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i am a single male fact
i am 50 fact
my real pic on profile fact
if somebody pm's me i always reply
if i pm somebody 9 times out of 10 not even the courtesy of a reply
i admit i am no george clooney or brad pitt but i am 100 per cent genuine
so where have i gone wrong i chat in the chatroom i try my best to join in some of the forums. but alas poor yorick no sucess yet
but will keep plodding away
Just a couple of responses to your post.
!.............you may be quite happy to reply to the odd PM you get, but you aren't a female having to cope with the immense amount of crappy one-liners that arrive in our inbox every day.
2............a lot of women WON'T reply to un-solicited PM's anyway.
3.............you've only been on here a short while, and although you say you try to join in on the forum, you've made 12 posts................not exactly a huge effort IMHO
4..............chatroom? Sleaze central more like. Very few of the geniune couples or women from here even go in there any more.
just keep trying smile
keep sending the pms etc
make sure u tell them something bout u in the pm
dont just put one line
(although i reply to all pms........takes me ages.......... even the one liners..........im to polite for my own good i think........)
the chat room is weird but iv met a fella from there who is great..............u just hav to wade through all the others ..........!!!
hav fun
xx
thera re genuine people out there - but nmost of themaren't justafter a quick fuck. You wil meet people but don't rush it - get to know people first on forums
and as Lissa said - read the advert clearly - it is so damned annoying for people when they haven't been read. After a few , people tend to get a tad pissed off.
thanks for the replies i will take all the comments on board .you are right about the chatroom it does get sleazy at times. i will try to post more and keep plugging away all good things come to those who wait so they say
I hope you don't find this too harsh but, in announcing your 'honesty', how truly honest is it?
Its debatable how much you apply your level of honesty. Have you told your workmates? Would you announce it at the next parent and teachers meeting? Hmmmmmm..........
I'm only considering the logic beneath this, as it fundamentally undermines the response you should get.
Quote by Lissa
2............a lot of women WON'T reply to un-solicited PM's anyway.

What a shame. sad It was on another, similar website to this, that an unsolicited email of mine sparked a wonderful and very satisfying friendship. biggrin :D :D :D This friendship is still going strong, two years later.
Maybe Lissa's 'lot of women' would gain vastly more from SH if they were a little more open-minded....? smile
Do people actually tell fibs? Am i the only honest scouser in the building?
Realises im standing on my soap box {well this is my 2nd post,grins}
methinks its a good time to introduce us,takes a deep breath........
Hiya,
Im Dee, the smaller cuter one of the duo wave . Rich is the other half. Just relocated back up north.
Have put pics on our profile cos I can :lol2: {doesnt admit to how long it took me to suss it out}
Nuff said love Dee bolt
Quote by Rich_and_dee
cuter one of the duo wave . Rich is the other half. Just relocated back up north.
Have put pics on our profile cos I can :lol2:

And very nice they are too.
Welcome to the asylum.
Nice car !
Is honesty the best policy ?????????????
Yes.
Regardless of what it costs you in the short term.
I think you'll find the main problem is you are one of many.
The ladies can pick and choose. There are endless numbers of guys put there, so really, it involves, luck, patience, humour, and of course charm lol
Before the internet became as widespread as it is now, it was easier to meet ladies and couples, because it involved writing a letter. Not many quick shag guys would do this.
Now you have to compete with these guys as well, and the ladies get fed up with daily PM's saying the same thing, often from the same guy, who has one letter he sends out to everyone. In turn people get annoyed and hardened, see another PM from a genuine chap, and might treat it in a more critical way than before.
Saying all that, your in a good place to start having fun biggrin
So keep going, and eventually you never know :D
An honest scouser - hang on, do they actually exist???
OK, OK... smackbottom :smackbottom: :smackbottom:
Sorry.. redface
But welcome to the world of the weird, Rich and Dee... 'this is reality Jim, but not as we know it'. Have a really good time here. biggrin :D :D
But are people honest? I doubt if anyone really knows the answer, but it's probably yes. I suspect our standards of honesty (newbies and regulars alike) are not so different from the big outside world. In other words, we sort of tell the truth most of the time.
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2............a lot of women WON'T reply to un-solicited PM's anyway.

What a shame. sad It was on another, similar website to this, that an unsolicited email of mine sparked a wonderful and very satisfying friendship. biggrin :D :D :D This friendship is still going strong, two years later.
Maybe Lissa's 'lot of women' would gain vastly more from SH if they were a little more open-minded....? smile
if you'd been around for more than a month you'd realise the women on here don't need to respond to every despetate 'fuck me now' one line PM's. in fact they can pretty much choose from a huge range of guys. as for open minded, you obviously don't know many of them as they are more than open minded. there is little for them to gain and i don't know where this idea of yours has come from, there has recently been an sudden influx of wankers who seem to think the ladies on here are just provided for the pleasure and sexual satisfaction, which is why most of us regs now play elsewhere so why should they respond to every PM?
I'm in the fortunate position of being able to PM most of the regular females on the site and probably get a reply, but this is only because most of them will know me from the site and because i treat them with the respect deserved. It's been stated many time before 'THIS IS NOT A QUICK SHAG SITE!' even with the recent changes, swinging is about much more and a different attitude and until you guys work that out we'll just watch you stumble round aimlessly, thats when we're not having fantastic sex with the fantastic women who grace this site
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... thats when we're not having fantastic sex with the fantastic women who grace this site

... and men! :shock: wink
Here, here - well said that man :thumbup:
Quote by Bloke2005
... thats when we're not having fantastic sex with the fantastic women who grace this site

... and men! :shock: wink
Here, here - well said that man :thumbup:
Oi, im not TFL smackbottom
rotflmao
Needs must wink
Some times I do wonder if people really know the meaning of the word honesty.
For those that know me / and I know them, I have a very open and honest policy.......tell the truth........and be honest......... shame that is not always the case
Quote by duncanlondon
I hope you don't find this too harsh but, in announcing your 'honesty', how truly honest is it?
Its debatable how much you apply your level of honesty. Have you told your workmates? Would you announce it at the next parent and teachers meeting? Hmmmmmm..........
I'm only considering the logic beneath this, as it fundamentally undermines the response you should get.

Whats telling everyone in RL got to do with honesty?
have you ever heard the term 'private life'? or descretion?
do your parents know all about your sexual activities and fantasies? and do you know theirs?
from all the posts i have discovered patience is a virtue a sense of humour is a must and take the rough with the smooth :high-smile:
Quote by man50
i will try to post more and keep plugging away all good things come to those who wait so they say

Just a quik tip from a fellow newbie it's the quality not quantity of your posts that count.
Just sit back find your feet and get yourself known don't moan about lack of interest in you and if you can offer good advice in any of the subjects posted i'm sure people would be gratefull.
After all as it has been said many times before this is not a quick shag site more a community
of friends who share a interest in the swinging scene. So if you are genuine as you say you are, and not just here after a quick shag i'm sure you will settle in just fine given time. Just let your personality shine through and you will be just fine smile
I think its to do with making a decision to be honest, open and unashamed of who you are.
Certainly most of my friends know I don't handle relationships well, but enjoy the regular sex. Some of them are more than understanding of the situation. :twisted:
And as for the parents thing... well, my folks know that I don't like having a missus too much, and I had the unfortunate experience of having the room next to theirs when I was a kid... not very pleasant on anniversary night after they'd consumed several bottles of wine... and on christmas eve too, now I think about it (and most of this is deeplty-regressed memory - do you understand the pain I have gone through to answer this post?!?!) for years I hated santa.
does that count?
Quote by man50
from all the posts i have discovered patience is a virtue a sense of humour is a must and take the rough with the smooth :high-smile:

a fast learner..... good luck in your quest :thumbup:
Meaty, have you been sniffing Pritt sticks again, you're almost making sense :grin:
Mike & Man :thumbup:
doing fine guys, keep up the good work.
Quote by Lissa
Just a couple of responses to your post.
!.............you may be quite happy to reply to the odd PM you get, but you aren't a female having to cope with the immense amount of crappy one-liners that arrive in our inbox every day.
2............a lot of women WON'T reply to un-solicited PM's anyway.
3.............you've only been on here a short while, and although you say you try to join in on the forum, you've made 12 posts................not exactly a huge effort IMHO
4..............chatroom? Sleaze central more like. Very few of the geniune couples or women from here even go in there any more.
lissa response 4 is a bit below the belt hun :cry: we have been going in the chatroom for about 2 weeks now and yes your quite right there are some knobs and ill mannered tossers in there evil just the same as anywhere really but there are also some very nice and genuine peeps also in the chatroom , we have found some really nice couples and single guys to chat to and have fun with in there lol so come on hun dont tar everyone with the same brush :lol: :lol: xx
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Mike & Man :thumbup:
doing fine guys, keep up the good work.

Thanks meat but its all an act actually i'm just like all the other one liner guy's I think we are churned out in a factory in siberia lol lol
Only joking and thanks for the :thumbup:
Quote by man50
from all the posts i have discovered patience is a virtue a sense of humour is a must and take the rough with the smooth :high-smile:
hiya man 50 we have just read your post with interest , we think its not you personally its just your in a very competative areana there are loads and loads of single guys so you need to stand out from the crowd as it were if you`ll pardon the pun lol we, as a couple have had loads of mails from single guys to which we do try to reply to the nice ones :lol: the one liner oi !!! give us a shag jools type go straight in the bin mad and good riddance wink as for the chatroom we personally enjoy it NOT everyone in there is a moron :wink: and we chat on a regular basis to some very nice single guys as well as couples :lol: anyway we do hope you find what your looking for man50 and good luck :wink: :wink:
Just another thought biggrin
Its also about perception (i have my nice head on today)
Some guys think they are doing the lady in question a favour confused
Whereas in fact, the lady is doing you the favour. They are letting you put part of your manhood (obviously a huge 12" one :D ) inside them, which if you think about, it is pretty invasive. Many guys wouldn't be too happy to have something similar happen to them lol
Well thats how I look at it anyway :D
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Just another thought biggrin
i have my nice head on today.....

want to give me some rotflmao
Quote by meat2pleaseu
Just another thought biggrin
i have my nice head on today.....

want to give me some rotflmao
ER think you need more than I can give :D
:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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4..............chatroom? Sleaze central more like. Very few of the geniune couples or women from here even go in there any more.
lissa response 4 is a bit below the belt hun :cry: we have been going in the chatroom for about 2 weeks now and yes your quite right there are some knobs and ill mannered tossers in there evil just the same as anywhere really but there are also some very nice and genuine peeps also in the chatroom , we have found some really nice couples and single guys to chat to and have fun with in there lol so come on hun dont tar everyone with the same brush :lol: :lol: xx
R+J. I think Lissa meant the decline in the quality of converstaion in the chatroom.
It used to have a real sense of community, from ish in the morning when the "breakfast crew" were in, to all times of the day when you could actually just nip in and have a real conversation with REAL people instead of the "quick shag" "watch me cum on cam" lot that seem to be in the majority in there now.
I'm not digging at anyone for their preferences, and maybe it does work for some, but I like to talk to people and have a conversation before I meet them for a coffee and a chat. I'm not just in this for the sex. Yes, it is nice when it happens, but it's not the be-all and end-all of life after all eh?
Marcuso now steps off his soap box biggrin
As for the original post on this thread..............
Quote by man50
i am a single male fact
i am 50 fact
my real pic on profile fact
if somebody pm's me i always reply
if i pm somebody 9 times out of 10 not even the courtesy of a reply
i admit i am no george clooney or brad pitt but i am 100 per cent genuine
so where have i gone wrong i chat in the chatroom i try my best to join in some of the forums. but alas poor yorick no sucess yet
but will keep plodding away

Have a look here.....
http://www.swingingheaven.co.uk/swingers-forum/viewtopic/20451.html
Just be yourself. Eventually it will happen.
Honesty is definitely the best policy.
Marcuso
thx for the hello's...story attached to car pic..5am up a mountain, -3 degrees. Who said ya get wiser as ya get older rotflmao