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Barge pole and touch come to mind.
phredd
No-one is forcing you
Steve
Good input into a very topical thread and your comments are noted.
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Press and media contacts please raise a support ticket and state that you are PRESS here.
This is in the Contact Us section on the left of your screen.
The Press have their own corridor. Its a facility available to MEMBERS. Therefore they exist as members of SH. Which they are entitled to be. But...........................
Also just wondered if being offered a fee for a story compromises the AUP 'Attempts to sell a service or product of any kind.' :? Which as members (re above) they are offering. :?
I understand business is business etc. But there seem to be some illogicalities and inconsistencies, which would be better reconciled as part of any debate.
That facility does also exsist to non-members though- I just logged out & tried.
Quote by Sarah
yep me too!
And I don't see a problem ...
Then let me enlighten you and anyone else who shares that opinion......
Your idea of swinging may be different from mine and mine from Joe Bloggs and his from someone else’s. As we know, there are plenty enough who think swinging is a route to instant sex with depraved desperate women. Do we really need to help even more imbalance articles appear in the press stating "sources from a leading swinging website described swinging as....". OK - it could end up being a balanced article - but looking at how many balance people are on here to how many twats and dickheads.... I feel the odds are not in favour of that happening.
Journalists are not all thick fuckers - they know how to get information out of people.... it's their job! And when the offer of a bit more money for a bit more dirty gossip (all anonymously) comes to the table - well who knows? Many people on here find it hard to keep their gob shut in PM and on MSN about who is doing who without even being asked - fuck knows what they’d say if they had a professional interviewer twisting them around their finger, then twisting their words whilst slapping another tenner on the table.
If you want to help balance articles get into the press - write them yourself and send them in.
Hooking up journalists with SH members to spill the beanz has too many negative possibilities - many more than I have mentioned or have time to detail here tonight.
Quote by PoloLady
yep me too!
And I don't see a problem ...
Then let me enlighten you......
Your idea of swinging may be different from mine and mine from Joe Bloggs and his from someone else’s. As we know, there are plenty enough who think swinging is a route to instant sex with depraved desperate women. Do we really need to help even more imbalance articles appear in the press stating "sources from a leading swinging website described swinging as....". OK - it could end up being a balanced article - but looking at how many balance people are on here to how many twats and dickheads.... I feel the odds are not in favour of that happening.
Journalists are not all thick fuckers - they know how to get information out of people.... it's their job! And when the offer of a bit more money for a bit more dirty gossip (all anonymously) comes to the table - well who knows? Many people on here find it hard to keep their gob shut in PM and on MSN about who is doing who without even being asked - fuck knows what they’d say if they had a professional interviewer twisting them around their finger, then twisting their words whilst slapping another tenner on the table.
If you want to help balance articles get into the press - write them yourself and send them in.
Hooking up journalists with SH members to spill the beanz has too many negative possibilities - many more than I have mentioned or have time to detail here tonight.
Quote by Calista
yep me too!
And I don't see a problem ...
Then let me enlighten you......
Your idea of swinging may be different from mine and mine from Joe Bloggs and his from someone else’s. As we know, there are plenty enough who think swinging is a route to instant sex with depraved desperate women. Do we really need to help even more imbalance articles appear in the press stating "sources from a leading swinging website described swinging as....". OK - it could end up being a balanced article - but looking at how many balance people are on here to how many twats and dickheads.... I feel the odds are not in favour of that happening.
Journalists are not all thick fuckers - they know how to get information out of people.... it's their job! And when the offer of a bit more money for a bit more dirty gossip (all anonymously) comes to the table - well who knows? Many people on here find it hard to keep their gob shut in PM and on MSN about who is doing who without even being asked - fuck knows what they’d say if they had a professional interviewer twisting them around their finger, then twisting their words whilst slapping another tenner on the table.
If you want to help balance articles get into the press - write them yourself and send them in.
Hooking up journalists with SH members to spill the beanz has too many negative possibilities - many more than I have mentioned or have time to detail here tonight.
Exactly! :worship:
Fee
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Quote by Dawnie
...When SH put a questionnaire on the home page there were many comments about how crap it was. It didn't ask questions that we as swingers found important to us. It didn't give us the options to put the truths down about who we had played with, had sex with and the options were piss poor.
Read here
http://www.swingingheaven.co.uk/swingers-forum/viewtopic/87680.html?highlight=homepage
Now SH have given the its members an oportunity to put that right (yes I do know press twist things) but no one is making you speak to anyone.
Please do tell me if I am wrong here... BUT... are you actually saying that the survey was being carried out for the press? :shock:
If not , then why do we need the press to be involved to correct a site survey?
Of course ...
nobody would ever consider it an easy way to may be get their membership fee back by making up some juicy shit...
nobody ever talks bollox on here...
nobody ever exaggerates...
nobody ever lies...
nobody ever lets slip any info like real names, locations, dogging sites, social venues...
nobody on here has ever got the wrong end of the stick or put 2 and 2 together to make 43
nobody on here ever has an axe to grind...
there have never been any jealous people on here...
there have never been and scorned women on here...
everyone on here is a loyal and happy member...
everyone on here holds discretion as their number 1 priority...
nobody on here has photos of other members...
nobody on here has found out any personal details about other people that could link them to their jobs and family...
So may be we shouldn't be concerned
nobody would ever consider it an easy way to may be get their membership fee back by making up some juicy shit...
nobody ever talks bollox on here...
nobody ever exaggerates...
nobody ever lies...
nobody ever lets slip any info like real names, locations, dogging sites, social venues...
nobody on here has ever got the wrong end of the stick or put 2 and 2 together to make 43
nobody on here ever has an axe to grind...
there have never been any jealous people on here...
there have never been and scorned women on here...
everyone on here is a loyal and happy member...
everyone on here holds discretion as their number 1 priority...
nobody on here has photos of other members...
nobody on here has found out any personal details about other people that could link them to their jobs and family...
So may be we shouldn't be concerned
Orgasminator
Hey just as long as they quote both my email address and say I'm the guy with the 12" cock I'm up for it.... although people may be a lil disapointed that its only 8 and 14/16ths when they meet me in person. 
:lol: :lol:
Oh and also say I'm a totaly nuttz kinda guy that likes tying people up and spanking them or flogging them and I take photographs of the debautched events.
(Note... the above text is copywrite me.... a fee of 7500GBP is payable on copying or part copying of the text either in or out of context and/or edited including any individual individual word from the above text.)
On a more serious note... I'd nto have no problem in being interviewed just as long as I got editorial rights including the right to not be quoted if I felt the text was mis-leading.
:lol: :lol: Oh and also say I'm a totaly nuttz kinda guy that likes tying people up and spanking them or flogging them and I take photographs of the debautched events.
(Note... the above text is copywrite me.... a fee of 7500GBP is payable on copying or part copying of the text either in or out of context and/or edited including any individual individual word from the above text.)
On a more serious note... I'd nto have no problem in being interviewed just as long as I got editorial rights including the right to not be quoted if I felt the text was mis-leading.
Quote by piercedJon
On a more serious note... I'd nto have no problem in being interviewed just as long as I got editorial rights including the right to not be quoted if I felt the text was mis-leading.
But would you be happy for Here_4_Adultery, raging_hardon, vindictive_bitch and stupid_ass_cnt_who_wants2make_a_name4himself_and _happens2have_got_hold_of_munch_photos (these usernames may have been altered slightly) to give an accurate, sensible, balanced and discrete account?
Quote by piercedJon
(Note... the above text is copywrite me.... a fee of 7500GBP is payable on copying or part copying of the text either in or out of context and/or edited including any individual individual word from the above text.)
BTW, you cannot copywrite the English language (actual words) only the piece of work
Quote by Medic_1
How things change.
If that Login article (message) had been wrote months ago by just a member of SH it would have been ridiculed, laughed at and screemed about then locked or deleted.
Ever since SH was put on the web by Mark we have fought to keep the press out. Now Admin are asking us to allow them in. WHY ??? . Its a business, thats why. Any publicity, good or bad will bring in new members and help fill the coffers.
Anyone who thinks that the "press" will make a nice glowing report about swingers and the swinging scene are living in cloud cuckoo land.
Barge pole and touch come to mind.
phredd
Not completely true since Mark did allow this to happen at least once.
Quote by Mark
OK, we'll let them off with a plug this once
I hope they make the next one as well as they did the first one...
...and that phone number is a one-off exception to the rules too btw
Taken from here.
However, I agree that in general the ethos of the site was to keep the gutter press very much at arm's length and for a very good reason. The press is interested first and foremost with selling their wares and good news doesn't often sell well. While there have been the occasional good articles and programmes on swinging, overall the tendancy has been to give a very poor impression of the scene. To actively encourage press involvement seems not to be in the best interests of the membership of this site.
Sex God
Quote by LadyFeeBee
yep me too!
And I don't see a problem ...
Then let me enlighten you......
Your idea of swinging may be different from mine and mine from Joe Bloggs and his from someone else’s. As we know, there are plenty enough who think swinging is a route to instant sex with depraved desperate women. Do we really need to help even more imbalance articles appear in the press stating "sources from a leading swinging website described swinging as....". OK - it could end up being a balanced article - but looking at how many balance people are on here to how many twats and dickheads.... I feel the odds are not in favour of that happening.
Journalists are not all thick fuckers - they know how to get information out of people.... it's their job! And when the offer of a bit more money for a bit more dirty gossip (all anonymously) comes to the table - well who knows? Many people on here find it hard to keep their gob shut in PM and on MSN about who is doing who without even being asked - fuck knows what they’d say if they had a professional interviewer twisting them around their finger, then twisting their words whilst slapping another tenner on the table.
If you want to help balance articles get into the press - write them yourself and send them in.
Hooking up journalists with SH members to spill the beanz has too many negative possibilities - many more than I have mentioned or have time to detail here tonight.
Exactly! :worship:
Fee
XX
can i add a few more.....:worship::worship::worship:
just wait for all those sunday tabloids to do there "clubs expose'" again.....
Quote by poshkate
problem being, who's gonna give it to them?
As I read it, it's an appeal from admin for those who would be willing to put their stories in the papers to come forward. I assume that they will only put people forward to the jouralists if they believed that they would make a true represantation of the site and the swinging world.....
Why?
I may be being a bit cynical here, but let's bear in mind that the majority of members on this site are "single" males and therefore the main source of revenue is from single guys.
What would be more profitable for the owners:
a) an arcticle explaining that swinging is not necessarily a route to a quick shag.
b)That the site and swinging scene is full of desperate women gagging to give out blow jobs to the first guy to come along.
Answers on a postcard to:
The SH "How to get more deluded males to part with their cash" competition
SH Towers
PO Box 69
Sex God
Just for Fred!
es for you.Quote by PoloLady
...When SH put a questionnaire on the home page there were many comments about how crap it was. It didn't ask questions that we as swingers found important to us. It didn't give us the options to put the truths down about who we had played with, had sex with and the options were piss poor.
Read here
http://www.swingingheaven.co.uk/swingers-forum/viewtopic/87680.html?highlight=homepage
Now SH have given the its members an oportunity to put that right (yes I do know press twist things
Please do tell me if I am wrong here... BUT... are you actually saying that the survey was being carried out for the press? :shock:
If not , then why do we need the press to be involved to correct a site survey?
I am still wondering about this
Quote by PoloLady
...When SH put a questionnaire on the home page there were many comments about how crap it was. It didn't ask questions that we as swingers found important to us. It didn't give us the options to put the truths down about who we had played with, had sex with and the options were piss poor.
Read here
http://www.swingingheaven.co.uk/swingers-forum/viewtopic/87680.html?highlight=homepage
Now SH have given the its members an oportunity to put that right (yes I do know press twist things
Please do tell me if I am wrong here... BUT... are you actually saying that the survey was being carried out for the press? :shock:
If not , then why do we need the press to be involved to correct a site survey?
I am still wondering about this
Me too.
I can't see any logical connection :?
Quote by PoloLady
...When SH put a questionnaire on the home page there were many comments about how crap it was. It didn't ask questions that we as swingers found important to us. It didn't give us the options to put the truths down about who we had played with, had sex with and the options were piss poor.
Read here
http://www.swingingheaven.co.uk/swingers-forum/viewtopic/87680.html?highlight=homepage
Now SH have given the its members an oportunity to put that right (yes I do know press twist things
Please do tell me if I am wrong here... BUT... are you actually saying that the survey was being carried out for the press? :shock:
If not , then why do we need the press to be involved to correct a site survey?
I am still wondering about this
Just caught up on this and I have to say I'm wondering too?
I was under the impression that it was just for the site.
Jas
XXX
Quote by Jas-Tim
...When SH put a questionnaire on the home page there were many comments about how crap it was. It didn't ask questions that we as swingers found important to us. It didn't give us the options to put the truths down about who we had played with, had sex with and the options were piss poor.
Read here
http://www.swingingheaven.co.uk/swingers-forum/viewtopic/87680.html?highlight=homepage
Now SH have given the its members an oportunity to put that right (yes I do know press twist things
Please do tell me if I am wrong here... BUT... are you actually saying that the survey was being carried out for the press? :shock:
If not , then why do we need the press to be involved to correct a site survey?
I am still wondering about this
Just caught up on this and I have to say I'm wondering too?
I was under the impression that it was just for the site.
Jas
XXX
I also said
Quote by Dawnie
Phredd very quickly I'll tell you why I think the post is there and I might be way off
I typed the first thing off the top of my head , nothing more to it than that :dunno:
Sex God
We put the note up for a day and thanks to all of you that replied.
Thanks also for all of the comments in this thread as there are two more things that we have to put in place before we put any members in contact with any jounalists;
1. Conditions on the Journalist appoaching us.
2. Guidelines for any members talking to the journalists
The last thing that we would want is gutter press type articles about SH, so we will be careful and if any of you have any suggestions for 1 or 2 above please feel free to pm me in case I miss something.
Thanks also for all of the comments in this thread as there are two more things that we have to put in place before we put any members in contact with any jounalists;
1. Conditions on the Journalist appoaching us.
2. Guidelines for any members talking to the journalists
The last thing that we would want is gutter press type articles about SH, so we will be careful and if any of you have any suggestions for 1 or 2 above please feel free to pm me in case I miss something.
Suggestions for the guidelines:
Any mention of real life names in the article will result in a life time ban.
Any mention of venues for social/meets will result in a life time ban.
The disclosure of photographs or any image taken from the site or any other photograph which contains members from the site will result in a life time ban.
No direct references to personal details of any member, such as where they live, the nature of their employment – any inappropriate disclosure will result in a life time ban.
No financial gain will be made from partaking in any interview (the reason behind this is to remove temptation to ignore any of the above). Accepting payment will result in a life time ban.
As participants will be acting as representatives for the site membership, the usernames of the representatives will be made available to the membership.
Any mention of real life names in the article will result in a life time ban.
Any mention of venues for social/meets will result in a life time ban.
The disclosure of photographs or any image taken from the site or any other photograph which contains members from the site will result in a life time ban.
No direct references to personal details of any member, such as where they live, the nature of their employment – any inappropriate disclosure will result in a life time ban.
No financial gain will be made from partaking in any interview (the reason behind this is to remove temptation to ignore any of the above). Accepting payment will result in a life time ban.
As participants will be acting as representatives for the site membership, the usernames of the representatives will be made available to the membership.
Quote by st3v3
We put the note up for a day and thanks to all of you that replied.
Thanks also for all of the comments in this thread as there are two more things that we have to put in place before we put any members in contact with any jounalists;
1. Conditions on the Journalist appoaching us.
2. Guidelines for any members talking to the journalists
The last thing that we would want is gutter press type articles about SH, so we will be careful and if any of you have any suggestions for 1 or 2 above please feel free to pm me in case I miss something.
I cannot think of a single circumstance in which it would be a good idea for anyone on this site to talk to anyone from the press. Not one. Not ever.
If the site owners want to put forward a professional communicator for PR that's up to them, but members can only be losers. If we haven't learned the way of the press by now, (by we I mean everyone not just SH people), then the human race is too stupid to live.......then again....
Quote by st3v3
We put the note up for a day and thanks to all of you that replied.
God help us all. *tuts, and shakes head in disgust*
Pololady suggested:
: As participants will be acting as representatives for the site membership, the usernames of the representatives will be made available to the membership.
Amen to that.
Quote by st3v3
1. Conditions on the Journalist appoaching us.
2. Guidelines for any members talking to the journalists
The last thing that we would want is gutter press type articles about SH, so we will be careful and if any of you have any suggestions for 1 or 2 above please feel free to pm me in case I miss something.
I take it the journalists and their previous work has been researched?
If the press really do want to understand and get a balanced idea about the swinging scene and SwingingHeaven...
Why don't you (the Admin) get them to produce a list of the type of questions they have and what they want to hear about. Then post the questions on the site, allowing a range of members to 'openly' give their views and comments. Then either:
A - just let them read it.
B - remove all the silly crap and send it to them.
This would deter people from:
1 - saying shit they shouldn't.
2 - gossiping a pile of crap.
3 - dishing the dirt for dosh.
4 - slipping up and saying wayyyyyyyyy too much in terms of personal details and sensitive information.
Thus:
- we would all know the purpose of the questions (transparency is a wonderful thing)
- we would all know what was being said.
- we could challenge any bollox before it hit the news stand.
- no nasty surprises.
Why don't you (the Admin) get them to produce a list of the type of questions they have and what they want to hear about. Then post the questions on the site, allowing a range of members to 'openly' give their views and comments. Then either:
A - just let them read it.
B - remove all the silly crap and send it to them.
This would deter people from:
1 - saying shit they shouldn't.
2 - gossiping a pile of crap.
3 - dishing the dirt for dosh.
4 - slipping up and saying wayyyyyyyyy too much in terms of personal details and sensitive information.
Thus:
- we would all know the purpose of the questions (transparency is a wonderful thing)
- we would all know what was being said.
- we could challenge any bollox before it hit the news stand.
- no nasty surprises.
Quote by PoloLady
If the press really do want to understand and get a balanced idea about the swinging scene and SwingingHeaven...
Why don't you (the Admin) get them to produce a list of the type of questions they have and what they want to hear about. Then post the questions on the site, allowing a range of members to 'openly' give their views and comments. Then either:
A - just let them read it.
B - remove all the silly crap and send it to them.
This would deter people from:
1 - saying shit they shouldn't.
2 - gossiping a pile of crap.
3 - dishing the dirt for dosh.
4 - slipping up and saying wayyyyyyyyy too much in terms of personal details and sensitive information.
Thus:
- we would all know the purpose of the questions (transparency is a wonderful thing)
- we would all know what was being said.
- we could challenge any bollox before it hit the news stand.
- no nasty surprises.
I think this is the best idea(s) so far.
