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I have reason to believe my youngest daughter (aged 12) has been targeted and was in the process of being groomed by a via msn.
Could any professionals in this field (police, social services etc) pm me with advice. The guy concerned doesn't know I'm 'on to him'.
My daughter no longer has access to the account.
Thanks in advance
Sugar x
go to the police.
No need for any professionals, telephone the police right now!! surprised
Go to you local police constabulary site - look under links and you should find the telephone number for their child protection unit. The CPU are fantastic and listen to what you have to say, they also (normally) keep you informed with any inquiries.
Was it on msn? something happen to my daughter there I will find the site and put up the link...they tracked it really quickly and got bact to me. it was a ultomated message system but it all seemed really real to me. give me a couple of minute to find the thread here.
Put in a report to she may not be the only one.
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Go to you local police constabulary site - look under links and you should find the telephone number for their child protection unit. The CPU are fantastic and listen to what you have to say, they also (normally) keep you informed with any inquiries.

Wot she said, and the sooner the better. And well done for your vigilance. Hope all goes well
heres the place I reported my one and they were really quick at getting back to me.
And make sure the logs of the MSN conversations are safe too.
Thanks guys - this has been very helpful. I can't tell you how sick I felt when this 41 year old sicko was chatting to me on messenger thinking I was my 12 year old. Of course, I chatted in text talk and tried to stay calm. I reminded him I was only 12 and said my mum and dad would be angry if they knew we were chatting. He said 'they probably would be lol'. Bastard!
When I asked if he though I was too young for him to chat to, he said 'no - I think you're cool'
The really scary thing is that he reminded 'me' that I'd texted him a while back about the computer game 'Resident evil 4' - so he has access to her phone number. Her phone has been confiscated of course.
Technology can be a wonderful thing until scum use it to their own ends.
Sugar,
My daughter is also 12 and i would hate her to be in the same situation.
I hope this gets sorted asap for you and your daughter.
Best wishes,
dee

This is the CEOP site for young people. We use it at school in training on internet safety.
If you have kids it could well be worth visiting the site with them, saving it on their favourites, ensuring that they know that they can access help and report anything they are unhappy about.
Hope it all gets sorted.
Nola x
I contacted ceops as suggested and made out a full report. They've emailed me to say they're unable to do anything. They just suggested I should delete that msn account (errr - you think?) and get my daughter to visit the thinkuknow website. Yes, a good suggestion but in the meantime, there is at least one 41 year old guy free to add more little girls to his msn contact list unhindered. Great! evil
Oh well, at least MY daughter is out of his reach ... not really the attitude I wanted to take though.
If you are not satisfied then I would take it to their superiors.
And don't stop taking it higher up until they do something about the guy.
Make lots of noise and don't rest until someone takes notice.
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I contacted ceops as suggested and made out a full report. They've emailed me to say they're unable to do anything. They just suggested I should delete that msn account (errr - you think?) and get my daughter to visit the thinkuknow website. Yes, a good suggestion but in the meantime, there is at least one 41 year old guy free to add more little girls to his msn contact list unhindered. Great! evil
Oh well, at least MY daughter is out of his reach ... not really the attitude I wanted to take though.

I'm surprised and a little disappointed to be honest. I would have hoped that this guys ID would be logged at least...
Quote by anais
I contacted ceops as suggested and made out a full report. They've emailed me to say they're unable to do anything. They just suggested I should delete that msn account (errr - you think?) and get my daughter to visit the thinkuknow website. Yes, a good suggestion but in the meantime, there is at least one 41 year old guy free to add more little girls to his msn contact list unhindered. Great! evil
Oh well, at least MY daughter is out of his reach ... not really the attitude I wanted to take though.

I'm surprised and a little disappointed to be honest. I would have hoped that this guys ID would be logged at least...
The CEO of Ceops would be very unhappy to hear this response. He is committed to getting people off the internet and text so put in a complaint asap.
You would have thought that this would have been treated seriously by the police. dunno And by the people who run that particular chat thingy.
It really is farcical when you just cannot seem to get the right answers, BUT keep trying as this really has to be resolved, for your own peace of mind.
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I contacted ceops as suggested and made out a full report. They've emailed me to say they're unable to do anything. They just suggested I should delete that msn account (errr - you think?) and get my daughter to visit the thinkuknow website. Yes, a good suggestion but in the meantime, there is at least one 41 year old guy free to add more little girls to his msn contact list unhindered. Great! evil
Oh well, at least MY daughter is out of his reach ... not really the attitude I wanted to take though.

I'm surprised and a little disappointed to be honest. I would have hoped that this guys ID would be logged at least...
The CEO of Ceops would be very unhappy to hear this response. He is committed to getting people off the internet and text so put in a complaint asap.
Totally agree with your suggestion Corrie - I would do the same if it was my child :smile:
Kent I'm with ya :smile:
Its disturbing to think that *some person/s* are doing this and no-one is listening when it comes to light. Especially when we are led to think that this site in particular is here for that purpose.
just playing devils advocate for a second..did they explain why in this instance they couldnt do anything..im sure there will be more to this than meets the eye...
Quote by Sugar-n-pom
I contacted ceops as suggested and made out a full report. They've emailed me to say they're unable to do anything. They just suggested I should delete that msn account (errr - you think?) and get my daughter to visit the thinkuknow website. Yes, a good suggestion but in the meantime, there is at least one 41 year old guy free to add more little girls to his msn contact list unhindered. Great! evil
Oh well, at least MY daughter is out of his reach ... not really the attitude I wanted to take though.

Could the reason be associated with the legal maxim Agent Provocateur? dunno
I know it's hard, but you are clearly not a child and it was you, not your daughter that this person was chatting to.. and, like it or lump it, that is not illegal so the evidence would be unusable.
However, the authorities will now have been alerted to this individual and they may be able to gather the evidence they require legally and in a format that will make any subsequent case "stick". They may already (or have been) be gathering what they require and the last thing they might want is someone "stumbling" in on the plot so to speak and screwing up the opportunity to collect admissible evidence.
Don't loose heart over it; you did the right thing :thumbup:
Get your child a new mobile phone card, from their provider, most give out payg cards free of charge, so she will have a new number.
All great responses and some good advice - thanks guys. I'm really frustrated about ceops but it probably IS because the conversation I recorded was the one between *him* and myself posing as my daughter and the complaint wasn't from her directly.
She didn't make the complaint herself because - surprise surprise - she wasn't aware she was possibly being groomed ... showing that his ploy (if that's what it was) was working perfectly. However, we do have to be careful we don't impinge on the human rights of characters like this don't we.
He had already managed to get her mobile number out of her but the only texts that had passed between them (according to my daughter) was about a computer game she particularly likes - hey guess what, HIS favourite too!! What a coincidence!
Why would a 12 year old think to report a guy who has only talked about computer games? He didn't come across as a 'nasty man' at all!!
The older and wiser amongst us know that it just isn't normal for a man of 41 to have a 12 year old little girl as a 'friend' - and most adults would be bored rigid talking to a kid about a computer game.
I dread to think what his next move might have been.
Her phone has been taken of her until we replace the SIM and we carefully and calmly explained the situation and how much danger she could be in by adding people she doesn't know to her msn. We said that people can - and do - lie about who they are online. She has had a nasty scare and has promised not to add anyone she doesn't know to her new msn when we set it up (and it'll be checked every night).
I just hope this character doesn't take things to the next stage with another little girl who's parents don't think to check her account.