Before I get into my thread I'd like to say hello to everyone on the Forum, my SH pals (Bloke especially if he is still around), and explain that even though I am very infrequently on the site these days, I miss it terribly and still love getting the chance to read posts on the Forum.
I work away now and do 3 months in the Middle East and 1 month off (where i mainly catch up with friends, holiday or try and indulge in as much pleasure as i can before setting back off to a muslim country where internet access is restricted and limited and time is even more so).
Anyway into the thread at hand and to colate some ideas from the good people of SH Towers and the fantastic Forumers.
As I said above, I now work away in a muslim country and live in a small part of a household compound of the family I work for who are strict Muslims. Internet access is nigh on impossible and also restricted but the place is beautiful and I cant grumble as the money is great.
The only problem in my life is this, I get very little time to socialise and living where I am with a small contingent of British Ex Pats I have virtually no sex life for 3 months at a time. I come home and during the month I have off I try to indulge in as much sexual activity as is humanly possible. "Dirty man" i hear you cry!! "Human only" is my reply!! I've become somewhat as a binge-sexer.
I have used this site very unsuccesfully during my time on British soil of late, as it seems SO hard to get meet up's in the single male bracket and now understand where the "moaning single male" syndrome came from. Not that I'm moaning, if it happens, it happens if not, then that's just life.
I started to use the services of "escort girls" as finding a lady to indulge in carnal pleasures with in just a short 4 weeks was nigh on impossible or very hit and miss to say the least, even as a "pretty damn fine peice of male ass", as i have previously been described. The accuracy of which I'd egotistically agree with :-)
I started to use another sex related site and soon had an add replied to by a very attractive girl in her early 20's who's add said she was with someone, but being on a sex related site and being in my prediciment I thought "why not?".
To cut a long story short, we met up and had sex and started to see each other as regularly as possible in a NSA manner. I am into role play and fantasies and we had some awesome sexual experiences doing some really great role play type stuff as she was very excited by the ideas i came up with. Everything seemed to be just the way I wanted it but as life usually turns out, nothing is ever as simple, hence my post. It became evident she was married to a well off guy in his 40's who worked in London during the week, and he did "his thing" and she did "her thing" and no questions were asked about what each got up to.
I got back last week and as usual got intouch with said filthy NSA sexual friend and said young lady agreed we should meet up and a filthy and exciting scenario was developed in anticipation. On meeting up we did the lascivious and explicit fantasy and went for a drink in the nearby pub afterwards.
A guy at the bar was looking at us and being in the proffesion I am, knew it was more than just a passing glance in our direction but I didn't think much of it as I had a glamourous young lady in my company and put it downn. to that. I mentioned it to my NSA female friend and she said we should act up and I should touch her etc which i was slightly uncomfortable with as public sexual stuff is not really my bag.
I noticed she was looking at this guy in a non-stranger manner ( people donot usually maintain eye contact with people they don't know especially of the opposite sex) and I asked her what was going on.
The man came over and astonishingly introduced himself as this girl I had been having sex with's husband and it then dawned on me that this had to be pre arranged. He had known about me for as long as it had been going on and read emails, texts and even seen footage of us having sex as we often filmed our sexual fantasies.
They apparently have an "understanding" and he gets off on knowing about and even organising and planning some of her meetings and there is not just me. He took great pride in telling me she has 5 lovers and I was just sat in total amazement at the plot unfolding in front of me.
I know this sounds like double standards in some ways as i knew this girl was married, but I am bemused by this. I was under the assumption that they knew each had sexual liasons with others but not that I was part of some elaborate sexual game they play together. The fact that they have watched videos of me and this girl having sex and used them for their own sexual excitment is a little surreal or am I being niave or prudish?
The fact that some of my correspondences, that I believed were between myself and said girl were read and even replied to by them both to fuel some of their own fantasies has shocked me and I feel a bit, dare i say it? Cheated.
Not in a "she has cheated on me way" that would just be ridiculous, but that I was sold a complete and utter fabrication. I am a little uncomfortable with it in that this girl lead me quite a merry dance. She told me she was only seeing me, not that i'd have made any stipulations as to that being a pre requisit to us having a sexual relationship. That would be hypocritical, but a little honesty might have given rise to me thinking seriously about getting involved in a very strange manage et toi (misspelt probs). I asked her if her husband knew she had sexual partners and she said yes but they don't discuss it, and now find out they went shopping for outfits for her to wear, watched footage we filmed of our sexual roleplay, and shared correspondence that i was sending her and her to me.
I would like to know if you guys have any slant or opinions on this, and maybe whether or not you think I'm making too much of it. After all I knew she was married so maybe I'm getting my just desserts? I'm not easily offended and take any comments or opinions well so over to you guys.
I've spoken to a pal of mine from another site and he asked "are you in love with her or something?", and the answer is definately no. It was purely a sexual thing and fulfilled a great sexual need, it's just that it is such a strange situation I can not really comprehend it and wonder whether anyone else has had similar happen, or if others maybe have actually done the same thing and their thoughts on it.
Comments eagerly awaited.......
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Good point guys.
And her number.................nah think I'll just keep that one to myself
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Probably the shock of being duped has what had gotten me thinking. I'd have been happy with the husband knowing about it and consenting, but the level of involvement he had is what I find a bit creepy as I knew nothing about it. That's more the point my long winded post was trying to make I suppose.
I have been involved with couples before which is not a problem to me, it's the deciet thing I most disagree with in most cases. Having met her on a sex orientated site i suppose before I knew about her having an "arangement" with her husband I probably would have been the one she cheated with had it of not turned out to be such a weird scenario. So maybe I've been a pawn in their game, wow chess is so complicated and startegic :lol:
And her number.................nah think I'll just keep that one to myself
.Probably the shock of being duped has what had gotten me thinking. I'd have been happy with the husband knowing about it and consenting, but the level of involvement he had is what I find a bit creepy as I knew nothing about it. That's more the point my long winded post was trying to make I suppose.
I have been involved with couples before which is not a problem to me, it's the deciet thing I most disagree with in most cases. Having met her on a sex orientated site i suppose before I knew about her having an "arangement" with her husband I probably would have been the one she cheated with had it of not turned out to be such a weird scenario. So maybe I've been a pawn in their game, wow chess is so complicated and startegic :lol:
Ah you see, that's just it.
I said in my post she had an arrangement with her husband, they did their own thing. So no cheating was actually involved in effect.
But to then find out what she had told me was utter fabrictaion and that from the start it was all lies from their end has weirded me out.
I was told I hasd never been discussed, and that the husband never asked. But in fact videos and texts emails etc were looked at by both.
A very strange affair do you not agree? I have a right to be a little irked by the fact that video footage of me is being shown to a third party even if it is her husband, with whom she has an open relationship with?
God knows thats why i came on here with this post. A prediciment this is turning out to be.
I said in my post she had an arrangement with her husband, they did their own thing. So no cheating was actually involved in effect.
But to then find out what she had told me was utter fabrictaion and that from the start it was all lies from their end has weirded me out.
I was told I hasd never been discussed, and that the husband never asked. But in fact videos and texts emails etc were looked at by both.
A very strange affair do you not agree? I have a right to be a little irked by the fact that video footage of me is being shown to a third party even if it is her husband, with whom she has an open relationship with?
God knows thats why i came on here with this post. A prediciment this is turning out to be.
So if no one's actually said that the end is nigh, are you going to continue?
You don't need to go on feeling like this for too long. If you don't see a lifetime of a menage a trois then its destined to end at some point. although some affairs do go on for life.
if you can't get over it, the sex may come to an end, but it sounds like it might be worth seeing if there's more mileage in it yet.
perhaps hubby fancies you.
its worth finding out what they want next, you don't have to do it. but it sounds like they have been through this before and its only the start of something else.
couples can go through some quite unexpected things and maybe this is where you will see what they are really all about.
juicy stuff mate!
You don't need to go on feeling like this for too long. If you don't see a lifetime of a menage a trois then its destined to end at some point. although some affairs do go on for life.
if you can't get over it, the sex may come to an end, but it sounds like it might be worth seeing if there's more mileage in it yet.
perhaps hubby fancies you.
its worth finding out what they want next, you don't have to do it. but it sounds like they have been through this before and its only the start of something else.
couples can go through some quite unexpected things and maybe this is where you will see what they are really all about.
juicy stuff mate!
Sexlightened
Quote by brucie
can someone summarise in less than 50 words please.
Bwaa Bwaa, cake and eat it,Bwaa Bwaa, I'm not as important as I thought I was.
Maybe they are high capacity operators and you have been seduced or recruited into their world of supercharged sex. your feelings and requirements have so far been met, in that you were happy with a discreet affair. but it may be nothing in comparison to what they are now looking for.
3 some's, gang bangs, bi stuff might be around the corner for you. this could be your big lucky break.
hang in there and see what happens. just be ready to make a run for it if you think things are going to turn out really bad. then those strings will snap quite easily.
3 some's, gang bangs, bi stuff might be around the corner for you. this could be your big lucky break.
hang in there and see what happens. just be ready to make a run for it if you think things are going to turn out really bad. then those strings will snap quite easily.
Orgasminator
We have lots in common, I have quite a bit of experience in both cuckolding and writing walls of text on forums! 
Im sure it has come as quite a shock to you but in my opinion:
No Harm, no foul.
Her motivation for hiding the hubby could have been so they could have the extra thrill of him voyeuring her 'affair'
If you have had fun doing the deed, and your post implies you did, your only issue is how to move forward from here and thats a purely personal decision.
If you have lost all trust then I would probably write it off, if not and you still feel the urge then fill yer boots lad :grin:
and as GnV said can we see the vids?!?!
Im sure it has come as quite a shock to you but in my opinion:
No Harm, no foul.
Her motivation for hiding the hubby could have been so they could have the extra thrill of him voyeuring her 'affair'
If you have had fun doing the deed, and your post implies you did, your only issue is how to move forward from here and thats a purely personal decision.
If you have lost all trust then I would probably write it off, if not and you still feel the urge then fill yer boots lad :grin:
and as GnV said can we see the vids?!?!
Sex God
Maybe he's been in the wardrobe peeking out of the keyhole....... with his friends?
Sex God
I reckon it's the lack of transparency - even if it's a NSA thing (and believe me, I like nothing better!) when you start an 'arrangement' type of situation rather than a one-off, you expect a certain level of transparency and trust. Well, I do, anyway.
So I think I can understand your disquiet.
Oh and welcome back! I shall look forward to your posting more when you get the chance. :thumbup:
So I think I can understand your disquiet.
Oh and welcome back! I shall look forward to your posting more when you get the chance. :thumbup:
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Before I get into my thread I'd like to say hello to everyone on the Forum, my SH pals (Bloke especially if he is still around), and explain that even though I am very infrequently on the site these days, I miss it terribly and still love getting the chance to read posts on the Forum........
Hello you handsome, fit b***ard - glad you're still alive and kicking you big metrosexual piece of fine, straight male ass :thumbup: x
Sex God
Could have been worse - they could have been serial killers lining you up for a very nasty ending on film.
There is an element of trust, even in NSA sex. At least you did not find something hanging or standing up when she took her knickers off.
Swinging is a rainbow world, and I have been surprised by both myself and others, especially this last year. I know some things I have been told are not true.
The only thing is, how much fun are you having, and is it worth the lack of trust you now have.
Have fun and don’t be afraid to stretch your comfort zone.
Travis
Swinging is a rainbow world, and I have been surprised by both myself and others, especially this last year. I know some things I have been told are not true.
The only thing is, how much fun are you having, and is it worth the lack of trust you now have.
Have fun and don’t be afraid to stretch your comfort zone.
Travis
Quote by Mr_Lilly
can someone summarise in less than 50 words please.
Bwaa Bwaa, cake and eat it,Bwaa Bwaa, I'm not as important as I thought I was.
Obviously got completely the wrong end of the stick....do people not actually read or just make assumptions based on what they think is being said?
Quote by bIoke
Before I get into my thread I'd like to say hello to everyone on the Forum, my SH pals (Bloke especially if he is still around), and explain that even though I am very infrequently on the site these days, I miss it terribly and still love getting the chance to read posts on the Forum........
Hello you handsome, fit b***ard - glad you're still alive and kicking you big metrosexual piece of fine, straight male ass :thumbup: x
Thanks my friend, hopw your well! x
Ok, yesterday I was very tired and wrote this thread whilst sleepy and may not have got my point across clearly, SOOOO maybe this has accounted for some of the "snipey" rather than constructive comments, as obviously there couldn't just be snipey and critical people on SH?
Right the points of my post are this: Just to put it in lay mans terms for those that, jump to conclusions, form their own critical opinions due to their own critical outlook of everything or generally jump on every post that isn't from one of their clique pals........
I entered into a NSA sexual relationship with a woman who told me on the first occasion she had a husband who knew she had sex with others, and whom also had sexual relationships with other people himself.
(I was not cheating with her as she told me they BOTH did this with others)
I was told they never talk about it, and that i would never be discussed.
(They frequently talked about things I did with the female, compliled emails together and texts)
I was told her discretion was important to her and she asked that I don't talk about her to my friends etc.
(Discretion IS important to me and to find out I had been discussed with her husband and they had lengthy discussions and made plans about what myself and the female got upto is to ME a little weird given the discretion/never talk about things story)
We had sexual contact etc sometimes on camera which I was told was for her only and she asked that my copy was not shown to anyone else.
(An element of trust was required as i have a high profile employer and she knew this, we discussed this and she told me it was for her personal use NOT for her and her husband to get off on. I showed nobody)
We discussed that meeting or having any contact with her husband would be a bad idea and I told her I would be uncomfortable even though he knew she "did her own thing with other people". I thought it would personalise it if he had a face and an actual person to think about as it might cause HER problems and possibly me.
(They arranged to have him meet me completely unprepared or unnaware at a pub after I had just had sex with his wife, which to me is just wrong to do to anybody)
I asked for your comments and I appreciate them, I also aren't crying into my cornflakes that some of you have been critical, or even dare I say it, bitchy.
I as well as most clued up people on the forums know that there are people on the site that delight in stamping on posts, being generally passive aggressive, and even bitchy. We generally just let it go over our heads, but the lack of comprehension as to my point riled me a little if I'm honest.
It wasn't a case of getting the wrong end of the stick, some just brought their own stick into the mire. I have seen this a lot, mostly with new posters or those that are not in cliques, and I wish it didn't go on but it does. But that's a whole different thread!
I don't need to "grow up" and am not whining that I'm "not as important as I thought" I know my own self worth thank you very much. I have been swinging for 6 years now, I've had my cake and eaten it. I have been in 3 some situations, cuckold situations before with couples. NEVER have I been lead a merry dance by a couple in this way, where by almost every fact I thought about the situation was completely untrue. As others have noted, even in NSA sex there HAS to be an element of trust and lines were clearly crossed.
IN EDIT:
I recieved an email an hour ago asking for a meet up with both parties and politely declined stating I was happy to have sexual contact with the female in the way we had been previous but that due to the nature of how things had turned out I didn't think that going down the road of 3 somes with them would be what I wanted.
I have recieved an email from the husband being generally very aggressive, saying he wanted to know exactly how many times I had seen his wife, exactly what we had done and where. She has since rang me saying the guy is going mad saying she is "hiding things" and this only goes to show that my first initial thought that this was a strange situation was bang on.
Otherwise why all the lies, why not just advertise for a cuckold situation etc? We live and learn I suppose, but to those that mocked and said I was whineing.......Hmmmm maybe I know a little more about situations that I'M involved in :wink:
Right the points of my post are this: Just to put it in lay mans terms for those that, jump to conclusions, form their own critical opinions due to their own critical outlook of everything or generally jump on every post that isn't from one of their clique pals........
I entered into a NSA sexual relationship with a woman who told me on the first occasion she had a husband who knew she had sex with others, and whom also had sexual relationships with other people himself.
(I was not cheating with her as she told me they BOTH did this with others)
I was told they never talk about it, and that i would never be discussed.
(They frequently talked about things I did with the female, compliled emails together and texts)
I was told her discretion was important to her and she asked that I don't talk about her to my friends etc.
(Discretion IS important to me and to find out I had been discussed with her husband and they had lengthy discussions and made plans about what myself and the female got upto is to ME a little weird given the discretion/never talk about things story)
We had sexual contact etc sometimes on camera which I was told was for her only and she asked that my copy was not shown to anyone else.
(An element of trust was required as i have a high profile employer and she knew this, we discussed this and she told me it was for her personal use NOT for her and her husband to get off on. I showed nobody)
We discussed that meeting or having any contact with her husband would be a bad idea and I told her I would be uncomfortable even though he knew she "did her own thing with other people". I thought it would personalise it if he had a face and an actual person to think about as it might cause HER problems and possibly me.
(They arranged to have him meet me completely unprepared or unnaware at a pub after I had just had sex with his wife, which to me is just wrong to do to anybody)
I asked for your comments and I appreciate them, I also aren't crying into my cornflakes that some of you have been critical, or even dare I say it, bitchy.
I as well as most clued up people on the forums know that there are people on the site that delight in stamping on posts, being generally passive aggressive, and even bitchy. We generally just let it go over our heads, but the lack of comprehension as to my point riled me a little if I'm honest.
It wasn't a case of getting the wrong end of the stick, some just brought their own stick into the mire. I have seen this a lot, mostly with new posters or those that are not in cliques, and I wish it didn't go on but it does. But that's a whole different thread!
I don't need to "grow up" and am not whining that I'm "not as important as I thought" I know my own self worth thank you very much. I have been swinging for 6 years now, I've had my cake and eaten it. I have been in 3 some situations, cuckold situations before with couples. NEVER have I been lead a merry dance by a couple in this way, where by almost every fact I thought about the situation was completely untrue. As others have noted, even in NSA sex there HAS to be an element of trust and lines were clearly crossed.
IN EDIT:
I recieved an email an hour ago asking for a meet up with both parties and politely declined stating I was happy to have sexual contact with the female in the way we had been previous but that due to the nature of how things had turned out I didn't think that going down the road of 3 somes with them would be what I wanted.
I have recieved an email from the husband being generally very aggressive, saying he wanted to know exactly how many times I had seen his wife, exactly what we had done and where. She has since rang me saying the guy is going mad saying she is "hiding things" and this only goes to show that my first initial thought that this was a strange situation was bang on.
Otherwise why all the lies, why not just advertise for a cuckold situation etc? We live and learn I suppose, but to those that mocked and said I was whineing.......Hmmmm maybe I know a little more about situations that I'M involved in :wink:
Sexlightened
Quote by Srne
can someone summarise in less than 50 words please.
Bwaa Bwaa, cake and eat it,Bwaa Bwaa, I'm not as important as I thought I was.
Obviously got completely the wrong end of the stick....do people not actually read or just make assumptions based on what they think is being said?
Yes
Its beginning to sound like: wifey goes and out and fixes up some new bum for hubby? Its not unusual in the swinging world, depending on how its done.
It looked like it was on the edge of getting into some darker areas. Possibly the guy getting into some madness and you being the victim?
Obviously now you don't feel right about it, so it will all come to an end.
It looked like it was on the edge of getting into some darker areas. Possibly the guy getting into some madness and you being the victim?
Obviously now you don't feel right about it, so it will all come to an end.
Sex God
I think that if you are meeting someone for a 1 off meet then you don't need to know the ins and outs of their relationships. However, I am an honest person and like others to afford me the same. For example, I would rather make up my own mind whether or not I want to meet a guy who is being unfaithful to his wife. I like to be able to make informed decisions.
When it comes to a sexual relationship, which is what you had formed with this woman, I agree with you that it is totally out of order. From what you have told us, it seems that they have their rules which you must abide by, but yours don't matter to them.
If it was me in this situation, I would be mighty pissed off and I think you have made the right decision not to meet them. If I was you, I wouldn't meet her alone again either. Any trust you had has gone.
When it comes to a sexual relationship, which is what you had formed with this woman, I agree with you that it is totally out of order. From what you have told us, it seems that they have their rules which you must abide by, but yours don't matter to them.
If it was me in this situation, I would be mighty pissed off and I think you have made the right decision not to meet them. If I was you, I wouldn't meet her alone again either. Any trust you had has gone.
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I think that if you are meeting someone for a 1 off meet then you don't need to know the ins and outs of their relationships. However, I am an honest person and like others to afford me the same. For example, I would rather make up my own mind whether or not I want to meet a guy who is being unfaithful to his wife. I like to be able to make informed decisions.
When it comes to a sexual relationship, which is what you had formed with this woman, I agree with you that it is totally out of order. From what you have told us, it seems that they have their rules which you must abide by, but yours don't matter to them.
If it was me in this situation, I would be mighty pissed off and I think you have made the right decision not to meet them. If I was you, I wouldn't meet her alone again either. Any trust you had has gone.
Exactly :thumbup:
Sexpert
Well it's a NSA relationship so people are free to do as they wish.
The main incongruence as far as I can see is not discussing it between them; which they clearly did.
It's a shock when you have a pre-conceived idea about something and it turns out to actually be different.
It would be good if people were more open as well as honest.
One question to ask yourself is "Do I want to live life for the moment?" This might clarify things for you.
The main incongruence as far as I can see is not discussing it between them; which they clearly did.
It's a shock when you have a pre-conceived idea about something and it turns out to actually be different.
It would be good if people were more open as well as honest.
One question to ask yourself is "Do I want to live life for the moment?" This might clarify things for you.
Orgasminator
The first post didnt quite cover all the story. This now sounds like a situation you dont want to be involved in, wasn't expecting and want nothing else to do with.
good call
good call
Sex God
If the shoe was on the other foot... damn sure she wouldn't be impressed. 
Sex God
From your lastest update the only advice I can give is for you to walk away from the situation......quickly. I hope also that she doesn't know where you live.
