Oh, don't get too disturbed by the windscreen, I'm not. Probably just a peed-off driveby or gay. I've had a couple of shows since in the same layby and no more trouble.............yet. I think I know who the guy is now, or at least which double-glazing van he drives normally.
Of course, with a few of us at the shows the word soon gets about (especially if one is a truck driver) so tonight the layby was packed with trucks and drivebys....no room for any show then...
Just try to have a bit of fun...slowly !
think you lot are getting confused as to what doggin is about, we turn up, if we are't hounded by idiots we flash the light and put on a show. if we are not happy we leave simple as that. its not about implementing systems to weed out timewasters its about doing what you enjoy. it appears that no one these days has the patience to sit and wait for a show, everfything has to be pre arranged. well sorry to disapoint you but we don't work like that and i know for a fact many other cpls don't either. when we feel horny we go out for a drive...simple if your in the carpark and your well behaved you'll get a show.
hope this is a help to you, because you seem to be spending too much time trying to make dogging convenient to fit in with your busy lives.
take care and try to have fun
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Yes ?
Funny, I always did think that.
It ain't me that's confused guys....I always knew that doggers are watchers....it's the new breed that decided that dogging was an easy way to get a leg-over. To them, it beats a night in the pub and costs less.
You two just carry on as you are, if they don't like it they don't need to go to the sites.
It's not their busy lives they are trying to arrange things around, it's their lack of patience.
"see you at the old mill car park at ...don't be late I've got to be in before or the old lady will be mad"
Welcome to dogging 2003 style.
I thought that the gay references smacked of homophobia.
I have a question on the "inner circle"concept.
There was an issue back in the 1980s era of high unemployement to do with people not being able to get jobs because of a lack of experience, and not being able to get experience because they couldn't get a job - because of a lack of experience!
The classic Catch 22!
How do you intend to square the circle with us newbies? If you have a "trusted" inner circle, then you will become elitist and the newcummers will find it very hard to break in - and the serious ones will end up drifting away, leaving you with the very timewasters you were trying to deal with in the first place!
Just my 2 Euros worth!
A lot of social communities on the net end up with an unofficial inner circle. If they don't like you, or the things you're looking for, they can become very hostile. I've seen people chased out of sex chat rooms for wanting cyber.
That doesn't happen here. I don't know why. I suspect it's partly because the nature of the site attracts fairly open minded people in the first place, and also because we're blessed with an administrator who is active in the forum (and not in a "hand of God" way). If it ain't broke...
But is it not broke? Some people seem to think it is, and some people think it isn't. Does that depend on what you're looking for? Expectations? Level of patience? Whether you have a dog or a cat?
Personally, I think it's not broke, and I'd be rather miffed if someone tried to fix it. But I haven't posted an ad here, nor replied to any. So what do I know?
I have failed to see a post of mine where I accuse gays of posing as couples.
I have replied to the moderators concerns (PM) about my supposed homophobia.
We won't get into specifics here...........no actually, we will.
In fact many of the gay guys on sites are great to chat to (long nights, low activity) but, like doggers, there is a new breed. With new doggers it tends to be the "its my car park, you can piss off"...
With the gay community at cruising sites it's the new arrival who just ain't sure whether he is or ain't, and consequently he leaves everyone wondering.
You tend to write off the occasional grab for the crotch, it goes with the game really.
However, I will state for everyone to read: I am not homophobic.
(but I do wish they'd clean up after themselves)
Well...I hang my head.
Homophobia is a bit like nowadays, guilt by accusation.
Now if I can just remember how to tie a sliding noose knot.....................................................................................................
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. Since before this wonderfully liberating discovery all we had was fumbled setups at trying to get caught at it, its gonna take a while to build up steam, but doesn't anything good always take time.
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) about his windscreen experience. Then, I said something to the effect of, indeed the experience was not very nice, but one I am % certain was not perpetrated by a gay man - why on earth would a gay man want to come along and break someone's windscreen at a dogging location, where he would be seen as just as dodgy as the dogger (in this case, Jomu)? Rather, I strongly suspect the act was perpetrated by someone who IS NOTa dogger - gay, straight or otherwise. This nutter probably turned up to cause trouble, perhaps attracted by the recent press coverage. The same guy is probably causing trouble right now in a nightclub somewhere, thus basically a violent troublemaker whatever situation he is in. This is exactly the same thing as football hooliganism - nutters go to matches to be violent and cause trouble, not to watch the match 
), I feel free to come out into the open about my confusion 
