Showing my age (and taste for a bit of luxury) here, but I do have a soft spot for the Granada 24v, a mighty sleeper tuned by Cosworth, without the boy racer image.
Truth is theres good and bad in everyone , even petrol heads . Im more of an armchair air con motorist myself , but I still love my motor.
The percieved problems in dogging recently have been as a direct result of promotion of the idea of it , and of course having attracted alot more people to the sport which is on the plus side - its also attracted the equal percentage of new assholes ( both boy racer and other sorts) .
Fact is the carparks being used were often used by shall we call them " young car enthusiasts" well before the dogging craze became so widespread , so they feel their turf being invaded . Many doggers probably operated without the racers even noticing what they were up to years ago , but now they have read about it , and dont understand it , they will often look to ridicule it . Doggers as a breed by nature spend an awful lot of time standing and gossiping , and have very very many unsuccessful nights . That means that they like to blame someone for their lack of success - often from what we have heard here and there it has been the gay community who has been blamed for spoiling things ( another group who share the same venues as dogging folk ) it just so happens the " boy racers" are this years bogeyman . The real problems are often magnified out of all proportion by the chinese whisper system in the doggers community . In reality nothing has changed except the amount of people involved in dogging overall and their expectations . Much of the terrible experiences related thrid hand in this forum and other places are quite rare , and stem from people who simply dont understand the nature of dogging and are expecting a swingers party in the open air - and that aint what it is .
Chill out and if you leave Ricky Racer alone he probably wont be arsed to get involved with you . There are plenty of open spaces and they arent parked in all of them , and none of us own any of them .
Peace G
so youve got varyable bar as well or fixed ?
dump valve goes with out saying if your running decent boost
why not go N0S
Well I am all for those that do there cares up and show them at proper organised cruises and shows and race them on the track. What iwas trying to say was that those genuine swingers are now going to to get pestered away from there fun but those that want to get there kicks for free and upset the others because they dont know the ettiquet for swinging.
NIgel
Dont agree with street racing (mr Tiggs) but we have all done it at some point in time. The Southend Cruise is worth looking at, it is now an organised event, once a month and even the police turn up in Lotus, Evo 's and other high spec cars. so when they do try racing on the A127 on the way home, the police can keep up.
A lot of cars from out of town now come down for it and some of the cars are really nice, spec up kits and engines to match and some even have the sounds to match.
Personally, just give me the sounds.