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Listening to a debate on the radio yesterday where an elderly couple said that IF bird flu gets into human population and IF a pandemic arises and IF there is not enough vaccine to go round, then they thought that preference should be given to the young and those in work, with the elderly at the back of the queue for vaccine.
Quite a debate occured with both sides of the argument represented.
It got me thinking however, that if there were VERY limited supplies of vaccine then obviously the essential workers, such as Doctors, Nurses, Police, Electricity supply workers, Water board workers, Gas supply workers would have to be first on the list, just to keep society going.
Appears to me that if those are the essential workers then on the other hand people like footballers, models, singers, media people etc would be at the bottom of the list. Why is it then that the least essential get paid the most in todays society?
John
Um................because idiots like us..............yes I'm guilty of the football thing...........are looking for heroes I suppose. We are so desperate for anything that takes us away from our boring, everyday lives that we are willing to believe that these people are special.
latest rumours on the bird flu vaccine. . . .
the makers of Tamiflu have apparently said they will limit production / availability of Tamiflu unless governments agree to buy their other vaccines! :shock:
so we have a pharmaceutical company as good as blackmailing health services, selling a vaccine targetting a virus that may, or may not, one day cross over into humans, and may, or may not become a global pandemic killing millions , or may, or may not, perhaps just cause a few runny noses and a bit of a cough! dunno
very lucrative all this scaremongering ain't it, when you think you've got the fear factor ramped up nicely and governments over a barrel! mad
neil x x x ;)
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latest rumours on the bird flu vaccine. . . .
the makers of Tamiflu have apparently said they will limit production / availability of Tamiflu unless governments agree to buy their other vaccines! :shock:
neil x x x ;)

Then I say national interest dictates that the Govt sieze the company and it's assets,, and produce it themselves...........
I just want to say my ex is a knob who needs a slap to wake him up about his responiblilies to his child mad :x :x :x :x and to stop wasting money on his new g/f who he has only been seeing for about 2 months who also happens to be my ex best mate :x :x :x :x
Fuck that is abit better helpful advice needed lol
From what I am told the company are limiting pruduction because of there other products running low.
That seems to be the reason.
phredd
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I just want to say my ex is a knob who needs a slap to wake him up about his responiblilies to his child mad :x :x :x :x and to stop wasting money on his new g/f who he has only been seeing for about 2 months who also happens to be my ex best mate :x :x :x :x
Fuck that is abit better helpful advice needed lol

Lots of hugs to you from me kiss
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I just want to say my ex is a knob who needs a slap to wake him up about his responiblilies to his child mad :x :x :x :x and to stop wasting money on his new g/f who he has only been seeing for about 2 months who also happens to be my ex best mate :x :x :x :x
Fuck that is abit better helpful advice needed lol

Well a packet of very blunt razor blades evil :evil: :evil: :evil: was my first thought but then I thought set the Child support agency or solicitors for an attachment order on his wages so child support is taken at source.
So two bases covered there
And massive hugs to you hunni
Steph wink
CSA won't help if you're not on benefits ... I'm still waiting for my ex to be assessed and I put the claim in 7 years ago! Still haven't had a penny
C x
Cheers u lovely honeys......csa make him pay but the agreement is cash in hand to me but that might just be changing......solicitor might also be happening but watch this space
Its more the bloody cheek of him really..he gives it i love her and want to see her etc but then when its something important like her birthday ..yes he saw her but only got her a shit present and he knows my situation and i couldnt get her much but managed afew bits...he promised to get her lots so make up for me but well he didnt and im the one left feeling down and unhappy mad
On the other hand at least i know i am better off without a tosser like him.....its just i feel for my little one thats all
mad It really pisses me off when you sent pm's containing a question and people cant even be bothered to be polite with an answer,its so bloody rude GRRRRR :x
Also being ill is really starting to piss me off too :x Im fed up with being so bloody not a weak and feeble woman yet i end up being like one :x DOUBLE GRR GRRRR
also while im at it why do nicotine patches have to be so bloody itchy????? :x GRRRR
Oh and one last thing,why is it that im not entitled to any benefits while im not capable of working because ive only ever worked part time??? :x When theres people out there who cant be arsed to get off their backsides and do some bloody work but get a sodding forune in benefits :x :x :x FUCKING GRRRRR
Sorry!got on a bit of a roll there rolleyes
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mad It really pisses me off when you sent pm's containing a question and people cant even be bothered to be polite with an answer,its so bloody rude GRRRRR :x
Also being ill is really starting to piss me off too :x Im fed up with being so bloody not a weak and feeble woman yet i end up being like one :x DOUBLE GRR GRRRR
also while im at it why do nicotine patches have to be so bloody itchy????? :x GRRRR
Oh and one last thing,why is it that im not entitled to any benefits while im not capable of working because ive only ever worked part time??? :x When theres people out there who cant be arsed to get off their backsides and do some bloody work but get a sodding forune in benefits :x :x :x FUCKING GRRRRR
Sorry!got on a bit of a roll there rolleyes

We had this earlier last year, £80 a week coming in and no one would help sad It's so frurstrating and adds to the illness so much because of the stress. You can still get housing & Council Tax benefit though (don't know if you know this).
C x
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mad It really pisses me off when you sent pm's containing a question and people cant even be bothered to be polite with an answer,its so bloody rude GRRRRR :x
Also being ill is really starting to piss me off too :x Im fed up with being so bloody not a weak and feeble woman yet i end up being like one :x DOUBLE GRR GRRRR
also while im at it why do nicotine patches have to be so bloody itchy????? :x GRRRR
Oh and one last thing,why is it that im not entitled to any benefits while im not capable of working because ive only ever worked part time??? :x When theres people out there who cant be arsed to get off their backsides and do some bloody work but get a sodding forune in benefits :x :x :x FUCKING GRRRRR
Sorry!got on a bit of a roll there rolleyes

We had this earlier last year, £80 a week coming in and no one would help sad It's so frurstrating and adds to the illness so much because of the stress. You can still get housing & Council Tax benefit though (don't know if you know this).
C x
we cant because steve works full time :x
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mad It really pisses me off when you sent pm's containing a question and people cant even be bothered to be polite with an answer,its so bloody rude GRRRRR :x
Also being ill is really starting to piss me off too :x Im fed up with being so bloody not a weak and feeble woman yet i end up being like one :x DOUBLE GRR GRRRR
also while im at it why do nicotine patches have to be so bloody itchy????? :x GRRRR
Oh and one last thing,why is it that im not entitled to any benefits while im not capable of working because ive only ever worked part time??? :x When theres people out there who cant be arsed to get off their backsides and do some bloody work but get a sodding forune in benefits :x :x :x FUCKING GRRRRR
Sorry!got on a bit of a roll there rolleyes

We had this earlier last year, £80 a week coming in and no one would help sad It's so frurstrating and adds to the illness so much because of the stress. You can still get housing & Council Tax benefit though (don't know if you know this).
C x
we cant because steve works full time :x
You should be entitled to Income Support i would have thought, also Child Tax Credit on your husbands' wages......
equi-princess xxx
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mad It really pisses me off when you sent pm's containing a question and people cant even be bothered to be polite with an answer,its so bloody rude GRRRRR :x
Also being ill is really starting to piss me off too :x Im fed up with being so bloody not a weak and feeble woman yet i end up being like one :x DOUBLE GRR GRRRR
also while im at it why do nicotine patches have to be so bloody itchy????? :x GRRRR
Oh and one last thing,why is it that im not entitled to any benefits while im not capable of working because ive only ever worked part time??? :x When theres people out there who cant be arsed to get off their backsides and do some bloody work but get a sodding forune in benefits :x :x :x FUCKING GRRRRR
Sorry!got on a bit of a roll there rolleyes

We had this earlier last year, £80 a week coming in and no one would help sad It's so frurstrating and adds to the illness so much because of the stress. You can still get housing & Council Tax benefit though (don't know if you know this).
C x
we cant because steve works full time :x
You should be entitled to Income Support i would have thought, also Child Tax Credit on your husbands' wages......
equi-princess xxx
We get the bare minimum of child tax credit as i did have some earnings this income support again because steve works full time.
equi-princess wrote:
Clare and Steve wrote:
Calista wrote:
Clare and Steve wrote:
icon_ It really pisses me off when you sent pm's containing a question and people cant even be bothered to be polite with an answer,its so bloody rude GRRRRR icon_
Also being ill is really starting to piss me off too icon_ Im fed up with being so bloody not a weak and feeble woman yet i end up being like one icon_ DOUBLE GRR GRRRR
also while im at it why do nicotine patches have to be so bloody itchy????? icon_ GRRRR
Oh and one last thing,why is it that im not entitled to any benefits while im not capable of working because ive only ever worked part time??? icon_ When theres people out there who cant be arsed to get off their backsides and do some bloody work but get a sodding forune in benefits icon_ icon_ icon_ FUCKING GRRRRR
Sorry!got on a bit of a roll there icon_
We had this earlier last year, £80 a week coming in and no one would help icon_ It's so frurstrating and adds to the illness so much because of the stress. You can still get housing & Council Tax benefit though (don't know if you know this).
C x
we cant because steve works full time icon_
You should be entitled to Income Support i would have thought, also Child Tax Credit on your husbands' wages......
equi-princess xxx
We get the bare minimum of child tax credit as i did have some earnings this income support again because steve works full time.

I understand u here...got the same problems bloody goverment....sort of wish i wasnt born in this country and moved here afew years back.......at least i'll get more benefits rolleyes
I thought Tamiflu was a basic broad spectrum antiviral agent, not a vaccine? LIke anti biotics, but effective against viruses. I know we do have some anti virral drugs these days, thats what they use against shingles for starters.
A vaccine would take a few months to be produced, once you had some of the infectious agent to produce it from. On radio last night the basic desdription of a flu vaccine was breed loads of virus and then kill it. Take whats left and inject it to trip the immune system and build resistance. The yearly vaccines are done that way, with doctors second guessing which varients will be strongest in a few months, and targeting them. Problem with flu is it changes slightly every time it replicates, so it is a moving target for a vaccine. Apparently all the flu viruses came from birds, they just got a foothold in the human population.
As for the newest bird flu, still no guarentee it will cross the gap. As was said on thought for the day, maybe we should focus more on the real viruses that are killing millions and worry less on those that might. confused
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Listening to a debate on the radio yesterday where an elderly couple said that IF bird flu gets into human population and IF a pandemic arises and IF there is not enough vaccine to go round, then they thought that preference should be given to the young and those in work, with the elderly at the back of the queue for vaccine.
Quite a debate occured with both sides of the argument represented.
It got me thinking however, that if there were VERY limited supplies of vaccine then obviously the essential workers, such as Doctors, Nurses, Police, Electricity supply workers, Water board workers, Gas supply workers would have to be first on the list, just to keep society going.
Appears to me that if those are the essential workers then on the other hand people like footballers, models, singers, media people etc would be at the bottom of the list. Why is it then that the least essential get paid the most in todays society?
John

thats you off my xmas card list :upset:
This is just a tiny little rant. But if i strikes a chord then so be it.
My poor man is a bit ill so I did him a chicken yesterday, cooled it in the fridge overnight and took it to him this morning. By the way - this is the third weekend I've spent alone and I don't like it.
On the way I stopped to talk to a shopkeeper I know slightly. She was washing her shop window. I didn't want to stop so said something like I wouldn't keep her from her work but she did want to talk. Somebody had thrown discarded take away food at her window and she was washing it off. She pointed out to me that somebody had also uprooted a nearby litter bin.
Apparently these bins are not too difficult to uproot. They are made a bit delicate so that if you drive into it, it falls over so that your car, and you, are not damaged. But it allows vandals to have a go at them.
Carrying on up the road there are two or three small terraces of rather nice houses. Too expensive for me but, by conincidence I suppose, three or four of them are for sale. All the "For Sale" signs had been unprooted or damaged.
Now what I want to know is why people - presumably young people - do these things.
It has been said to me that I'm getting older and that older people have always said that the young are badly behaved. I don't believe this. In the 26 years I have lived here I have seen more and more shops feeling the need to put up shutters. If behaviour was getting no worse then business people would not go to the expense of fitting these shutters. Probably not cheap.
So I thought I'd ask any youngish people here why it goes on. Then I thought that anybody intelligent enough to be here isn't going to be doing that sort of vandalism anyway.
Just a little rant.
Mollie
I'm only 22, and I have never taken part in any acts of vandalism. Its not always young people that do things like this, where I live I've heard of people in the 30-40yo age bracket that have smashed car windows etc. Anyone, young or old, is capable of vandalism, but I think most of it is fuelled by alcohol.
I understand the rant totally!
Where I live it is the youngsters, they have been caught doing it on many occasions but they are still wandering the streets destroying everything. The culprits are mainly under 12 incidentally, though there is a largish group of 15-17 year olds who have recently been seen smashing car windows. There is hardly a bus stop round here without broken glass, all the telephone boxes are broken (phones and windows) all the shops have shutters and there are always several piles of burnt our rubbish such as shopping trolleys or old sofas around. I live in quite an affluent town, though it does have its more difficult areas but it doesn’t seem to matter what type of people live there, this type of vandalism is all around. It’s especially bad during the school holidays.
PS I hope your hubby gets better soon smile
When I was 7 and my mum married the idiot, I was left to my own devices and used to do a bit of vandalism, throwing eggs at windows or smashing windows. Pretty much grew out of it by the age of 11 or 12 though.
So, from personal experience, it's parents who let their kids do what the hell they want that are to blame. I reckon that if caught, the culprits should have their homes smashed up a bit.
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PS I hope your hubby gets better soon smile

Thanks for that. He's not my hubby but is the long-term number one boyfriend. I have a daughter at home and he's not keen to live at my house and I can't leave my daughter until she feels able to fend for herself. We rub along ok.
Thanks
Mollie
Actually I hadn't joined just to have a moan - but here's another moan - how come the topic was locked giving me no chance to reply. I have only been a member of photo ads since October as a single but a member for nearly a year as a couple.
what???????? rolleyes :roll: :roll: :roll:
We don't want you to reply. We want you to stop moaning - and here you are doing it again!
rolleyes :roll: :roll:
nigep, I think that what Kit and Jags are trying to point out is that what has happened to you can and does happen to many others as well........... It's just the way it goes sometimes.
Instead of relying just on the ads, try sticking around and getting to know people.... you may find you then get invited to munches and then who knows what may develop for you.
So for now stop worrying about it (read moaning) and just chill a bit
M & H
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nigep, I think that what Kit and Jags are trying to point out is that what has happened to you can and does happen to many others as well........... It's just the way it goes sometimes.
Instead of relying just on the ads, try sticking around and getting to know people.... you may find you then get invited to munches and then who knows what may develop for you.
So for now stop worrying about it (read moaning) and just chill a bit
M & H

i have to agree babes chill ok................... we all love ya honist did i say that! :shock:
Two reasons why I don't reply to ALL emails that come my way:
1. There are often too many to reply to, and most are just one lines saying 'wanna shag'.
2. If I reply then that person automatically has my email address.
I don't think people are being rude, they are just being selective smile
I have posted in here a couple of times with a few lighthearted remarks but for the first time I really have to RANT!!!
BEWARE bad language about to follow!!
I am sooooo fucking mad right now. I organised a Munch last night, it's been planned since May and there were originally 90-odd people on the list.....
Just to make it clear, i have NO problems with those that can't make it for whatever reason and let me know by some form of communication (text, phone, PM, Email or on the thread)....we all know things happen, even on the night that means people can't make it, so please be CLEAR I don't have a problem with those people....
What i DO have a huge fucking problem with is those people that say they want to come, ask to come and even sometimes beg to come and then don't fucking well turn up!!! mad :x :x :x :x :x :x :x
I have sent out two different PM's - One saying "You are definitely invited, stand by for details" and One saying "Here is your invite the Munch will be at such and such a place".....so people can't say they didn't get an Invite and if they didn't get an Invite they should have PM'd me to say so!!!
I very nearly didn't have enough money to pay the Bouncer last night, a measley £50 because people didn't bother to turn up!!! We had 25 people that turned up last night out of nearly 90 that were on the list!!!! And granted about 10 people had PM'd me or Texted me to say they couldn't come which was fine, but where were the other 55 people that didn't turn up!!!!!!!! :x
I am sooooo fucking mad right now at the inconsiderate people that almost ruined nearly 6 months of planning and organising.....well I hope you're all proud of yourselves and feel very ashamed of yourselves......If you have any decency you'll send me a PM today about why you weren't there!!!!
Right, rant over......Phew, I feel a bit better now.....