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Just curious to know where you draw the line, in your head.
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Is mutual masturbation sex?
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Sex God
Well just thinking back to when I was a husband....if the mrs said to me "were you and her (could've been him) having sex? and I responded "hell no....just a bit of mutual masturbation", I'm kinda thinking that might not have been a well received answer for a non swinging wifey. Don't think she would have agreed that it wasn't having sex.
On the other hand, if there's someone reading this who disagrees, and who doesn't fancy having sex with me....how about poppin' 'round for a bit of mutual masturbation?
On the other hand, if there's someone reading this who disagrees, and who doesn't fancy having sex with me....how about poppin' 'round for a bit of mutual masturbation?
Sex God
Quote by pebble
Just curious to know where you draw the line, in your head.
it could be construed as a sexual act between two people but not actual sex
Warming the Bed
For it to be sex something other than fingers or toes has to go inside :twisted:
Sex God
Quote by pebble
Just curious to know where you draw the line, in your head.
My days of drawing the line are long gone.....but it's sex; mutual masturbation is a sexual act involving two or mor people.
Apparently it's actually preferred, by many people, to penetration or oral sex.
I have met people who just got off on watching someone masturbate, but I guess I was bound to, all things considered.
Now I understand where we've been going wrong all these years. It seems most here are suggesting sex is intercourse and nothing more. I've always thought that sex is a collective term for a whole variety of sexual activities and that would most definitely include masturbation, mutual (what does that mean?), non mutual or whatever. I also believe you can only perform masturbation on yourself, so by mutual masturbation I believe (hope) the OP means two people masturbating together. If they're touching each other then it's what's commonly known as foreplay surely? Either way, it's most definitely sex. Sex is a state of mind that starts in the head and if you're lucky includes physical involvement with others at some point. IMHO.
Sex God
Quote by Andy_Jules
Just curious to know where you draw the line, in your head.
Sometime ya see a question and think 'did they ask that because they're trying to justify something??
but anyway, no 'line' necessary, if I'm getting down and durty be it with whomever we're stroking/strumming/wanking our respective bits for each others gratification (mutal masturbation) then yeah it's sex and rite nice it is too...most blokes will have shed their manfat before I reach my summit which when it no longer becomes mutual (cos they've done their deed) and can sometimes (if it's a one off filth session) be a little bit uncomfortable.
You did ask
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just wondering if you had sex anywhere amounst all this
Sex God
Of course it's bloody sex. If touching each others genitals for pleasure its sex. If it wasn't, and only intercourse was, then oral sex would be called oral masturbation not oral sex. Let's face it Bill Clinton is the only person in the world who believes (yeah right) that it isn't.
Quote by Lost
Of course it's bloody sex. If touching each others genitals for pleasure its sex. If it wasn't, and only intercourse was, then oral sex would be called oral masturbation not oral sex. Let's face it Bill Clinton is the only person in the world who believes (yeah right) that it isn't.
no, sorry lost but you're completely wrong here. Bill, bless his heart, was honest in his responses to all intents and purposes. It was that disgraceful monika lewdinsky that led him astray by telling him that if there was no penetration then it was just playing doctors and nurses. I think an apology needed here before mr ex president starts extradition proceedings to put you behind bars for the rest of your natural!
Sex God
Quote by capricornten
Of course it's bloody sex. If touching each others genitals for pleasure its sex. If it wasn't, and only intercourse was, then oral sex would be called oral masturbation not oral sex. Let's face it Bill Clinton is the only person in the world who believes (yeah right) that it isn't.
no, sorry lost but you're completely wrong here. Bill, bless his heart, was honest in his responses to all intents and purposes. It was that disgraceful monika lewdinsky that led him astray by telling him that if there was no penetration then it was just playing doctors and nurses. I think an apology needed here before mr ex president starts extradition proceedings to put you behind bars for the rest of your natural!
it is my opinion that there are sexual acts and then there is sex there is only a difference when consent is involved
Sex God
Quote by Lizaleanrob
Of course it's bloody sex. If touching each others genitals for pleasure its sex. If it wasn't, and only intercourse was, then oral sex would be called oral masturbation not oral sex. Let's face it Bill Clinton is the only person in the world who believes (yeah right) that it isn't.
no, sorry lost but you're completely wrong here. Bill, bless his heart, was honest in his responses to all intents and purposes. It was that disgraceful monika lewdinsky that led him astray by telling him that if there was no penetration then it was just playing doctors and nurses. I think an apology needed here before mr ex president starts extradition proceedings to put you behind bars for the rest of your natural!
it is my opinion that there are sexual acts and then there is sex there is only a difference when consent is involved
LoL Capricorn my bad - Sorry Bill
L&R is sex not a sexual act
Sex God
Quote by Lost
Of course it's bloody sex. If touching each others genitals for pleasure its sex. If it wasn't, and only intercourse was, then oral sex would be called oral masturbation not oral sex. Let's face it Bill Clinton is the only person in the world who believes (yeah right) that it isn't.
no, sorry lost but you're completely wrong here. Bill, bless his heart, was honest in his responses to all intents and purposes. It was that disgraceful monika lewdinsky that led him astray by telling him that if there was no penetration then it was just playing doctors and nurses. I think an apology needed here before mr ex president starts extradition proceedings to put you behind bars for the rest of your natural!
it is my opinion that there are sexual acts and then there is sex there is only a difference when consent is involved
LoL Capricorn my bad - Sorry Bill
L&R is sex not a sexual act
it may be losty but is a sexual act actual sex ????
Sex God
In my opinion (for what that's worth) sex is when a cock enters an orifice. Cock in ass = anal sex, Cock in mouth = oral sex, cock in pussy = sex.
Anything else is a sexual act but not sex. Masturbation is a sexual act whether you are doing it alone or with someone else. If I'm wrong then I just had sex with myself!
Anything else is a sexual act but not sex. Masturbation is a sexual act whether you are doing it alone or with someone else. If I'm wrong then I just had sex with myself!
Warming the Bed
I think it really depends if we are looking for a dictionary/legal definition, or what individuals personally believe???
I would argue that sex is a mutually enjoyable shared consensual experiences, which can involve a variety of acts. And I also believe that the two people do not even have to be in the same room, anyone ever heard of phone sex?
Like many people on here I have had sex with both males and females (i think the lesbian community would have a lot to say about this issue). I have had some fantastic experiences with other women, who I definitely have not penetrated with my cock, but i sure as hell have had sex with. At the same time, I have had some ridiculous experiences with men, who in my opinion have simply cum, but not provided me with any opportunity for pleasure, and would not consider the act to be sex (but they would).
I would argue that sex is a mutually enjoyable shared consensual experiences, which can involve a variety of acts. And I also believe that the two people do not even have to be in the same room, anyone ever heard of phone sex?
Like many people on here I have had sex with both males and females (i think the lesbian community would have a lot to say about this issue). I have had some fantastic experiences with other women, who I definitely have not penetrated with my cock, but i sure as hell have had sex with. At the same time, I have had some ridiculous experiences with men, who in my opinion have simply cum, but not provided me with any opportunity for pleasure, and would not consider the act to be sex (but they would).
You are free of course to consider or choose not to consider it sex based solely on whether you enjoyed it or not - however I would submit that whether you enjoyed it or not is not the question, you had sex and that's the end of it.
The fact that the sex was utterly rubbish and left you entirely unfulfilled does not detract from the fact that you have had sex.
But to get back to the point, I do not accept that mutual masturbation is sex - you see people on here masturbating over the webcam all the time, whether it be one on one. or as is normally the case, one woman and 10 men, all violently masturbating... I would say that the masturbation was mutual - whether or not it was mutual with consent is not the question - the fact remains it was mutual, but I would not on any estimation say it was sex whether it was 1 to 1 or 1 to 10.
The fact that the sex was utterly rubbish and left you entirely unfulfilled does not detract from the fact that you have had sex.
But to get back to the point, I do not accept that mutual masturbation is sex - you see people on here masturbating over the webcam all the time, whether it be one on one. or as is normally the case, one woman and 10 men, all violently masturbating... I would say that the masturbation was mutual - whether or not it was mutual with consent is not the question - the fact remains it was mutual, but I would not on any estimation say it was sex whether it was 1 to 1 or 1 to 10.
Sex God
Is mutual masturbation sex?
I've just remembered and checked: it would have got four points for each person on the Pervy Points Challenge.
http://www.swingingheaven.co.uk/swingers-forum/viewtopic/290089.html
Sexpert
I reckon "the Dutch rudder" isn't sex 
Sex God
Think I misunderstood this thread.....d'ya mean there might actually be someone out there who would fancy wanking me off?
Sex God
Quote by MikeNorth
Is mutual masturbation sex?
I've just remembered and checked: it would have got four points for each person on the Pervy Points Challenge.
http://www.swingingheaven.co.uk/swingers-forum/viewtopic/290089.html
Oh now that was a great thread! (Alas, I never won :sad
Quote by noladreams
Is mutual masturbation sex?
I've just remembered and checked: it would have got four points for each person on the Pervy Points Challenge.
http://www.swingingheaven.co.uk/swingers-forum/viewtopic/290089.html
Oh now that was a great thread! (Alas, I never won :sadT'was a great thread, although the thought of taking a little notebook round with me and totting up the points could be a little counter productive. You'd think in these days of mobile technology there'd be an app for that! :lol2:
PS. If someone out there decides to make an app..... just remember I thought of it first, so cut me in! ;)
Sex God
Quote by noladreams
Is mutual masturbation sex?
I've just remembered and checked: it would have got four points for each person on the Pervy Points Challenge.
http://www.swingingheaven.co.uk/swingers-forum/viewtopic/290089.html
Oh now that was a great thread! (Alas, I never won :sadI'm sure you were in the top few though. I was probably about 439th. :sad:
