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mixing anti depressants with alcohol
How about telling him to get down to the doctors and their opinion on it,they'd be the ones who can fully answer that question.
Otherwise definatly see the doc as Claire suggests.Quote by the funk
ok i know sum1 who taked the deppreant citromil i think its called anyways he takes them during the week then drinks at the weekend he said he needs to stop drinking cause his mind is going crazy !!!! so what causes all this
I was on Cipramil a few years ago for about a week!! Id say its the Cipramil thats causing it although its not a good idea to be mixing them with alcohol anyway!!
Gave me a feeling of being on amphetamines (head racing as you described) and was sweating profusely also the same as being on amphetamines, I came off them after a week as the effects I got from it were instant and not very nice. Much worse symptoms from the anti depressants than the depression itself there.
Maybe you should advse your friend to see his doctor about it!
And it wont help if he stops and starts them!!
Sex God
hiya the funk!
i think your mates on cipramil ((( aka celexa / citalopram ))) which i have a little experience of.
first off it's an SSRI, like prozac / seroxat, but with an anti-anxiety/calming effect too. i know that prozac and stella for instance, are a ***very bad combo*** , that can have you absolutely raging and going mental. so the same applies here. cipramil is similiar, and drinking on it is ***not good***. having said that i do drink on it, but sparingly. alcohol is a depressant in itself, and can cause rages. cipramil is designed to combat the depression and the rages, so everythings battling each other.
if your mate is taking it 5 days a week, then having a couple of days off so he can drink, he'll be getting a kind of rebound effect, that makes the whole thing worse. the cipramil is usually calming, but your body gets used to it over time, and learns to function. when you dont take it, if you are still depressed, you'll become a bit agitated, and the alcohol makes it worse.
all i can tell you is that the meds work given time, but they can be rough at the start, and your mate does need to follow the docs advice on them. they can be quite harsh, and the booze makes all the side effects much worse.
neil
i think your mates on cipramil ((( aka celexa / citalopram ))) which i have a little experience of.
first off it's an SSRI, like prozac / seroxat, but with an anti-anxiety/calming effect too. i know that prozac and stella for instance, are a ***very bad combo*** , that can have you absolutely raging and going mental. so the same applies here. cipramil is similiar, and drinking on it is ***not good***. having said that i do drink on it, but sparingly. alcohol is a depressant in itself, and can cause rages. cipramil is designed to combat the depression and the rages, so everythings battling each other.
if your mate is taking it 5 days a week, then having a couple of days off so he can drink, he'll be getting a kind of rebound effect, that makes the whole thing worse. the cipramil is usually calming, but your body gets used to it over time, and learns to function. when you dont take it, if you are still depressed, you'll become a bit agitated, and the alcohol makes it worse.
all i can tell you is that the meds work given time, but they can be rough at the start, and your mate does need to follow the docs advice on them. they can be quite harsh, and the booze makes all the side effects much worse.
neil
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Quote by fruity1976
ok i know sum1 who taked the deppreant citromil i think its called anyways he takes them during the week then drinks at the weekend he said he needs to stop drinking cause his mind is going crazy !!!! so what causes all this
I was on Cipramil a few years ago for about a week!! Id say its the Cipramil thats causing it although its not a good idea to be mixing them with alcohol anyway!!
Gave me a feeling of being on amphetamines (head racing as you described) and was sweating profusely also the same as being on amphetamines, I came off them after a week as the effects I got from it were instant and not very nice. Much worse symptoms from the anti depressants than the depression itself there.
Maybe you should advse your friend to see his doctor about it!
fruity.
yep i had all of that the first week or so. the side effects were intense and very unpleasant, but after a week or so, they settle down. the first week id be knocked out soon after taking them, then have all the s/e's you mention later, but now i have none whatsoever. they disappeared for me pretty much after the first 2 or 3 weeks, and i'm much better for it. if it works for you it's so much better than prozac / seroxat etc.
neil x x x ;)
Yeah maybe I was told that by the doc too 
So stubborn!
Had the prozac the cipramil and countless others now I cant really remember!!
Im really not a big fan of anit depressants at all tbh Although I know they haev probably helped others I felt they just didnt do anything for me, I dunnno if my brain just sort of started to regulate a bit after a while, maybe it wasnt a chemical imbalance??
Suppose everyone reacts differently too!
So stubborn!Had the prozac the cipramil and countless others now I cant really remember!!
Im really not a big fan of anit depressants at all tbh Although I know they haev probably helped others I felt they just didnt do anything for me, I dunnno if my brain just sort of started to regulate a bit after a while, maybe it wasnt a chemical imbalance??
Suppose everyone reacts differently too!
cheers all espec neil great advice im gonna tell him we aint going out 4 a bit hes been on them for 2 years on and off he was of them but then went back on them 6 months later cause he felt proper down maybe he might need to take theese all his life i dont care as long as he feels better !! so cant u drink anything with them ?
Reading the directions in a packet of Cipramil, there is nothing specific about not taking alcohol with them, as there is with several other antidepressants, so it probably does not have any adverse effects in combination...
However, alcohol is a depressant drug, and anyone with clinical depression shouldn't be drinking heavily.
As others have said, you need to talk to a doctor about this, not a bunch of random swingers. Try the NHS direct helpline on 0845 46 47
However, alcohol is a depressant drug, and anyone with clinical depression shouldn't be drinking heavily.
As others have said, you need to talk to a doctor about this, not a bunch of random swingers. Try the NHS direct helpline on 0845 46 47
I am an alcoholic and am on anti-deps (have been for 10 yrs, will prrolly always be). I am not a recovering alcoholic, I am a drunkard. Like everyone else says, alcohol is a depressant in itsself. Course he can drink, if he does not want to get better. Some of us are twats like that. But if he wants to get better, he should keep off it. We all know that one drink leads to another, as after one, he'll feel blazé about it and before you know it you'll be pissed. Believe me, I know.
Sex God
Unless there is a medical doctor on the forum who could PM you and give you the answer, I don't think you can rely on any of us tellling you absolutely that your friend is safe having one pint. If he has been told not to drink alcohol, then he shouldn't drink.... but you really do need to speak to an expert.
a follow on from what neilinleeds as said...
citalopram is a member of the selective serotonin re uptake inhibitor (SSRI) group of anti depressent drugs. it gradually improves the patients mood , increases physical activity, and restores interest in everyday activites.
citalopram is generally well tolerated and any gastrointestinal adverse effects, such as nausea, vomiting, or several trips to the toilet every 5 minutes, are dose related and usually diminsh with continued use of the drug.
like other SSRIs citalopram causes fewer antcholinergic side effects and is less sedating than the tricyclic anti depressents. it is also likely to be be harmful if taken in an overdose, it can however cause drowsiness and impair performance if used with alcohol, as this may increase the sedative effects in citalopram.
mixing alcohol can be very dangerous when taken in combination with other drugs,especially Barbiturates, Her**n, Metha****, and tranquillisers such as anti depressants, anti histamines and painkillers. mixing these drugs as led to many fatal overdoses.
the advised safe limits for adults to drink over per week "not all at once" are a maximum of 14 units for woman and 21 units for men (1 unit + half pint of standard strength beer or a small glass of wine or a pub measure of spirits)
nige (mr sophiebifem)
citalopram is a member of the selective serotonin re uptake inhibitor (SSRI) group of anti depressent drugs. it gradually improves the patients mood , increases physical activity, and restores interest in everyday activites.
citalopram is generally well tolerated and any gastrointestinal adverse effects, such as nausea, vomiting, or several trips to the toilet every 5 minutes, are dose related and usually diminsh with continued use of the drug.
like other SSRIs citalopram causes fewer antcholinergic side effects and is less sedating than the tricyclic anti depressents. it is also likely to be be harmful if taken in an overdose, it can however cause drowsiness and impair performance if used with alcohol, as this may increase the sedative effects in citalopram.
mixing alcohol can be very dangerous when taken in combination with other drugs,especially Barbiturates, Her**n, Metha****, and tranquillisers such as anti depressants, anti histamines and painkillers. mixing these drugs as led to many fatal overdoses.
the advised safe limits for adults to drink over per week "not all at once" are a maximum of 14 units for woman and 21 units for men (1 unit + half pint of standard strength beer or a small glass of wine or a pub measure of spirits)
nige (mr sophiebifem)
To push home the point, I nearly made my final mistake a couple of weekends ago.
I have been on some serious pain killers for a while, and my GP changed them for me, as they were no longer effective. I have 4 different sorts of pain killers to take (safely) with eachother. At least one being an opiate. And my anti-deps. And my injectable MS drugs.
Now the new drugs my gp gives me are to take instead of one of my ibuprofen, which I took up to 4 times a day. GP says take this instead of the ibuprofen.
So, merrily switch to this 'new' drug.
Next day, I am scarlet, roasting, shaky, rashy.... look and feel like I have intense sunburn. I call the gp. She tells me is prolly a reaction to the drug. She says she'll change it for another one... but one that I take the same as the one that made me poorly... in other words... TAKE ONE A DAY.
I had taken 6 in about 12 hours.
Now, being a complete twat, I did not tell the GP this. No, I don't know why either. We looked at the leaflet that came with the tabs "If you take too many tablets, go to the nearest Accident & Emergency Unit and take this leaflet with you"
Bollox.
Stupid cow, I still did not do that.. I just drank shed loads of water (even had juice & soda at the pub that night) and stayed 'dry' for a good 24 hours. A major achievement for me.
All I can think is... suppose I had gone and gotten pissed on the night before I felt ill? The night after I started this new drug?
I think I may have been a gonner. Twat.
I have been on some serious pain killers for a while, and my GP changed them for me, as they were no longer effective. I have 4 different sorts of pain killers to take (safely) with eachother. At least one being an opiate. And my anti-deps. And my injectable MS drugs.
Now the new drugs my gp gives me are to take instead of one of my ibuprofen, which I took up to 4 times a day. GP says take this instead of the ibuprofen.
So, merrily switch to this 'new' drug.
Next day, I am scarlet, roasting, shaky, rashy.... look and feel like I have intense sunburn. I call the gp. She tells me is prolly a reaction to the drug. She says she'll change it for another one... but one that I take the same as the one that made me poorly... in other words... TAKE ONE A DAY.
I had taken 6 in about 12 hours.
Now, being a complete twat, I did not tell the GP this. No, I don't know why either. We looked at the leaflet that came with the tabs "If you take too many tablets, go to the nearest Accident & Emergency Unit and take this leaflet with you"
Bollox.
Stupid cow, I still did not do that.. I just drank shed loads of water (even had juice & soda at the pub that night) and stayed 'dry' for a good 24 hours. A major achievement for me.
All I can think is... suppose I had gone and gotten pissed on the night before I felt ill? The night after I started this new drug?
I think I may have been a gonner. Twat.
Drinking alcohol and taking perscription drugs is obviously bad, taking two days off for drinking so you dont mix them is obviously bl**dy silly, but just a thought...
Your mate is at least getting out, and one of the problems I had was NOT wanting to go out. I didn't feel like socialising, I didn't feel like doing anything at all. By going out at weekends at least hes part way to becoming 'normal' so he needs to be encouraged to keep going out, but without drinking alcohol.
As not drinking might make him seem a bit of an outsider, and you DONT want that to happen, why not forgo the alcohol yourself? Sure he'll cope with not drinking if somebody else is missing out too.
When all's said and done, he has one thing in his favour, someone who is taking an interest in him and isn't afraid of getting involved.
NEVER butt out of his life
NEVER say "snap out of it"
NEVER believe him when hes says he's over it
Your mate is at least getting out, and one of the problems I had was NOT wanting to go out. I didn't feel like socialising, I didn't feel like doing anything at all. By going out at weekends at least hes part way to becoming 'normal' so he needs to be encouraged to keep going out, but without drinking alcohol.
As not drinking might make him seem a bit of an outsider, and you DONT want that to happen, why not forgo the alcohol yourself? Sure he'll cope with not drinking if somebody else is missing out too.
When all's said and done, he has one thing in his favour, someone who is taking an interest in him and isn't afraid of getting involved.
NEVER butt out of his life
NEVER say "snap out of it"
NEVER believe him when hes says he's over it
Sex God
Quote by neilinleeds
if it works for you it's so much better than prozac / seroxat etc.
neil x x x ;)
Neil, you sound very well informed on these drugs, what can you tell me about Seroxat, as Ive just weened myself off them for the first time in 6 years!
:thrilled: There was a lot of bad press about Seroxat and how it actually made bad situations worse. I believe in myself it was making me anxious, irrational, jealous and paranoid! I feel so much more rational now lol!xxx
Sex God
Well, I knew that all along, Funk,
http://www.swingingheaven.co.uk/swingers-forum/viewpost/148770.html#148770
....see?
Well, anti-depressants won't cure you in themselves, Funk, they are something you take (and I have taken too) which alleviate the symptoms enough for you to be able to tackle your central problem, whether it's depression, anxiety, panic attacks, or sometimes some type of phobia. Have you been referred for counselling at all? That is often a good way of helping to identify your problems so that you, with help, can do something about them, which will enable you to become a happier more confident person again, so that you can come off the anti-depressants in time, gradually. You're welcome to tell more if you feel able to, you have a good number of listeners here.
Mike.
http://www.swingingheaven.co.uk/swingers-forum/viewpost/148770.html#148770
....see?
Well, anti-depressants won't cure you in themselves, Funk, they are something you take (and I have taken too) which alleviate the symptoms enough for you to be able to tackle your central problem, whether it's depression, anxiety, panic attacks, or sometimes some type of phobia. Have you been referred for counselling at all? That is often a good way of helping to identify your problems so that you, with help, can do something about them, which will enable you to become a happier more confident person again, so that you can come off the anti-depressants in time, gradually. You're welcome to tell more if you feel able to, you have a good number of listeners here.
Mike.
Always consider the worst case scenario my friend. It is so dam easy to say dont do it, but only your deep inner self will stop when it wants. Life is precious and you are here for a purpose, maybe to save the world, maybe so save someone who will be incredibly close, maybe to create a life with someone special.... I just ask you to have some time out and think about it. I have been close to the end, and I feel I have much more to offer others...
Sex God
the funk mate, no need for the sad face.
i think a lot of us kinda picked up that that might be the case, and i had to keep editing to talk about your mate rather than you! ;)
good man! least you're talking to people who've been there. can't really give more advice, but just take it as it comes fella ok? and stick properly to the meds. if they're not working, ask your doc to try something else.
neil ;)
i think a lot of us kinda picked up that that might be the case, and i had to keep editing to talk about your mate rather than you! ;)
good man! least you're talking to people who've been there. can't really give more advice, but just take it as it comes fella ok? and stick properly to the meds. if they're not working, ask your doc to try something else.
neil ;)
