If we do have the UK policeforce looking at all our mail then i think that it would be safer to give mobile or other details direct to anyone who gets intouch with the person requesting a date.
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Arranging dates isn't illegal so they can read my emails if they want, though they're not very interesting 
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The reason for "If" is because we can not accuse them of peeking unless they step forward.
Man alive you on any police force?
TS
Man alive you on any police force?
TS
Myself and MrsFC are both regulars on this site, we are very normal people(if there is such a thing), we like a laugh and a drink or two 
We are on this site because we like the idea of the liestyle. we are not swingers yet but hey! there's plenty of time.
In the short time we have been here we have enjoyed the conversation and the witty remarks and feel we have become part of a big family.(mush I know)
We are looking forward to our first munch and getting to meet a lot of new people who we feel we may have something in common with.
The reason I'm writing this is I AM A POLICE OFFICER! Now some of you may be uncomfortable with that, but I believe in honesty. I could have kept my mouth shut but as a lot of people have already said about ad's people shouldn't pretend to be who they are not. Now it's already been said but there is nothing illegal on this site and unless bin laden and his mates are coming to a police have other more important things to concentrate on, without worrying about the sexual antics of normal people.
My God it! may feel like it sometimes but we are not living under communism yet!!
We are on this site because we like the idea of the liestyle. we are not swingers yet but hey! there's plenty of time.In the short time we have been here we have enjoyed the conversation and the witty remarks and feel we have become part of a big family.(mush I know)
We are looking forward to our first munch and getting to meet a lot of new people who we feel we may have something in common with.
The reason I'm writing this is I AM A POLICE OFFICER! Now some of you may be uncomfortable with that, but I believe in honesty. I could have kept my mouth shut but as a lot of people have already said about ad's people shouldn't pretend to be who they are not. Now it's already been said but there is nothing illegal on this site and unless bin laden and his mates are coming to a police have other more important things to concentrate on, without worrying about the sexual antics of normal people.
My God it! may feel like it sometimes but we are not living under communism yet!!
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Thanks Mark
I would like to add if people feel they cannot be there normal selves knowing I am on here. thenas much as I'd hate it I would leave the site :cry: :cry: As I have already said both me and MrsFC enjoy intercting with you all but I dont want to spoil it for others. :cry:
No way mate!! Your views are clear, concise and welcomed by everyone, I'm sure!!
Thanks for being honest and expressing a view that I personally have held since I found this site. Whether the people on SH are active swingers or speculative, they are without doubt the kind of people I'd like to meet down at the local for a pint!! The friendship shown here is the most important thing in the world!! There's certainly a great warmth shown by all at SH.
Take care.
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Thanks for that Thread link Fran & Stu - it exlpored this theme usefully.
But hey - life's too short.
If people have been popping into some of my mails, I hope they haven't got holographic computers - or some might get their prying eyes poked out by some of the JPEGs
Agree that a ruthless, hard crackdown, on underage and child www activities is only right.
PS. MrFC & MrsFC I forbid you to quit! :high-smile:
But hey - life's too short.
If people have been popping into some of my mails, I hope they haven't got holographic computers - or some might get their prying eyes poked out by some of the JPEGs
Agree that a ruthless, hard crackdown, on underage and child www activities is only right.
PS. MrFC & MrsFC I forbid you to quit! :high-smile:
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The reason I'm writing this is I AM A POLICE OFFICER! Now some of you may be uncomfortable with that........
No discomfort here at all and I admire your candidness. 8)
Just one thought about the munch........
Please don't go around telling all the girlies that you've got a police uniform, a pair of handcuffs and a 12" black truncheon upstairs in your room. Spare a thought for the rest of us!
Steve
Sex God
Thankyou for all your comments, i'm touched,(been told that once of twice before). :cheers:
I think I said somewhere somewhen, (It might even be in the thread quoted). I would expect a site like this to be monitored for content by the police and other interested parties. They have not way of knowing if the site is responsible other than by reading what is on it!
Yes, there is also the issue of policing dogging and other activities that could be termed 'in the public interest'. However, it would be true to say that if dogging activities had NEVER offended the public, it would never be policed. Again, it is the few irresponsible ones who make it necessary for all activities to be policed.
It is not that anyone feels that our Swinging Activities need to be monitored - it is for the same reason that the site is moderated. Sites like this attract those whose seek to take advantage of the vulnerable.
I would like to think that the way this site is conducted makes it an unlikely target for those un-wanted elements.
It is like protecting your house from burglars - you will not stop the determined burglar, you will just make them go elsewhere.
It is interesting to note though - one of the few occupations that IS openly advertised on here, is that of the Armed Services!
:lol: :lol:
I will say this in defence of those (in particular doggers) who feel that they do get harrassed by the police. As with any organisation, there are arseholes in the police force, in all likelyhood, there are individual police officers who get a kick out of this, or are simply bone idle and glad of the opportunity to use this to get out of doing any real work. That is because they are aresholes, not because they are police officers.
For the record, no, not a police officer, or an ex police officer, but I did work for them for a long time.
lhk
Kat
Yes, there is also the issue of policing dogging and other activities that could be termed 'in the public interest'. However, it would be true to say that if dogging activities had NEVER offended the public, it would never be policed. Again, it is the few irresponsible ones who make it necessary for all activities to be policed.
It is not that anyone feels that our Swinging Activities need to be monitored - it is for the same reason that the site is moderated. Sites like this attract those whose seek to take advantage of the vulnerable.
I would like to think that the way this site is conducted makes it an unlikely target for those un-wanted elements.It is like protecting your house from burglars - you will not stop the determined burglar, you will just make them go elsewhere.
It is interesting to note though - one of the few occupations that IS openly advertised on here, is that of the Armed Services!
:lol: :lol: I will say this in defence of those (in particular doggers) who feel that they do get harrassed by the police. As with any organisation, there are arseholes in the police force, in all likelyhood, there are individual police officers who get a kick out of this, or are simply bone idle and glad of the opportunity to use this to get out of doing any real work. That is because they are aresholes, not because they are police officers.
For the record, no, not a police officer, or an ex police officer, but I did work for them for a long time.
lhk
Kat
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Sorry FC - her avatar is SOO much better than yours!!
Welcome to both of you, you'll have a lot of fun on here, I'm sure.
Mal
Welcome to both of you, you'll have a lot of fun on here, I'm sure.
Mal
I believe that dogging will come under Common Law and is an arrestable offence - engaged in a sex act to outrage public decency etc. Wouldn't like to say if you can 'conspire' to commit the offence because if you can can then it could be dealt with the same as the actual offence itself. Have to get the books out an check. And as to the old bill reading reading these it would put me right in the shit...evening all etc
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I will say this in defence of those (in particular doggers) who feel that they do get harrassed by the police. As with any organisation, there are arseholes in the police force, in all likelyhood, there are individual police officers who get a kick out of this, or are simply bone idle and glad of the opportunity to use this to get out of doing any real work. That is because they are aresholes, not because they are police officers.
Having been a biker for some twenty five years, yes I really do ride a motorbike, I've had more than my fair share of runins with our boys in blue. Now don't get me wrong, like Kat said you get assholes in all walks of life including bikers
and it's not just doggers who get hassle for what they do. Now I don't want to get into all the anti police stuff 'cos in the main they do a great job and many are straight up people. It's just that for a long time I've not felt able to trust the police, due to the way I've been treated as a biker, now this has rather soured my viewpoint a little. It's interesting to note that now I ride a rather expensive German motorcycle I get much less hassle, books and covers spring to mind MrFC wrote:
Thanks Mark
I would like to add if people feel they cannot be there normal selves knowing I am on here. thenas much as I'd hate it I would leave the site As I have already said both me and MrsFC enjoy intercting with you all but I dont want to spoil it for others.
MrFC.....You have as much right to be here as any of us and should not feel that because of the job you have you are not welcome. You should enjoy the same respect and courtesy that everyone else here is entitled to. Please don't even think about leaving.
Orgasminator
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I believe that dogging will come under Common Law and is an arrestable offence - engaged in a sex act to outrage public decency etc. Wouldn't like to say if you can 'conspire' to commit the offence because if you can can then it could be dealt with the same as the actual offence itself. Have to get the books out an check. And as to the old bill reading reading these it would put me right in the shit...evening all etc
I'm not 100% sure about the legality so take what I say with a pinch of salt....
With the new law(s) and amendments to the various acts, the main thing will be "likely to offend or cause harm/offence" its a bit of tidying up of some common law into state law (if thats the correct term)
I think that if dogging is done late at night, in a place only likely to be visited at that time by doggers (same with crusing) then arguably no one is being or likely to be offended. If the same was to be done at say 3 in the afternoon then the likelyhood of minors and random visitors goes up and with that the likelyhood of causing offence.
One thing this covenment is dead carefull about is upsetting the gay community, so any guidelines or rules of interpritation of the law may basically clarify when its likely to be a problem, or not... Gay crusing and dogging, especially in london, has been over looked for years; to suddenly clamp down on that would cause an outrage, but to not clamp down on the gay community but only on the hetro comunity is definatly grounds for a HR case.... whats good for one is good for another!
One place up this way is so out of the way that while a nice picnic spot during the day it could only be frequented by doggers at night... Its not even on a major route for reps using it as a stop off, its away (miles) from residential houses so again the likelyhood of people stumbling on going ons is nil. So it would be hard to argue that anything happening there was causing or likely to cause offence..... Except if someone that went there to be offended so they could complain!!!!!
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yes, but don't forget, the police are also members of the public and if they turn up and say they were offended, it doesn't matter tthat 'normal' members of the public are tucked up in bed miles away - you're nicked!!
Without dwelling on this too much, a lot of this has been covered previously with the full Acts quoted, so don't get too bogged down in the rights and wrongs of being caught - just don't get caught!!!
Mal
Without dwelling on this too much, a lot of this has been covered previously with the full Acts quoted, so don't get too bogged down in the rights and wrongs of being caught - just don't get caught!!!
Mal
Wise words Mal, 'just don't get caught'. For fear of sounding boring...Under Common Law for this the General public does include police officers and the only need is to that more than one person 'could' see the act, not did. And it is not necessary to prove that anyone was infact annoyed or insulted (R v May 1989). Catch all law really. As it happens Dogging isn't my thing but if you're going to do it the law can quite easily 'lift' you and you're generally struggling for a defence.
Sex God
I believe that the police will try to do single guy doggers under the new offence of voyeurism - Section 67 of the Sexual offences Act 2003 - read it here:
They'd do you for exposure too I've no doubt.
Previously such things were usually only public order offences, but now the police have more powers to do people for sexual offences. You do have to be literally caught in the act so I wouldn't worry about it too much. As most doggers tend to sit for hours and hours in car parks with absolutely no action going on at all, no crimes are being committed of any sort
They'd do you for exposure too I've no doubt.
Previously such things were usually only public order offences, but now the police have more powers to do people for sexual offences. You do have to be literally caught in the act so I wouldn't worry about it too much. As most doggers tend to sit for hours and hours in car parks with absolutely no action going on at all, no crimes are being committed of any sort
Orgasminator
Bluexxx wrote:
I have been 'pulled' by various Police Officers on numerous occasions over the past 30+ years in a variety of both open and woodland Dogging Sites.
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On each occasion I have been able to prove to their complete satisfaction that I have a perfectly innocent reason to be there, at any time of the year, either by day or night.
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A few have, quite naturally, doubted my explanation, but when shown the equipment I carry in my vehicle, some have even offered to clear the area of other people, to enable me to carry on with my explanation as to the reason I am there.
My method is to have a totally legitimate excuse, it's believable, and it's provable. Recently one Officer even radioed his HQ and had a web search done on my name, the results of this web search confirmed what I had told him. Now I don't have a web site of my own, but the Google search carried out at the Police H.Q. using my real name, turned up many 'hits' on sites on three continents. All these 'hits', none of which were posted by me, was conclusive evidence to the Policeman that I was there with a perfectly valid reason. I have even received apologies for having being bothered.
:rotflmao:
What I carry in my vehicle in not inexpensive, the cost of purchasing it runs into 4 figures but it is equipment that I genuinely use, especially on those nights when there is no 'dogging action'.
Before I get bombarded with PM's requesting details of just what this equipment is, I must state that having the equipment is not enough, you must also have the knowledge to explain it's usage and have the Web Site data to back up your claims. Funnily enough I have even been requested to set up this equipment so that it's usage will keep those 'Pesky Doggers' away from that place and so save the Police the trouble of returning that night. :grin: :grin:
No, I'm not going to say what the equipment or my excuse is. To the best of my knowledge there are at least another 2000+ identical sets of such equipment is daily usage throughout the U/K but as far as I am aware I am the only owner who uses it as a cover when Dogging.
I may post this excuse when I am on my deathbed but not before. :twisted: :twisted:
I would be interested to read any ideas as to what you think my equipment and excuse is though.
Harry0
I believe that the police will try to do single guy doggers under the new offence of voyeurism -
I have been 'pulled' by various Police Officers on numerous occasions over the past 30+ years in a variety of both open and woodland Dogging Sites.
:( On each occasion I have been able to prove to their complete satisfaction that I have a perfectly innocent reason to be there, at any time of the year, either by day or night.
8)
A few have, quite naturally, doubted my explanation, but when shown the equipment I carry in my vehicle, some have even offered to clear the area of other people, to enable me to carry on with my explanation as to the reason I am there.
My method is to have a totally legitimate excuse, it's believable, and it's provable. Recently one Officer even radioed his HQ and had a web search done on my name, the results of this web search confirmed what I had told him. Now I don't have a web site of my own, but the Google search carried out at the Police H.Q. using my real name, turned up many 'hits' on sites on three continents. All these 'hits', none of which were posted by me, was conclusive evidence to the Policeman that I was there with a perfectly valid reason. I have even received apologies for having being bothered.
:rotflmao:What I carry in my vehicle in not inexpensive, the cost of purchasing it runs into 4 figures but it is equipment that I genuinely use, especially on those nights when there is no 'dogging action'.
Before I get bombarded with PM's requesting details of just what this equipment is, I must state that having the equipment is not enough, you must also have the knowledge to explain it's usage and have the Web Site data to back up your claims. Funnily enough I have even been requested to set up this equipment so that it's usage will keep those 'Pesky Doggers' away from that place and so save the Police the trouble of returning that night. :grin: :grin:
No, I'm not going to say what the equipment or my excuse is. To the best of my knowledge there are at least another 2000+ identical sets of such equipment is daily usage throughout the U/K but as far as I am aware I am the only owner who uses it as a cover when Dogging.
I may post this excuse when I am on my deathbed but not before. :twisted: :twisted:
I would be interested to read any ideas as to what you think my equipment and excuse is though.
Harry0
