Is this good or bad......?
I personally don't mind.....
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:rotflmao: :rotflmao: On a more serious note, though, I really don't think the change in the law is a good idea. Longer opening hours for pubs were supposed to reduce the binge-drinking as the theory was that if people could drink for longer they wouldn't have to throw so much down their necks so quickly. That hasn't worked, people are drinking just as quickly and more of it.
I really don't know where this mentality has come from. You don't see the same kind of piss-head culture abroad...............except from British holidaymakers.
I really don't know where this mentality has come from. You don't see the same kind of piss-head culture abroad...............except from British holidaymakers.
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On a more serious note, though, I really don't think the change in the law is a good idea. Longer opening hours for pubs were supposed to reduce the binge-drinking as the theory was that if people could drink for longer they wouldn't have to throw so much down their necks so quickly. That hasn't worked, people are drinking just as quickly and more of it.
I really don't know where this mentality has come from. You don't see the same kind of piss-head culture abroad...............except from British holidaymakers.
I have to agree....it will not stop the mindless binge drinking culture (I use that word loosely) the brits have been tarred with.
CheekyChimp.....
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I guess it means my head will hurt more the next day :cheers:
:cry: :( The only reason we had this ridiculous law is to stop workers in first world war munitions factories from turning up drunk.
The police (and taxi frms for that matter) simply can't cope with the 11:30 chaos, but by spreading out leaving times. the potential for trouble wil be reduced.
I disagree with those who say people will drink more - once we've got over the initial celebrations, the hard truth that drink is expensive and staying up all night drinking makes you a mess in the morning will hit home. On the continent, where 24 hour driking is the norm, there is no problem, so why should there be here. If there is a tendendcy to keep going at 'binge drinking' speed, it's the old law that gave rise to the problem that's to blame, not the new one!
I head on Radio 4 that 3/4 of pubs and clubs are going to be opening later than 11 now.
The police (and taxi frms for that matter) simply can't cope with the 11:30 chaos, but by spreading out leaving times. the potential for trouble wil be reduced.
I disagree with those who say people will drink more - once we've got over the initial celebrations, the hard truth that drink is expensive and staying up all night drinking makes you a mess in the morning will hit home. On the continent, where 24 hour driking is the norm, there is no problem, so why should there be here. If there is a tendendcy to keep going at 'binge drinking' speed, it's the old law that gave rise to the problem that's to blame, not the new one!
I head on Radio 4 that 3/4 of pubs and clubs are going to be opening later than 11 now.
Quote by Lissa
On a more serious note, though, I really don't think the change in the law is a good idea. Longer opening hours for pubs were supposed to reduce the binge-drinking as the theory was that if people could drink for longer they wouldn't have to throw so much down their necks so quickly. That hasn't worked, people are drinking just as quickly and more of it.
I really don't know where this mentality has come from. You don't see the same kind of piss-head culture abroad...............except from British holidaymakers.
I don't se how you can say that hasn't worked; the change in regulation only came into force last night.
The British holiday maker, you say? The only time I've seen drunkeness of any scale abroad is during 'celebrations' or events, football matches, national days, that sort of thing.
I think it's a good thing, it'll allow us to Munch longer
and that's gotta be good. Actually, I think we will see at munches what is anticipated at other pubs, people will start to drift away, as they do now, around 10, many gone by about midnight, leaving only a 'hardcore' wobbly few wanting a curry when we finally get kicked out. It'll make getting taxis that much easier.Chris.
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The only reason we had this ridiculous law is to stop workers in first world war munitions factories from turning up drunk.
The police (and taxi frms for that matter) simply can't cope with the 11:30 chaos, but by spreading out leaving times. the potential for trouble wil be reduced.
I disagree with those who say people will drink more - once we've got over the initial celebrations, the hard truth that drink is expensive and staying up all night drinking makes you a mess in the morning will hit home. On the continent, where 24 hour driking is the norm, there is no problem, so why should there be here. If there is a tendendcy to keep going at 'binge drinking' speed, it's the old law that gave rise to the problem that's to blame, not the new one!
I head on Radio 4 that 3/4 of pubs and clubs are going to be opening later than 11 now.
Totally agree although do think it will take the 20 to 40 year olds a while to get the binge drinking out of their systems as that what they have been brought up on. Am sure though that in 10 years time this will be seen as a good move and the right thing to have done.
Unusually for Blair it is actually giving us more freedom - perphaps he didn't think it through properly
:lol: I think 24hour licencing is a good thing. We are switching over more and more to a twenty four hour culture with more and more companies adopting round the clock shift pattens.
A friend of mine used to run a pub and it was always really busy between 11am and lunch time. When I asked the reason for this I was told it was the factory night shift who finished at 7 or 8am but then had to wait until 11am to have a pint with their mates before going to bed.
24 hour drinking will allow shift workers to socialise and wind down after a shift, no matter what time that shift ends.
Another advantage is that it will create more jobs in the unskilled sector.
A friend of mine used to run a pub and it was always really busy between 11am and lunch time. When I asked the reason for this I was told it was the factory night shift who finished at 7 or 8am but then had to wait until 11am to have a pint with their mates before going to bed.
24 hour drinking will allow shift workers to socialise and wind down after a shift, no matter what time that shift ends.
Another advantage is that it will create more jobs in the unskilled sector.
This is one of my bees which buzz most strongly. Somehow, the media, the police and us seem to think drink is the problem. I don't think it is.
When I see those pictures of town centres on a Saturday night - I see a school playground. And I was a Dinner Lady for many years so I know about school playgrounds.
I don't know how it came about but somehow we have allowed children to do just what they want without any discipline.
Why should we suddenly expect them to become responsible adults when they get to eighteen? Well, they won't. They've had a lifetime of school playground culture and they don't know they have to become adults. Why grow up if you can continue being Peter?
I know this is a generalisation but I'm certain I've got the essence of what's wrong. We need more discipline for children.
Mollie
When I see those pictures of town centres on a Saturday night - I see a school playground. And I was a Dinner Lady for many years so I know about school playgrounds.
I don't know how it came about but somehow we have allowed children to do just what they want without any discipline.
Why should we suddenly expect them to become responsible adults when they get to eighteen? Well, they won't. They've had a lifetime of school playground culture and they don't know they have to become adults. Why grow up if you can continue being Peter?
I know this is a generalisation but I'm certain I've got the essence of what's wrong. We need more discipline for children.
Mollie
I personally can't see pubs opening 24 hours, seriously how many people will be sat in a pub at 4am? at weekends most will move onto clubs and mid week it will be very limited, ok so there will be a few but i doubt enough to make it worth while them staying open, i think its a good idea to sell it 24 hours in super markets, after all isn't that the point of late night shopping? to go get your shopping if you work funny hours etc? not much cop if you have to go back in the day to pick up stuff you can't get at night is it? 
Tell me when you have a party at your house do you set an curfew and if not does this result in people become aggresive and fighting or do people drink until they have had enough and slope off in the direction of their beds(or other peoples).
I've had access to a somewhat shady pub where me and my friends have drunk until the early hours on more times than I care to remember and I think that the drunkn hours between 2am and 6am where the combination of alchol an dsleep deprivation are the most fun. So I can't wait to spend this time in a more sulbrious environment. :happy: :cheers:
I've had access to a somewhat shady pub where me and my friends have drunk until the early hours on more times than I care to remember and I think that the drunkn hours between 2am and 6am where the combination of alchol an dsleep deprivation are the most fun. So I can't wait to spend this time in a more sulbrious environment. :happy: :cheers:
Sex God
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More time for Munching though :happy:
Trust you to think of that one!
I'll have to check what time the Nottingham munch will now finish :P after all we still need time for shagging, before the hotels check out times at 10am or what ever :twisted:
(or playing in the lifts, or chatting up blue smurfs!)
Sex God
Hmm agree with whats been said about the longer hours being a good thing in general. I work in a nightclub and when we have later licenses (we have been getting them for 2 or 3 nights a month for charity events for years now) then people tend to drift off home at all different time, theres not one huge mass exodus at 2 or 3am.
Also, I don't see why people who can and will drink repsonsibly should be penalised by those who will see it as a reason to get even more trashed than before. I would much rather go at 12 or 1am and dance the night away, than start at 8 and be too trashed to do anything but stagger about by 12. Under the new laws both staff and the venues are responsible for promoting sensible drinking, satff can be fined if caught serving someone who is obvuiosly drunk for example, and in many ways it is making venues think about how to promote repsonsible drinking where they haven't before.
On the downside, where I work, has one of the latest licenses granted (not 24 hrs) and we can now serve till 6am sun - thurs and till 8am fri and sat! So its not good when I'm working!
Also, I don't see why people who can and will drink repsonsibly should be penalised by those who will see it as a reason to get even more trashed than before. I would much rather go at 12 or 1am and dance the night away, than start at 8 and be too trashed to do anything but stagger about by 12. Under the new laws both staff and the venues are responsible for promoting sensible drinking, satff can be fined if caught serving someone who is obvuiosly drunk for example, and in many ways it is making venues think about how to promote repsonsible drinking where they haven't before.
On the downside, where I work, has one of the latest licenses granted (not 24 hrs) and we can now serve till 6am sun - thurs and till 8am fri and sat! So its not good when I'm working!
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Hmm agree with whats been said about the longer hours being a good thing in general. I work in a nightclub and when we have later licenses (we have been getting them for 2 or 3 nights a month for charity events for years now) then people tend to drift off home at all different time, theres not one huge mass exodus at 2 or 3am.
Also, I don't see why people who can and will drink repsonsibly should be penalised by those who will see it as a reason to get even more trashed than before. I would much rather go at 12 or 1am and dance the night away, than start at 8 and be too trashed to do anything but stagger about by 12. Under the new laws both staff and the venues are responsible for promoting sensible drinking, satff can be fined if caught serving someone who is obvuiosly drunk for example, and in many ways it is making venues think about how to promote repsonsible drinking where they haven't before.
On the downside, where I work, has one of the latest licenses granted (not 24 hrs) and we can now serve till 6am sun - thurs and till 8am fri and sat! So its not good when I'm working!
From the horses mouth as it were...(no offence meant).....
Do / will staff get a shift allowance..?
Sexlightened
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The only reason we had this ridiculous law is to stop workers in first world war munitions factories from turning up drunk.
The police (and taxi frms for that matter) simply can't cope with the 11:30 chaos, but by spreading out leaving times. the potential for trouble wil be reduced.
I disagree with those who say people will drink more - once we've got over the initial celebrations, the hard truth that drink is expensive and staying up all night drinking makes you a mess in the morning will hit home. On the continent, where 24 hour driking is the norm, there is no problem, so why should there be here. If there is a tendendcy to keep going at 'binge drinking' speed, it's the old law that gave rise to the problem that's to blame, not the new one!
I head on Radio 4 that 3/4 of pubs and clubs are going to be opening later than 11 now.
Tottally agree...........the only thing is that pubs shouldn't have to ask for twenty four hours or variations of that they should just stay open and closed as they see fit and as long as it fits in with the local reasons on both sides...........people will just melt away into the night and not all at 11pm and 2am..........oh by the way if I manage a bottle of wine a year I'm lucky
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Exactly... I'm a libertarian, so I believe we should have as few laws as possible. It's a great pity that the current revisions didn't go further and remove the ridiculous ban on dancing in pubs. Can there be any real resason for this law apart from 'thou shalt not have fun'?
Can't dance in Pubs....I never knew that....
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Flexible Licensing laws are upon us, and pubs / bars / clubs / supermarkets can sell alcohol for 24 hours if they so wish....well, most of them that have applied.
Is this good or bad......?
I personally don't mind.....
CheekyChimp.......
Definitely a bad thing.... now instead of the police resources being used to capacity at kicking out time.... they will now be stretched beyond their capabilities by being required to uphold the law 24 hrs a day.... just on drunks and the problems they bring with them... criminal damage, domestic violence, excess alcohol when driving, assault etc etc etc....
The Government has been trying to crack down on binge drinking especially amongst young people... but they have totally lost control of the spiralling situation by allowing this Licencing Law to be brought in.
We definitely suffer from a binge drinking culture amongst young people in this country... and now they will continue their excesses through the night... bringing even more problems... like health issues.
I think for our hospital staff, emergency services, etc.... its a case of watch this space... and then in a few months..... it'll be....... we told you so...!
equi-princess xxx
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Flexible Licensing laws are upon us, and pubs / bars / clubs / supermarkets can sell alcohol for 24 hours if they so wish....well, most of them that have applied.
Is this good or bad......?
I personally don't mind.....
CheekyChimp.......
Definitely a bad thing.... now instead of the police resources being used to capacity at kicking out time.... they will now be stretched beyond their capabilities by being required to uphold the law 24 hrs a day.... just on drunks and the problems they bring with them... criminal damage, domestic violence, excess alcohol when driving, assault etc etc etc....
The Government has been trying to crack down on binge drinking especially amongst young people... but they have totally lost control of the spiralling situation by allowing this Licencing Law to be brought in.
We definitely suffer from a binge drinking culture amongst young people in this country... and now they will continue their excesses through the night... bringing even more problems... like health issues.
I think for our hospital staff, emergency services, etc.... its a case of watch this space... and then in a few months..... it'll be....... we told you so...!
equi-princess xxx
Some good points there equi-princess.....I'll be interested to see the findings on binge drinking and the effect 24 hr opening will have....prob nxt summer will be the acid test..!
CheekyChimp...... 8-)
