Well said
From any reasonable persons point of view
live and let live
Judy ignore this ignorance and hope it will not happen again
Very true, I know some of my likes and dislikes would be totally different to others here. Unfortunately some people don`t look past the `liberated sex` angle, but as you say, there is a lot more to it than that.
For me the idea of Swinging Sex is a wonderful compliment to my marraige. It shows us that we have a wonderful understanding of each others needs, and the commitment to one another to cater for this. I can think of few things more satisfying than experiancing fun with others which I am also sharing with Mars, knowing that this is something we allow because of our love for one another. We wish to let each other experiance as much as possible because we are in love, not in spite of it, and we both wish to be a part of that for each other.
There is more to it than just that also, but thats how it works between us, in our marraige. The friendship and sharing ourselves with others is important for all kinds of reasons, we don`t just see others as tools for our enjoyment.....................unless I am having one of my deviant fantasies of course, in which case it works both ways! :twisted:
Venusxxx
Venus - well done for starting this thread.
I too was very struck by Judy's post. I was also slightly embarrassed because I hadn't really appreciated that she had been the victim of intolerance and felt guilty that I hadn't noticed. The beauty of this place is that people are appreciated for their thoughts and personalities and are not judged in any way. Having met Judy I would certainly have been happy to leap to her defence if she was under attack in any way.
There are a lot of members (and I am one of them) who have never 'swung' at all. No doubt we all joined for different reasons, but we have stayed because of the wonderfully free and friendly atmosphere here and the friendship we have found. Some of us have been fortunate enough to find a lot more than that, and will ever be grateful to this site as a result. What we have here is a genuine community where people watch out for each other. It is a privilege to be part of it.
Venus, I am with you when you draw the line at non-consentual activity. I could never condone anything that was exploitative or relied upon coercion. Anything that broad minded (and, more importantly, open minded), consenting, mature adults find fun is fine by me - whether or not it is something that I would choose to indulge in myself. It doesn't affect their worth as a person and has no bearing on how I feel about them. When you read posts on this site you have no idea (usually) what the poster looks like, sounds like, what their background is or anything else. You can form an opinion of them based on what they have written entirely without prejudice. If only the world at large was more like that!
Intolerance of others (except the prejudiced and intolerant) should have no place anywhere but especially not here.
Will
I don't have much more to say, just wanted to say that I agree with everything that has been said on this thread.....
I actually told my best friend about my thoughts on Swinging and said that I would love her to meet some of my online friends at a Munch....her instant reaction was that I was taking her to an Orgy....I tried to explain this was not the case at a Munch but she totally changed the subject....so now I've given up trying to explain myself to other people.
I've decided that as long as what I do doesn't harm anyone else there is no reason for me to change......this place is an amazing relief to find other people who think the way I do.
I'd like to agree with all that has been said on here, and also add that some of the attitudes displayed by some people towards others can be seen as offensive but to be honest I think it's a great credit to this site that there isn't a big problem with this.
But, and please don't take this the wrong way, Is there a danger that people may be afraid to express their opinions if they feel they do not fit in with the majority of people on here. Some are very headstrong and confident and will think f**k you if you don't agree but some may not feel that. I am not advocating people have a pop at each other or be offensive to each other through clumsily made points (I know as I have made some) but sometimes it just feels that people are following each other in order to fit in.
Back to the main point and that is we as a group, whatever camp we are in, are a minority in this world as Dreamer Helens point outlined and If we can't feel comfortable here, whoever we are in this environment then what hope is there for us??
God forbid the day that we all agree with each other!
Along with death, disagreement is the only certainty in this world. Disagreemnt challenges us to re-examine our views of the world and often is the seed of change; sometimes it merely reaffirms our thoughts and feelings.
Freedom is the right to hold and harbour personal beliefs and desires and perform actions based on those beliefs conditional upon a social responsibility that we shall apply so as to not cause harm to others.
We cannot deny others the right to believe and act as they wish providing they do not seek to harm or control other memebers of society.
Intolerance is the fuel of war and weapon of tyranny.
Live (listen) and let live ...is my motto
And if the others don't agree with you ....F**k em !!!!!