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No, some people are agreeing with you, but some people are saying that what works for you is not neccessarilly the way that works for everyone.
Quote by northwest-cpl
This, as has been pointed out is the one that worked for me and I think the one that is most excepted by the community as a hole (imo)
This way people get to know who you are and find out if they like you before they meet you

That is the way that might be accepted by the regular posters in the cafe forum in this website. I only have about 1300 posts over 3 years - not much. I am roughly in the top 100 posters on this site. That is a minute proportion of the membership of this site. We do not know what is being arranged through the photo ads or by whisper in the chat rooms. The "cafe way" to success in swinging seems to be a long drawn out process that has limited returns if you are here for sex with a number of different people. There are probably more people playing on a Saturday in Chameleons than have reached 1000 posts here, and many of those will have never logged in to Swinging Heaven.
Club and Chatroom users don't often come in here and whinge about not getting laid in clubs or the chatrooms (it's usually about no response from photo ad's), and if they do people are going to either tell them to stop whining here or maybe try something that gives a reasonable degree of success. If you only use the chatrooms or ads, why should the cafe regulars have to put up with members who've posted bugger all who think that having a moan in here will somehow fix the lack of response to ads, many of the regular users don't even have a photo ad. But we give out advice based on experience thats proved successful, nobody is forced to follow it but they can't say they weren't given some help.
You can't win though, when someone does take the time to try and help they then have to put up with getting flamed by other members who enjoy nothing more than writing long rants and moans about 'tedious, dull & boring look at me- i got laid' threads without actually bothering to give any useful input themselves, as usual rolleyes
If they have a better suggestion, lets hear it
Quote by meat2pleaseu
If they have a better suggestion, lets hear it

Go to a club.
Quote by northwest-cpl

If they have a better suggestion, lets hear it

Go to a club.
in that case this thread wont do them any good will it? rolleyes
all i was trying to do was give the newbie single guy a pointer in the right direction
i have infact had a PM off one of said newbies asking for advice and thanking me for starting the thread :shock:
Quote by northwest-cpl

If they have a better suggestion, lets hear it

Go to a club.
and what if you live miles from a club or don't find them appealing? or you don't drive and have to use public transport?
Quote by sercher01
errrr! so what your all trying to say is "sercher your wrong" :shock:
ok! was only trying to help
sorry redface

Why are you on the defencive searcher? You've posted it and those that find it usefull will read and ingest it those that it is no help to what so ever will simply ignore it no need to claim you got it wrong simply because others have inputed negative comments towards the subject confused
My tuppence for what it's worth is that I've never met couples through the forums prefering to use the photo ad's (when I was single) I did so for plenty of reasons the forum is way too public to meet people for my likeing, also tho we all know each other on here in a virtual sense and pass coments on pretty much every subject there is like it or not forum users are a tiny minority of the site and with that the site is a tiny minority of the swinging world............so what works for one may not work for others advice is always welcome but with so many people looking for such a variety of things from swinging there is no sure fire way to success and there never will be smile
Quote by meat2pleaseu

If they have a better suggestion, lets hear it

Go to a club.
and what if you live miles from a club or don't find them appealing? or you don't drive and have to use public transport?
If you live miles from a club then you are likely to live miles from a munch. We know several people that use public transport to get to a club and stay at hotels after, just as people going to a munch often do. If people are looking for sex, then the time and effort spent on going to a munch would probably be better spent on going to a club.
If they don't find clubs appealing, but still want sex, then I would suggest LMU, the ads or the chat rooms as a better bet than the cafe.
Quote by northwest-cpl

If they have a better suggestion, lets hear it

Go to a club.
and what if you live miles from a club or don't find them appealing? or you don't drive and have to use public transport?
If you live miles from a club then you are likely to live miles from a munch. We know several people that use public transport to get to a club and stay at hotels after, just as people going to a munch often do. If people are looking for sex, then the time and effort spent on going to a munch would probably be better spent on going to a club.
If they don't find clubs appealing, but still want sex, then I would suggest LMU, the ads or the chat rooms as a better bet than the cafe.
Although i've not been to a club myself, i do know many regular club users and think this bit of the original post is relevant to clubs, chat and LMU as well
Quote by searcher
It seems to me that you single guy’s that bitch about not getting answers from e-mail’s or not getting to meet anyone ,have the wrong attitude
You don’t just “pay your money and take your pick” lads
You have to work at it
Be nice , be polite ,have a giggle
So! To summarise
Be nice
Be funny
Be polite
Be patient
Be friends

i can't see too many people being happy about some bloke trying to stick his cock in their face or elsewhere without asking or being invited. most of the club users i know do like to chat and socialise their as well (almost like a munch isn't it?) before playing, anyone arrogant enough to just assume they can join in is usually told to where the door is.
Searcher has tried his best to give some advice and got flamed for it by some of the regs, at no point did they offer anything more than a moan. If they have nothing constructive to ad whats the point of their post?
Fair enough if someone thinks they can offer helpful advice but would that it were that easy.
I'm a fairly regular poster on this forum,am polite,good humoured and honest in private communications and haven't had a single meet in 2006!
I know I lack photos but 't know how but yes I know I could/must learn if I do due to fear of being recognised I cannot put anything facial up which leaves body shots which could be anyone.I have never claimed to be a male model,I look ok but am not the next Brad Pitt!
Likewise my potential partners don't have to be movie star look-a-likes either!
I'll admit,my interest IS in finding like minded folk to share discreet NSA sexual course there is more to the forum and to people themselves but its not an unreasonable deisre for anyone to express considering the nature of the site.
Quote by meat2pleaseu
Although i've not been to a club myself, i do know many regular club users and think this bit of the original post is relevant to clubs, chat and LMU as well
i can't see too many people being happy about some bloke trying to stick his cock in their face or elsewhere without asking or being invited. most of the club users i know do like to chat and socialise their as well (almost like a munch isn't it?) before playing, anyone arrogant enough to just assume they can join in is usually told to where the door is.

Maybe you should try a club and see for yourself what actually happens then. What you describe that your regular club going friends do certainly doesn't apply to all club goers although it might apply to some people at some clubs. Having been to several munches and many clubs, including going to clubs before and after munches, I wouldn't suggest that they were at all alike.
Quote by niceandgentle
Fair enough if someone thinks they can offer helpful advice but would that it were that easy.
I'm a fairly regular poster on this forum,am polite,good humoured and honest in private communications and haven't had a single meet in 2006!
I know I lack photos but 't know how but yes I know I could/must learn if I do due to fear of being recognised I cannot put anything facial up which leaves body shots which could be anyone.I have never claimed to be a male model,I look ok but am not the next Brad Pitt!
Likewise my potential partners don't have to be movie star look-a-likes either!
I'll admit,my interest IS in finding like minded folk to share discreet NSA sexual course there is more to the forum and to people themselves but its not an unreasonable deisre for anyone to express considering the nature of the site.

try to put yourself in the other persons position !
imo face pics for single guys are a must (even if you only send them privetley )
most woman like to see what you look like (not the size of your dick rolleyes )
the problem with the internet is you can be who ever you want ?????? :shock:
get a face pic i think thats the way to go wink
Quote by sercher01
Fair enough if someone thinks they can offer helpful advice but would that it were that easy.
I'm a fairly regular poster on this forum,am polite,good humoured and honest in private communications and haven't had a single meet in 2006!
I know I lack photos but 't know how but yes I know I could/must learn if I do due to fear of being recognised I cannot put anything facial up which leaves body shots which could be anyone.I have never claimed to be a male model,I look ok but am not the next Brad Pitt!
Likewise my potential partners don't have to be movie star look-a-likes either!
I'll admit,my interest IS in finding like minded folk to share discreet NSA sexual course there is more to the forum and to people themselves but its not an unreasonable deisre for anyone to express considering the nature of the site.

try to put yourself in the other persons position !
imo face pics for single guys are a must (even if you only send them privetley )
most woman like to see what you look like (not the size of your dick rolleyes )
the problem with the internet is you can be who ever you want ?????? :shock:
get a face pic i think thats the way to go wink
I DO put myself in the other persons position,I am 100% open and honest with anyone and care very much about their feelings and wishes.
I CANNOT put a face pic up on this site and nor can many others.
I take your point about sending one privately but am very nervous about that being abused.
Yes you can be whoever you want on the net but I'm being me,I'm not claiming to be a 24 year old six-packed body builder or anything like that.
Quote by niceandgentle
Fair enough if someone thinks they can offer helpful advice but would that it were that easy.
I'm a fairly regular poster on this forum,am polite,good humoured and honest in private communications and haven't had a single meet in 2006!
I know I lack photos but 't know how but yes I know I could/must learn if I do due to fear of being recognised I cannot put anything facial up which leaves body shots which could be anyone.I have never claimed to be a male model,I look ok but am not the next Brad Pitt!
Likewise my potential partners don't have to be movie star look-a-likes either!
I'll admit,my interest IS in finding like minded folk to share discreet NSA sexual course there is more to the forum and to people themselves but its not an unreasonable deisre for anyone to express considering the nature of the site.

try to put yourself in the other persons position !
imo face pics for single guys are a must (even if you only send them privetley )
most woman like to see what you look like (not the size of your dick rolleyes )
the problem with the internet is you can be who ever you want ?????? :shock:
get a face pic i think thats the way to go wink
I DO put myself in the other persons position,I am 100% open and honest with anyone and care very much about their feelings and wishes.
I CANNOT put a face pic up on this site and nor can many others.
I take your point about sending one privately but am very nervous about that being abused.Yes you can be whoever you want on the net but I'm being me,I'm not claiming to be a 24 year old six-packed body builder or anything like that.
so! when you go to a meet will you where a mask???
what im trying to say is not everyone is as honest and with the amount of " single guys" on her cpl/single fems can aford to be choosy if they want !
wouldnt you like to see who you are going to meet first ?
just my opinion m8 :wink:
Quote by sercher01
all i was trying to do was give the newbie single guy a pointer in the right direction
i have infact had a PM off one of said newbies asking for advice and thanking me for starting the thread :shock:

Good thread searcher! :thumbup:
Quote by sercher01
Fair enough if someone thinks they can offer helpful advice but would that it were that easy.
I'm a fairly regular poster on this forum,am polite,good humoured and honest in private communications and haven't had a single meet in 2006!
I know I lack photos but 't know how but yes I know I could/must learn if I do due to fear of being recognised I cannot put anything facial up which leaves body shots which could be anyone.I have never claimed to be a male model,I look ok but am not the next Brad Pitt!
Likewise my potential partners don't have to be movie star look-a-likes either!
I'll admit,my interest IS in finding like minded folk to share discreet NSA sexual course there is more to the forum and to people themselves but its not an unreasonable deisre for anyone to express considering the nature of the site.

try to put yourself in the other persons position !
imo face pics for single guys are a must (even if you only send them privetley )
most woman like to see what you look like (not the size of your dick rolleyes )
the problem with the internet is you can be who ever you want ?????? :shock:
get a face pic i think thats the way to go wink
I DO put myself in the other persons position,I am 100% open and honest with anyone and care very much about their feelings and wishes.
I CANNOT put a face pic up on this site and nor can many others.
I take your point about sending one privately but am very nervous about that being abused.Yes you can be whoever you want on the net but I'm being me,I'm not claiming to be a 24 year old six-packed body builder or anything like that.
so! when you go to a meet will you where a mask???
what im trying to say is not everyone is as honest and with the amount of " single guys" on her cpl/single fems can aford to be choosy if they want !
wouldnt you like to see who you are going to meet first ?
just my opinion m8 :wink:
try a webcam, no chance of a photo being misused, proves you are who you say you are, only need to show your face not perform or anything, also proves the person you are meeting is also genuine.
personally i dont like them and feel uncomfortable but am quite willing to use one to prove i am who i say i am
just a suggestion
Earthy xx
Quote by niceandgentle
I CANNOT put a face pic up on this site and nor can many others.
I take your point about sending one privately but am very nervous about that being abused.

You are right to be cautious of face pictures. We would never post a picture on the internet. Friends of ours had face pictures on another site and found their advert posted up in their local pub. Even sending a face picture involves a lot of trust in the other person as to what they might do with it. Again, it's not unknown for someone's picture to appear on other people's adverts.
One solution is to open a new account and use a face picture as your avatar on msn. It could still be screen captured but would be so small as to be worthless. Anyone who wanted to see you could add you to msn but still be able to block you if you turn out to be a minger. lol
Quote by sercher01
Fair enough if someone thinks they can offer helpful advice but would that it were that easy.
I'm a fairly regular poster on this forum,am polite,good humoured and honest in private communications and haven't had a single meet in 2006!
I know I lack photos but 't know how but yes I know I could/must learn if I do due to fear of being recognised I cannot put anything facial up which leaves body shots which could be anyone.I have never claimed to be a male model,I look ok but am not the next Brad Pitt!
Likewise my potential partners don't have to be movie star look-a-likes either!
I'll admit,my interest IS in finding like minded folk to share discreet NSA sexual course there is more to the forum and to people themselves but its not an unreasonable deisre for anyone to express considering the nature of the site.

try to put yourself in the other persons position !
imo face pics for single guys are a must (even if you only send them privetley )
most woman like to see what you look like (not the size of your dick rolleyes )
the problem with the internet is you can be who ever you want ?????? :shock:
get a face pic i think thats the way to go wink
I DO put myself in the other persons position,I am 100% open and honest with anyone and care very much about their feelings and wishes.
I CANNOT put a face pic up on this site and nor can many others.
I take your point about sending one privately but am very nervous about that being abused.Yes you can be whoever you want on the net but I'm being me,I'm not claiming to be a 24 year old six-packed body builder or anything like that.
so! when you go to a meet will you where a mask???
what im trying to say is not everyone is as honest and with the amount of " single guys" on her cpl/single fems can aford to be choosy if they want !
wouldnt you like to see who you are going to meet first ?
just my opinion m8 :wink:
Prior to this year I have met people via this site.I didn't wear a mask I keep saying I haven't claimed to be fifteen years younger and 3 stone lighter.I always admit my age,my build and that my hair is thinning and that I'm no male model though not a minger either lol!
I have also met people who I hadn't seen pics of so no I didn't have to see them before meeting.
Oh and I am quite aware of the high number of single guys!Such is life eh?
Well, I'm new here (Only just bought membership) and so far it does seem to be a vast amount of single males here for so few females/couples looking for single straight males. Its not something I wasn't expecting as most sites like this are full of single men looking for a quick shag.
I appreciate I've posted a "want a fuck?" type thread, and as expected have no response. I only did it as a kind of "lets get it out in the open early" type thing.
I guess its a case of trying to be all things to all (wo)men. I have face and cock pics on my profile, but I guess its kind of trying to let everyone see everything early and if someone decides they like it then fair enough, if they don't then fair enough too.
The meets and parties Id quite like to go to, but I know I wont be invited/asked for a while and Im happy to accept that.
I think sites like this work when there is a bit of compromise and acceptance both ways. I.E. single males will complain about the lack of response, but at the same time existing posters/members need to accept that that's what this is site is perceived to be by some men.
Just my two penneth
Quote by earthchild
Fair enough if someone thinks they can offer helpful advice but would that it were that easy.
I'm a fairly regular poster on this forum,am polite,good humoured and honest in private communications and haven't had a single meet in 2006!
I know I lack photos but 't know how but yes I know I could/must learn if I do due to fear of being recognised I cannot put anything facial up which leaves body shots which could be anyone.I have never claimed to be a male model,I look ok but am not the next Brad Pitt!
Likewise my potential partners don't have to be movie star look-a-likes either!
I'll admit,my interest IS in finding like minded folk to share discreet NSA sexual course there is more to the forum and to people themselves but its not an unreasonable deisre for anyone to express considering the nature of the site.

try to put yourself in the other persons position !
imo face pics for single guys are a must (even if you only send them privetley )
most woman like to see what you look like (not the size of your dick rolleyes )
the problem with the internet is you can be who ever you want ?????? :shock:
get a face pic i think thats the way to go wink
I DO put myself in the other persons position,I am 100% open and honest with anyone and care very much about their feelings and wishes.
I CANNOT put a face pic up on this site and nor can many others.
I take your point about sending one privately but am very nervous about that being abused.Yes you can be whoever you want on the net but I'm being me,I'm not claiming to be a 24 year old six-packed body builder or anything like that.
so! when you go to a meet will you where a mask???
what im trying to say is not everyone is as honest and with the amount of " single guys" on her cpl/single fems can aford to be choosy if they want !
wouldnt you like to see who you are going to meet first ?
just my opinion m8 :wink:
try a webcam, no chance of a photo being misused, proves you are who you say you are, only need to show your face not perform or anything, also proves the person you are meeting is also genuine.
personally i dont like them and feel uncomfortable but am quite willing to use one to prove i am who i say i am
just a suggestion
Earthy xx
Thanks Earthy.I see your point but that idea bothers me too as I see it does your good self!There's no easy answer is there!
Quote by northwest-cpl
I CANNOT put a face pic up on this site and nor can many others.
I take your point about sending one privately but am very nervous about that being abused.

You are right to be cautious of face pictures. We would never post a picture on the internet. Friends of ours had face pictures on another site and found their advert posted up in their local pub. Even sending a face picture involves a lot of trust in the other person as to what they might do with it. Again, it's not unknown for someone's picture to appear on other people's adverts.
One solution is to open a new account and use a face picture as your avatar on msn. It could still be screen captured but would be so small as to be worthless. Anyone who wanted to see you could add you to msn but still be able to block you if you turn out to be a minger. lol
That story is shocking about that ad being put up in the a mean thing to do to them!
As I've said I'm not a Brad but not a minger either but thanks for that suggestion nwcpl!
bugger! i mist the quote on the "self apointed sex guru " lol
but as you can now see there are ways of getting a pic up where it can be seen safley
and as is now becoming clear i think getting seen is the thing to do as a single guy
it all come down to the look i think
if you look like someones type they will start to talk and then hopefully arange a meet dunno
but as has been pointed out everyone is different wink
Quote by sercher01
bugger! i mist the quote on the "self apointed sex guru " lol
but as you can now see there are ways of getting a pic up where it can be seen safley
and as is now becoming clear i think getting seen is the thing to do as a single guy
it all come down to the look i think
if you look like someones type they will start to talk and then hopefully arange a meet dunno
but as has been pointed out everyone is different wink

can i just say something to this, i used to think i had a type, but not since i joined the scene, now i find if i get on with someone really well i will play with them, i have played with people i never would have thouht i would, in the same vane, someone can look as gorgeous as they want, but if they are a total twat forget it, my mind needs as much stimulation as the rest of me
Quote by earthchild
bugger! i mist the quote on the "self apointed sex guru " lol
but as you can now see there are ways of getting a pic up where it can be seen safley
and as is now becoming clear i think getting seen is the thing to do as a single guy
it all come down to the look i think
if you look like someones type they will start to talk and then hopefully arange a meet dunno
but as has been pointed out everyone is different wink

can i just say something to this, i used to think i had a type, but not since i joined the scene, now i find if i get on with someone really well i will play with them, i have played with people i never would have thouht i would, in the same vane, someone can look as gorgeous as they want, but if they are a total twat forget it, my mind needs as much stimulation as the rest of me
so its a combanation of both then? :wink:
Quote by sercher01
bugger! i mist the quote on the "self apointed sex guru " lol
but as you can now see there are ways of getting a pic up where it can be seen safley
and as is now becoming clear i think getting seen is the thing to do as a single guy
it all come down to the look i think
if you look like someones type they will start to talk and then hopefully arange a meet dunno
but as has been pointed out everyone is different wink

can i just say something to this, i used to think i had a type, but not since i joined the scene, now i find if i get on with someone really well i will play with them, i have played with people i never would have thouht i would, in the same vane, someone can look as gorgeous as they want, but if they are a total twat forget it, my mind needs as much stimulation as the rest of me
so its a combanation of both then? :wink:
i tend to find i am attracted to a way a person posts and the things they say first if you take the forums for example, hopefully meeting that person at a social etc i am also attracted to them physically, this is the bonus, if when i meet them i am attracted to them physically but the online persona is nothing like the real life one and i dont like them personality wise then forget it
Quote by Airsteward
Well, I'm new here (Only just bought membership) and so far it does seem to be a vast amount of single males here for so few females/couples looking for single straight males. Its not something I wasn't expecting as most sites like this are full of single men looking for a quick shag.
I appreciate I've posted a "want a fuck?" type thread, and as expected have no response. I only did it as a kind of "lets get it out in the open early" type thing.
I guess its a case of trying to be all things to all (wo)men. I have face and cock pics on my profile, but I guess its kind of trying to let everyone see everything early and if someone decides they like it then fair enough, if they don't then fair enough too.
The meets and parties Id quite like to go to, but I know I wont be invited/asked for a while and Im happy to accept that.
I think sites like this work when there is a bit of compromise and acceptance both ways. I.E. single males will complain about the lack of response, but at the same time existing posters/members need to accept that that's what this is site is perceived to be by some men.
Just my two penneth

:thumbup: :thumbup: and a very valid two penneth! However, there are a fari few couples and single females who are looking for single males, its just that not everyone necesarily advertises and they do what Searcher mentioned, and use other ways of making contact.
Niceandgentle, I do understand your concern over not wanting to put face pics on, and we dont have any face pics on, but you could put a nice body shot on, and I really do think it would get you a better response (I havent looked at your profile, so dont know what pics you have on, Im just basing it on what you said earlier) but personally, I would never respond to an ad which didnt have any sort of photo on it (and I dont mean a cock pic)
Searcher :thumbup: bloody good topic, and even though not everyone has necesarily agreed with your way of doing things, it certainly has got people talking about the ways of being 'sucessful'. One thing you have to take account of is that not everyone has the sort of personality where they could 'sell' themselves how you have, they may not have your confidence or sense of humour, but it obviously worked for you (and as I dont actually know you, this is based on your forums posts) wink
Quote by earthchild
bugger! i mist the quote on the "self apointed sex guru " lol
but as you can now see there are ways of getting a pic up where it can be seen safley
and as is now becoming clear i think getting seen is the thing to do as a single guy
it all come down to the look i think
if you look like someones type they will start to talk and then hopefully arange a meet dunno
but as has been pointed out everyone is different wink

can i just say something to this, i used to think i had a type, but not since i joined the scene, now i find if i get on with someone really well i will play with them, i have played with people i never would have thouht i would, in the same vane, someone can look as gorgeous as they want, but if they are a total twat forget it, my mind needs as much stimulation as the rest of me
so its a combanation of both then? :wink:
i tend to find i am attracted to a way a person posts and the things they say first if you take the forums for example, hopefully meeting that person at a social etc i am also attracted to them physically, this is the bonus, if when i meet them i am attracted to them physically but the online persona is nothing like the real life one and i dont like them personality wise then forget it
so what i said about posting is important to you hun :wink:
i think this is what i was looking for at the start of the thread
this should point the "single guys" in the right direction
thanx earthy i owe you a snog :wink: :rose:
Hey Sercher!! I'm a supporter and I never got a snog sad
:giggle:
Quote by firelizard
Hey Sercher!! I'm a supporter and I never got a snog sad
:giggle:

OMG how could i miss you fire passionkiss
im still having dreams about you in that red dress babe wink
Quote by Naughty Wigan Couple
Searcher :thumbup: bloody good topic, and even though not everyone has necesarily agreed with your way of doing things, it certainly has got people talking about the ways of being 'sucessful'. One thing you have to take account of is that not everyone has the sort of personality where they could 'sell' themselves how you have, they may not have your confidence or sense of humour, but it obviously worked for you (and as I dont actually know you, this is based on your forums posts) wink

I totally agree with NWCs comments.
I have enjoyed watching and reading this thread. Even if the advice doesn't suit or work for everyone, I don't think you can fault somebody for trying to be helpful.
Quote by Kiss
Searcher :thumbup: bloody good topic, and even though not everyone has necesarily agreed with your way of doing things, it certainly has got people talking about the ways of being 'sucessful'. One thing you have to take account of is that not everyone has the sort of personality where they could 'sell' themselves how you have, they may not have your confidence or sense of humour, but it obviously worked for you (and as I dont actually know you, this is based on your forums posts) wink

I totally agree with NWCs comments.
I have enjoyed watching and reading this thread. Even if the advice doesn't suit or work for everyone, I don't think you can fault somebody for trying to be helpful.
your only saying that cos you want a snog too rolleyes
but i do hope this helps some of the guys
i think if they bother to read the hole thread they may gleen some valuadle information dunno
that was my thought when i started this thread anyway :wink: