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Reading through the adverts for couples, it is noticeable how many of the girls are, at the very least, bi-curious. Conversely, at least 95% of the blokes are described as completely straight – i.e. with no interest whatsoever in other males to bordering on the homophobic.
I certainly find this very hard to swallow (excuse the pun!) and would posit that an awful lot of guys are at least curious to know what it is like to give another a BJ.
So, is the reticence due to the remaining social stigma attaching to same-sex male contact or is female bi-sexuality genuinely much more common or is it that many couples wish to actively discourage males with bi-tendencies, not least because of the intrinsically greater health risks?
I`d be interested in reading the answers to this one. I can`t answer, I broke my brain.
Venusxxx
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I broke my

Sounds painfull
Chris xx
The thought of me giving a man a blow job, or even touching another mans bits makes me feel sick. I am not in the slightest bit curious as to what it would be like because my every instinct tells me it is not for me.
Does that make me homophobic? I don't think so. I have no problem with gay men being gay, I just know it is not for me, in the same way I know some people support Man City but it doesn't mean I want to!!!!!
confused :? :? lol :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Give another
man a blow job......i didn't even want to do the first guy! wink
KinkyLizard <------not too kinky
bA man/lady after my own heart. (Sorry I don't know which you are. Does it matter?)
How right you are. Bi females are accepted, nay, might I say, encourged by lots of men who seem to find it horny. But try to suggest there may be a little gender bias here and they are likely to have some sort of fit.
I'm a strainght female and I know I'm straight cos I've tried bi and it doesn't turn me on. I don't however have a fit or lose my stiffy, metaphorically speaking, if a woman touches me in a group situation.
How many blokes do?
Yes I think it is a social bias and that people are homophobic.
Each to his own preference I entirely agree. But we are very close minded about gay/bi men.
And my main gripe is its a tad unfair. It is so often assumed and expected (and often by men) that ladies who swing are or should be Bi and that they are in fact inferior swingers if they are not. I myself have been pressured in this area. But apparently the situation is not the smae for men. Girls should be bi, men definately should not. HMMM?!?!
This is a stereo typical view I know but does illustarte a point.
I know I'm not bi cos I've tried. Excuse me sir, how do you know your not?
I'm not advocating men should be bi if they're not but lets be fair shall we.
As to the health issue: Is it in fact greater? I'm not concinved.
Be all do bjs and finge/genital contact with what ever gender and I would advocate pentrative sex with a condom what ever the gender. Is male bi activity within these parameters any more risky than any other kind of sex.
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The thought of me giving a man a blow job, or even touching another mans bits makes me feel sick. I am not in the slightest bit curious as to what it would be like because my every instinct tells me it is not for me.
Does that make me homophobic? I don't think so. I have no problem with gay men being gay, I just know it is not for me, in the same way I know some people support Man City but it doesn't mean I want to!!!!! confused :? :? lol :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I'm with Mr Bilko :lol: on this one. I don't think you can simply attribute it to being the last social stigma. Based on observation - I think that though it certainly seems the case that a high proportion of females are bi or bi-curious, the situation regarding males is the opposite. ie. Majority are not even remotely bi-curious and this is reflected in Clubs which may actually have specific nights as 'Bi-Night' ... which conversely implies that there is at least enough interest to merit scheduling such nights.
I've never actually seen any male-male situations in a swingers club, it happens more at fetish clubs but even there, I'd say that the guys involved are mostly gay rather than bi-curious.
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I'm a strainght female and I know I'm straight cos I've tried bi and it doesn't turn me on. I don't however have a fit or lose my stiffy, metaphorically speaking, if a woman touches me in a group situation.
How many blokes do?

Not sure on that but seems like an assumption. In a group situation, these things happen, I've touched a bloke unintentionally and also had the reverse happen but didn't notice any of us leaping back in horror - people take it in their stride.
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Yes I think it is a social bias and that people are homophobic.
Each to his own preference I entirely agree. But we are very close minded about gay/bi men.
And my main gripe is its a tad unfair. It is so often assumed and expected (and often by men) that ladies who swing are or should be Bi and that they are in fact inferior swingers if they are not. I myself have been pressured in this area. But apparently the situation is not the smae for men. Girls should be bi, men definately should not. HMMM?!?!
This is a stereo typical view I know but does illustarte a point.
I know I'm not bi cos I've tried. Excuse me sir, how do you know your not?
I'm not advocating men should be bi if they're not but lets be fair shall we.

I'd agree that nobody should be forced into something they don't want to do - so nobody should be pressuring you in the assumption that you should be bi.
I know I'm not bi without having to try it and I don't agree that until you've tried it, you can't know - nor does that mean I'm homophobic, I just don't follow the logic there.
I think if an idea turns you on, then explore it! I think it is a little harder for men to admit to finding bi fantasies attractive, but I`d like to think that it wouldn`t be so difficult on SH. People are so accepting here.
Venusxxx
I have to agree with Bilko and Icequeen.
Because I had been in monogamous relationships for 15 years or more before finding this site and then deciding to stay, I asked myself many questions and did a little 'soul searching' and decided that I was still straight, but not homophobic.
I try as far as I am able, to be respectful, tolerant and open-minded to and of other peoples' boundaries, requests and desires; but MM is just not for me. I have very few problems with what could be termed 'close contact' during MMF (albeit based on a 20 year old exp.) but have no desire to even 'experiment' with direct playing with another man.
Icequeen's comment struck a cord with me as to the coercion aspect from men. I make no secret of the fact that I am supporting my ex and friend, CA in her bi-curiosities. Even to the point of encouragement. I am after all a normal (whatever that is) healthy male with a sex drive. The point where I feel that my support and encouragement is perceived as persuasion is the point where I will take a massive step back and leave her to it. (Or not)
To answer a critic or two - I will just says that her curiosities were brought out for discussion by her; after we had broken up.
it is a very intersting topic....
again i am another one with bilko on this occasion...
the interesting thing is.. if you have a look in the "couples for men" section of the ad, the thing that took me by surprise is the amount of people who then say "no- bi's" as if the bi guy is going to forget about the woman and jump on the guy...
i do think that a lot of the ad's on there border on a hell of a lot of things... homophobic being one of them...
sean xxxxxxxxx
A good question. When I was 14 I indulged in a good deal of mutual masturbation with other boys, it didn't bother me then and it doesn't bother me now, but then I discovered girls.
In the intervening 40 years I have been wanked by men in saunas or Jacuzzis three or four times and I can't say resisted the roaming hand or raised any objection, it was OK, I enjoyed the experience and I have no qualms or embarrassment about it, but there is a line in the sand. I could not do more than that to save my life, no I don't want to try giving a blow job, and I certainly don't want to kiss or hug or more.
I think it has something to do with non-sex sex, a kind of mutual scratching of an itch, just as it was when I was a boy. There was never any pre-sexual affection in our wanking, the boys in question never became "special friends", we just did it, laughed and went our own way.
It probably makes me a total pervert but I think of myself as straight and nothing in my past makes me feel I'd like to swap sides. I guess a bit like a girl using a sex toy, it's another means to an orgasm, but just as mechanical and just as insignificant but marginally more satisfactory than doing it yourself.
Give another man a blow job......i didn't even want to do the first guy! wink
Very funny lol :lol: :lol:
Its because most men lack imagination - end of story!!
hhhhmmmm! i will possibly live to regret this! this is purely hypothetical ok!
i wonder how many men, in say a group sex situation, completely carried away, suddenly finding themselves getting the best BJ of their lives, on noticing it's actually a bloke, will continue not to notice just for the duration???
it's just an honest question! not an admission! i can't personally give you an answer on that, and the one experiment i ever had when i was 18 led to such severe long-lasting, self-recrimination i've avoided even the possibility of that discovery ever since, for those reasons! just a thought! and i do not define myself as even bicur, let alone bi!
neil x x x ;-)
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i wonder how many men, in say a group sex situation, completely carried away, suddenly finding themselves getting the best BJ of their lives, on noticing it's actually a bloke, will continue not to notice just for the duration???

I think I'd notice, might even become hysterical. Not actually because it was a man, but because I'm a health risk freak. If, on the other hand, I happened to be wearing my mac at the time I'd probably lie back and enjoy it, but it's passive, I couldn't return the complement.
However, the group sex thing hasn't happened with me for 30 years, and a blow job from a man has never happened at all, so who can really know.
Good to see so much interest and thoughtful response ...... I'll let this run on for a while and then pehaps comment further.
IceMaiden ..... Just so you know, I am the camel half of R&K!
Quote by Sgt Bilko
another mans bits

Bit prissy for SH isn't it, another mans "bits" indeed!
Call a spade a spade, that is when it's not a fuckin' shovel.
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i wonder how many men, in say a group sex situation, completely carried away, suddenly finding themselves getting the best BJ of their lives, on noticing it's actually a bloke, will continue not to notice just for the duration???

I think I'd notice, might even become hysterical. Not actually because it was a man, but because I'm a health risk freak. .
Why would a man's mouth pose more of a health risk than a woman's? :shock:
Or am I being naive? redface
Maybe men clean their teeth less than women? :shock: rolleyes wink :wink: :wink:
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Why would a man's mouth pose more of a health risk than a woman's? :shock:
Or am I being naive? redface

Not naive, me probably being prejudiced, but probably I'd feel happier with a condom whoever's mouth was being kind to me. What flavour do you prefer?
Maybe bi-men are more inclined to anal ...... hence potentially higher risk
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Maybe bi-men are more inclined to anal ...... hence potentially higher risk

I tried anal once with a girlfriend, I don't think either of us found the experiment that rewarding, I'll stick to the pleasure palace myself.
So you're saying you'd never accept a blow job from a woman who'd ever had anal sex?
And so what if some bi men are into anal sex? Bi men know how to practice safe sex, you know - probably better than straights do rolleyes
Think about it.... sounds like double standards to me confused
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So you're saying you'd never accept a blow job from a woman who'd ever had anal sex?
And so what if some bi men are into anal sex? Bi men know how to practice safe sex, you know - probably better than straights do rolleyes
Think about it.... sounds like double standards to me confused

Is it me you're referring to? 1st para, I didn't say that. 3rd para, of course it's a double standard, so I'm a bit prejudiced but it's my body and my choice. However actually what I said was that I'd feel happier wearing a condom in any casual blow job situation. I think that's clear.
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Why would a man's mouth pose more of a health risk than a woman's? :shock:
Or am I being naive? redface

Not naive, me probably being prejudiced, but probably I'd feel happier with a condom whoever's mouth was being kind to me. What flavour do you prefer?
I've never had a condom in my mouth, what flavour would you reccomend? dunno
A condom in a mouth!!!!????????????//
Thats disgusting!!
Before we all start sidetracking on whether or not bi/gay men are more or less likely to practice safe sex (is that abstinence?), it would be nice to get back to the original topic
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Why would a man's mouth pose more of a health risk than a woman's? :shock:
Or am I being naive? redface

Not naive, me probably being prejudiced, but probably I'd feel happier with a condom whoever's mouth was being kind to me. What flavour do you prefer?
I've never had a condom in my mouth, what flavour would you reccomend? dunno
Me neither, I'm sure there's a selection but I doubt the chocolate will taste much like Cadburys or the strawberry much like P-Y-O!
Musketeer, I wasn't referring to you. Of course, if you want to have Bjs with a condom that is totally your choice. I was referring to Crosspatch's comment that bi men are more inclined to anal dunno