or up to bed, and bonking like bunnies within minutes... it's a mix, you take it as it comes (or is that cum's), anyone who moans and wants to get straight down to it when we are in the mood for foreplay, gets fuck all!!

Ahem....wow boink thats quite ....infact...very....hot
foxys x
Quote by foxy30s_cpl
To be honest this topic has been done to death now on various levils. (soft hard full or half full lol )It seems some have understood in what context our origonal post was made this is all the point ither of us wanted to make.

Firehott, It`s probable most people have understood the context of your post. Its ok for a thread to wander off slightly if another pertinent question presents itself.
Quote by lorrilove
for us the foreplay is essential, we go the whole hog, full penetration with swapping couples and with single males / females... but the soft build up is all part of the fun... especially with single guys... the tease, the flirting, the tender touches... hubby stroking my hair and encouraging me and the other guy visually and physically... the guy being encouraged to take a cheeky feel of my tits, or slip his hand up my skirt when paul goes off to the toilet for 10 minutes, (watching from outside the room)... a nice gentle but passion filled kiss with the visitor while paul unbuttons my blouse and guides the guys hand inside... all that kind of thing for the build up, taking as long as it takes... swapping with close friends can be spontaneous, all half pissed... in from the pub... on the sofa with the other guy straight away, paul with his wife on the floor or up to bed, and bonking like bunnies within minutes... it's a mix, you take it as it comes (or is that cum's), anyone who moans and wants to get straight down to it when we are in the mood for foreplay, gets fuck all!!

Ahem....wow boink thats quite ....infact...very....hot
foxys x yes it was ,makes ya wana go to a swingers party lol