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As the UK’s leading on-line forum for swingers you will not be surprised to know that we get a fairly frequent stream of requests from newspapers, magazines and the television for information about swinging. In order to add a human interest angle to their story, a popular request from journalists is to talk to people who swing and to learn of their experiences and opinions of swinging. As you are no doubt aware Swinging Heaven does not as a matter of policy disclose any information about its members to any journalists.
As a member of the site we thought that you might be able to help us with some enquiries from the media from time to time by offering to talk to journalists. The enquiries we would ask you to help us with would be of a professional and positive nature and the journalist would fully respect the need for you to remain anonymous and not to have photos or pictures taken if you wish. Occasionally a journalist will offer to pay you for your story.
If you are prepared to help us we would be most grateful and would ask that you contact us. When a request arises we will then get in touch to see if you are interested in that particular story.
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Sex God
yep me too!
And I don't see a problem, if you want to help and talk to the press, then you click the link, if you don't then you ignore it.
Simple really
And I don't see a problem, if you want to help and talk to the press, then you click the link, if you don't then you ignore it.
Simple really
:rotflmao: :rotflmao:
Sex God
Quote by duncanlondon
So its a general broadcast.
Oh well ho hum, I'll put away the make up and cancel the hairdresser. :cry:
Same here, saw the text when I logged in just now and thought "Ah, respect at last!". No such luck!
Quote by Sarah
yep me too!
And I don't see a problem, if you want to help and talk to the press, then you click the link, if you don't then you ignore it.
Simple really
At first I quite agreed with Sarah' post ... but thinking on it I'm not so sure. It's not something I think would be easy to do but slips of the tongue happen, and we all know people in the community who are less than discreet.
What is someone "outed" someone else? Its all very well saying that the press would respect the need for anonymity, since when has that ever been true? and whilst the interviewee may be anonymous, anyone talked about during the intervew might not be so ..
Whilst I respect that some people want to raise the negative aspect of the lifestyle, it doesn't sell papers, normalising swinging doesn't make profit like scandal does.
Whilst the owners may be grateful for the free publicity, inflx of new members, I'm not sure that the community would feel the same if someone is the subject of an expose.
Cx
Sex God
need to get admin trained up to full fledged members of SH.......
then they could do it all themselves!!!!
:D :D
then they could do it all themselves!!!!
:D :D Quote by Calista
Whilst the owners may be grateful for the free publicity, inflx of new members, I'm not sure that the community would feel the same if someone is the subject of an expose.
Cx
I don't think the admin have done it for the publicity - they're constantly getting calls from the press, constantly giving em the brush off and constantly banning the ones that get caught signing up on SH - in other words, they do try to keep the SH site clear of the press.
What they don't know tho, is whether there would be anyone on the site willing to talk to em, answer questions etc, hence the notice, so it was put up to give anyone that doesn't mind chatting, the appropriate link to do so.
I do agree with your post tho Calista - some people might be discreet about themselves, but have no qualms about naming others....... seen it in the press over and over
These people are no better than the gutter press themselve imo. There are high profile people on here, who's jobs would be in jeopardy if named. But there again, these type of people are gonna flog their story whether there's a notice up on here or not.But there might also be the traditional swinger, that doesn't mind chatting about the lifestyle and what they get up to. Because they don't see the press interest directly, they don't do anything about it - this link gives them that opportunity to do so
Quote by twos_company
need to get admin trained up to full fledged members of SH.......
then they could do it all themselves!!!!
:thumbup: :giggle: We have been trying since day 1 to corrupt... erm.... convert (
) the admin team... Just so they know what it's all about, research purposes 
Missy.... Spot on
We always complain that we are not put in the correct light when stories are published about swinging in the press, It's always some biased hacks view so prehaps now is a chance to put our views forward.
However I'm not naive enough to think what we say will be entirely in context or not published in a smutty way. But how can you say we aren't be represented when you can have a chance like this to give it to them straight from the horses mouth so to speak
However I'm not naive enough to think what we say will be entirely in context or not published in a smutty way. But how can you say we aren't be represented when you can have a chance like this to give it to them straight from the horses mouth so to speak
problem being, who's gonna give it to them?
given that the message is viewable to everyone who logs into this site - and lets just say that isnt just ussat here voicing our oppinions/ concerns on it - someone's gonna click that link, someone's going to 'give their side' and the cynical bitch in me says its going to be the 'look at me, 7 shags a night, oops did I name-drop a dogging location and goings-on at the last party I went to into that for good measure while giving people completely the wrong idea about what swinging is, thankyou for the quick buck opportunist, which imo, is exactly what they want to hear.
Professional & positive nature eh ?
wouldnt touch it with a bargepole.
given that the message is viewable to everyone who logs into this site - and lets just say that isnt just ussat here voicing our oppinions/ concerns on it - someone's gonna click that link, someone's going to 'give their side' and the cynical bitch in me says its going to be the 'look at me, 7 shags a night, oops did I name-drop a dogging location and goings-on at the last party I went to into that for good measure while giving people completely the wrong idea about what swinging is, thankyou for the quick buck opportunist, which imo, is exactly what they want to hear.
Professional & positive nature eh ?
wouldnt touch it with a bargepole.
Quote by Darkfire
' and the cynical bitch in me says its going to be the 'look at me, 7 shags a night, oops did I name-drop a dogging location and goings-on at the last party I went to into that for good measure while giving people completely the wrong idea about what swinging is,.
Point taken and to be honest at times even though we think the way we do things is the right way the forum constitutes about 100 regular users compared to the 100's of 1000's that use the ad's or simply browse for kicks and the lure of cash will always tempt people no matter how small it is
Quote by sheddy
We always complain that we are not put in the correct light when stories are published about swinging in the press, It's always some biased hacks view so prehaps now is a chance to put our views forward.
However I'm not naive enough to think what we say will be entirely in context or not published in a smutty way. But how can you say we aren't be represented when you can have a chance like this to give it to them straight from the horses mouth so to speak
Nice post Sheddy
Sex God
Quote by Darkfire
problem being, who's gonna give it to them?
As I read it, it's an appeal from admin for those who would be willing to put their stories in the papers to come forward. I assume that they will only put people forward to the jouralists if they believed that they would make a true represantation of the site and the swinging world.....
I have plenty of stories that I could easily sell, but have made a choice not to do so......but if people here feel that they want to share their expieriences for 500quid so be it......I don't read articles like that......or the papers that tend to publish them for that matter.....
Quote by poshkate
they will only put people forward to the jouralists if they believed that they would make a true represantation of the site and the swinging world.....
Kate we have debated many times in here over what is or isn't 'swinging' - I dont believe that anyone can give a true representation of this site and the swinging world because every individual is different, is here for their own reasons and as a wise man once said, 'swinging is, what swinging is for you'. The danger is that one persons representation is another persons very significant misrepresentation, in print, available to anyone reading that particular publication.
......I don't read articles like that......or the papers that tend to publish them for that matter.....
so it doesnt affect you then?
i have absolutely nothing positive to contribute to this thread so I'll leave it well alone. I think an open invitation to every site member to talk to the press is a liability, and for those who are happy to talk to journalists about their private lives while 'representing' the rest of the members of Swinging Heaven, on your own head be it.
Quote by Darkfire
- I dont believe that anyone can give a true representation of this site and the swinging world because every individual is different, is here for their own reasons and as a wise man once said, 'swinging is, what swinging is for you'. The danger is that one persons representation is another persons very significant misrepresentation
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Sex God
Quote by Darkfire
so it doesnt affect you then?
no it doesn't have a direct affect on me as I would not be aware of it's existance.........but that's not to say that things do not affect me just because I don't read them or am not aware of them......
I was simply stating my view on the thread.......I didn't realise that we are only allowed to post in threads that are personally important to us.........
Sex God
Quote by Darkfire
problem being, who's gonna give it to them?
given that the message is viewable to everyone who logs into this site - and lets just say that isnt just us sat here voicing our oppinions/ concerns on it - someone's gonna click that link, someone's going to 'give their side' and the cynical bitch in me says its going to be the 'look at me, 7 shags a night, oops did I name-drop a dogging location and goings-on at the last party I went to into that for good measure while giving people completely the wrong idea about what swinging is, thankyou for the quick buck opportunist, which imo, is exactly what they want to hear.
Professional & positive nature eh ?
wouldnt touch it with a bargepole.
Couldn't agree more and, with the greatest respect to the media, they've never let the facts get in the way of a good story have they.
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How things change.
If that Login article (message) had been wrote months ago by just a member of SH it would have been ridiculed, laughed at and screemed about then locked or deleted.
Ever since SH was put on the web by Mark we have fought to keep the press out. Now Admin are asking us to allow them in. WHY ??? . Its a business, thats why. Any publicity, good or bad will bring in new members and help fill the coffers.
Anyone who thinks that the "press" will make a nice glowing report about swingers and the swinging scene are living in cloud cuckoo land.
Barge pole and touch come to mind.
phredd
If that Login article (message) had been wrote months ago by just a member of SH it would have been ridiculed, laughed at and screemed about then locked or deleted.
Ever since SH was put on the web by Mark we have fought to keep the press out. Now Admin are asking us to allow them in. WHY ??? . Its a business, thats why. Any publicity, good or bad will bring in new members and help fill the coffers.
Anyone who thinks that the "press" will make a nice glowing report about swingers and the swinging scene are living in cloud cuckoo land.
Barge pole and touch come to mind.
phredd
Sex God
This brought up a very mixed reaction in some of the chat rooms i was in last night....
I seem to remember a piece in the Guardian/Indpendent I think that was posted on here and was balanced, level headed and well written......
but on the other hand i also remember dreading reading the sunday tabloids wondering which club they had managed to sneek cameras into next as part of the crusade against the filth, i know some clubs never recovered from that!!!
I think calista got it spot on...sex and scandal sell, we know how swinging is looked at, why would they kill the golden goose????
I wish that we could let people know that swinging isn't seedy or dirty, as it is precieved in the land of vanilla, but i can only see this backfiring.. as the first "i got 7 shags a night" post would send out the wrong message
I seem to remember a piece in the Guardian/Indpendent I think that was posted on here and was balanced, level headed and well written......
but on the other hand i also remember dreading reading the sunday tabloids wondering which club they had managed to sneek cameras into next as part of the crusade against the filth, i know some clubs never recovered from that!!!
I think calista got it spot on...sex and scandal sell, we know how swinging is looked at, why would they kill the golden goose????
I wish that we could let people know that swinging isn't seedy or dirty, as it is precieved in the land of vanilla, but i can only see this backfiring.. as the first "i got 7 shags a night" post would send out the wrong message
Quote by Medic_1
How things change.
If that Login article (message) had been wrote months ago by just a member of SH it would have been ridiculed, laughed at and screemed about then locked or deleted.
Ever since SH was put on the web by Mark we have fought to keep the press out. Now Admin are asking us to allow them in. WHY ??? . Its a business, thats why. Any publicity, good or bad will bring in new members and help fill the coffers.
Anyone who thinks that the "press" will make a nice glowing report about swingers and the swinging scene are living in cloud cuckoo land.
Barge pole and touch come to mind.
phredd
Phredd very quickly I'll tell you why I think the post is there and I might be way off
When SH put a questionnaire on the home page there were many comments about how crap it was. It didn't ask questions that we as swingers found important to us. It didn't give us the options to put the truths down about who we had played with, had sex with and the options were piss poor.
Read here
http://www.swingingheaven.co.uk/swingers-forum/viewtopic/87680.html?highlight=homepage
Now SH have given the its members an oportunity to put that right (yes I do know press twist things
) but no one is making you speak to anyone.Seems to me like admin have offered some of us the chance to put our thoughts forward in the best way possible
Again, I do know what the press are going to do to swinging but it doesn't mean, IMHO, that what admin are trying to do in allowing the truth about swinging to come out, is wrong :?
Now I'm late for the hairdressers
Quote by Calista
What is someone "outed" someone else? Its all very well saying that the press would respect the need for anonymity, since when has that ever been true? and whilst the interviewee may be anonymous, anyone talked about during the intervew might not be so ..
This, in particular, was what sprung to my mind when I first read the message
Quote by Darkfire
The danger is that one persons representation is another persons very significant misrepresentation, in print, available to anyone reading that particular publication......
....I think an open invitation to every site member to talk to the press is a liability, and for those who are happy to talk to journalists about their private lives while 'representing' the rest of the members of Swinging Heaven, on your own head be it.
...quickly followed by this in bold. Its true that anyone could at any time go to the press and give them a story but I feel that by giving out an invite to do so as you log in, just makes it a little easier to do and that it would be viewed as coming straight from SH's mouth
The whole thing makes me feel uneasy to be honest.
Fee
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Press and media contacts please raise a support ticket and state that you are PRESS here.
This is in the Contact Us section on the left of your screen.
The Press have their own corridor. Its a facility available to MEMBERS. Therefore they exist as members of SH. Which they are entitled to be. But...........................
Also just wondered if being offered a fee for a story compromises the AUP 'Attempts to sell a service or product of any kind.' :? Which as members (re above) they are offering. :?
I understand business is business etc. But there seem to be some illogicalities and inconsistencies, which would be better reconciled as part of any debate.
This is in the Contact Us section on the left of your screen.
The Press have their own corridor. Its a facility available to MEMBERS. Therefore they exist as members of SH. Which they are entitled to be. But...........................
Also just wondered if being offered a fee for a story compromises the AUP 'Attempts to sell a service or product of any kind.' :? Which as members (re above) they are offering. :?
I understand business is business etc. But there seem to be some illogicalities and inconsistencies, which would be better reconciled as part of any debate.
