Please lock this thread???

19 Feb 2005

I don't get it. If you went into a pub and started a conversation, and people disagreed with you, or you personally didn't like the way the conversation was going, would you expect anyone to take any notice if you said "OK, I am the owner of this conversation and you're not to talk about the subject I raised anymore."?
Of course not. So can someone please explain to me why some people feel that just because they started a conversation in the forum, they have the right to effectively tell everyone when to stop talking about that subject by having it locked?

19 Feb 2005

I had thought the exact same thing as that Ice Pie, I don't see why a thread should be locked at the request of the originator just because it is not going they way they wish it to.
Roger the Dragon. confused

19 Feb 2005

Baby, baby,
U r talking in riddles................ I dont know whats going on.................... but if u have something to say then u should be able to say it............. in my opinion.....LOL
for what its worth....
So, let it go over your head......... have a nice shag and chill..........xxxxxxxx
Blondeslave

19 Feb 2005

I'll have a pint of whatever she's on. biggrin

19 Feb 2005

ice... mate.. you got a problem with me... say it to me!!!!
sad

:( :( :(
nice of you to start a new thread.... thanks....,

19 Feb 2005

Quote by blondeslave

Baby, baby,
U r talking in riddles................ I dont know whats going on.................... but if u have something to say then u should be able to say it............. in my opinion.....LOL
for what its worth....
So, let it go over your head......... have a nice shag and chill..........xxxxxxxx
Blondeslave

Blondeslave - I am sorry and this is very patronising but:
Bless you. kiss

19 Feb 2005

Quote by Ice Pie
I don't get it. If you went into a pub and started a conversation, and people disagreed with you, or you personally didn't like the way the conversation was going, would you expect anyone to take any notice if you said "OK, I am the owner of this conversation and you're not to talk about the subject I raised anymore."?
Of course not. So can someone please explain to me why some people feel that just because they started a conversation in the forum, they have the right to effectively tell everyone when to stop talking about that subject by having it locked?

Conversations in here are not private in the same way that two or three people (or more) chatting in a pub are (or should that be "is"?), so different criteria are needed. We have an AUP, which we are expected to follow.

19 Feb 2005

Quote by MikeNorth
I don't get it. If you went into a pub and started a conversation, and people disagreed with you, or you personally didn't like the way the conversation was going, would you expect anyone to take any notice if you said "OK, I am the owner of this conversation and you're not to talk about the subject I raised anymore."?
Of course not. So can someone please explain to me why some people feel that just because they started a conversation in the forum, they have the right to effectively tell everyone when to stop talking about that subject by having it locked?

Conversations in here are not private in the same way that two or three people (or more) chatting in a pub are (or should that be "is"?), so different criteria are needed. We have an AUP, which we are expected to follow.
Now I'm even more confused

How does the AUP affect someone wanting to lock a thread because it is not going in the direction they want it to?

19 Feb 2005

Agreed, threads should be like a roller coaster - once you're on, there's no getting off till the end.
rolleyes

19 Feb 2005

I thought that the usual reason for locking threads was because the conversation had become abusive in some way. Of course, there are on occasions people want to control the way a thread that they have started goes, but our glorious tradition of hijacking usually wins the day.
Mike.

19 Feb 2005

Quote by Ice Pie
I'll have a pint of whatever she's on.

You had better make that two.

19 Feb 2005

Quote by MikeNorth
I thought that the usual reason for locking threads was because the conversation had become abusive in some way. Of course, there are on occasions people want to control the way a thread that they have started goes, but our glorious tradition of hijacking usually wins the day.
Mike.

I think this was the point Ice-Pie was trying to make - should you be able to call in the Mods and lock a thread just because it has not gone how you wished even if it hasn't got abusive?
Roger.

19 Feb 2005

Quote by blondeslave

Baby, baby,
U r talking in riddles................ I dont know whats going on.................... but if u have something to say then u should be able to say it............. in my opinion.....LOL
for what its worth....
So, let it go over your head......... have a nice shag and chill..........xxxxxxxx
Blondeslave

Good Yorkshire sense there.
Mike.

19 Feb 2005

Quote by fabio grooverider
ice... mate.. you got a problem with me... say it to me!!!!
:( :( :(
nice of you to start a new thread.... thanks....,

No I don't have a problem, I'm asking a question. Why do people think they have the right to stop people talking just because they started the conversation?

19 Feb 2005

so what your are saying is the explaination i have giving isn't good enough for you...
fine... point score away....
sean xxxxxxxxx

19 Feb 2005

Quote by rogerthedragon
I thought that the usual reason for locking threads was because the conversation had become abusive in some way. Of course, there are on occasions people want to control the way a thread that they have started goes, but our glorious tradition of hijacking usually wins the day.
Mike.

I think this was the point Ice-Pie was trying to make - should you be able to call in the Mods and lock a thread just because it has not gone how you wished even if it hasn't got abusive?
Roger.
Oh I wasn't aware of that, I'm still catching up on threads after being out all day. I was assuming it was a (fairly) general point.
Mike.

19 Feb 2005

Quote by fabio grooverider
so what your are saying is the explaination i have giving isn't good enough for you...
fine... point score away....
sean xxxxxxxxx

I'm not point scoring, honestly. I'm questioning whether an active discussion should be locked when the person who started it asks for it to be locked, and the reason I'm questioning it is because I don't understand it. I simply don't see that starting a conversation gives anyone any kind of ownership of it.

19 Feb 2005

I think Ice raises a good point. Slightly aside but I've never come across any other forum where locking is used so much. In fact, I'd never heard of it before I joined here.
I'm with blondeslave. and Night_shift .. let's chill with the flow on a rollercoaster of love (or argument, whatever!), and keep discussions open unless they break the AUP.
Good discussion points tonight, Ice and Fabio.

19 Feb 2005

Quote by fabio grooverider
so what your are saying is the explaination i have giving isn't good enough for you...
fine... point score away....
sean xxxxxxxxx

You seem to be taking a few things very personally at the moment!!!
Calm down!!!

19 Feb 2005

In my experience if you went into a pub and started a conversation and somebody didn't agree with you......
A massive fight would break out, somebody would have a bottle smashed over their head a dozen people would converge on a singleton and beat the living crap out of him :cry:
Sorry that's today's society....The real world

19 Feb 2005

Quote by MrFC
In my experience if you went into a pub and started a conversation and somebody didn't agree with you......
A massive fight would break out, somebody would have a bottle smashed over their head a dozen people would converge on a singleton and beat the living crap out of him :cry:
Sorry that's today's society....The real world

I gotta agree with you there MrFC, sadly. My big brother was leaving work a good few months ago and for no reason at all a bunch of yobs attacked him. He was generally OK apart from a few scrapes but he was very angry about it all. It is ridiculous. mad

20 Feb 2005

Could someone please lock this thread??
Sorry that was a bad joke, but hey it had to be said!!!
Love
Wilma
x x x x

20 Feb 2005

Wilma - back in the tub!!!! biggrin

Mal

20 Feb 2005

Quote by mal609
Wilma - back in the tub!!!!
Mal

Okay, Okay I'm going ................

Mal you spoil sport x x

20 Feb 2005

shall i, shan't i dunno

looks like it . . . .
i'm not a prolific thread starter at all. i tend to bounce off others posts, and when i do post a thread, it's usually just some light reading utter crap. a couple of times i've posted a thread that on reflection doesn't say what i meant when i wrote it, is open to complete misinterpretation, and has maybe just caused personal offence to someone who replied to it.
now while i don't believe i "own" a thread i put up, i think i do "own" any offence caused by my putting it up, particularly if i've phrased it badly, or haven't put myself forward properly, or been misunderstood in my intent, and i'd rather head of a potential traffic accident by asking for the thread locked than let it potentially degenerate into a row that a mod has to step in and lock at their discretion.
i think if i put up a thread that began to take on a personal tone, i'd ask for it locked before any misunderstanding escalated. not to stop the discussion, but because i'd not want to be responsible for a row?
n x x x ;)

20 Feb 2005

That's all fine Neil. It's a responsable way to behave on the forum, but I don't think that's what Ice means. I'll give you an example of what I think Ice means.
Lucky26 started this thread asking about "beautiful people" parties. For some reason ( confused

) the people here thought that this thread was open to a hijacking.
If Lucky26 had taken offence to the hijacking because it had gone slightly off topic ( :shock: ) he could have asked for it to be locked.
I think this is what Ice is talking about.
And just to throw petrol on the fire, Ice have you seen this at the bottom of every page...

Quote by Great Black Dalek
All postings are the property of their posters.

20 Feb 2005

Quote by easy
And just to throw petrol on the fire, Ice have you seen this at the bottom of every page...
All postings are the property of their posters.

But it doesn't say "All threads are the property of their starters"
wink

20 Feb 2005

Its a great question ! I agree it needs askin , just answerin that seems difficult.

20 Feb 2005

I agree with Ice. I don't think thread starters have got the right to demand that a thread be locked for whatever reason. That's the Mods' prerogative based on the AUP or just a general judgement that the thing should be locked. Whilst I accept Neil's point about causing offence I don't think it runs to a right to have the thread locked - principle of caveat postorhere methinks!! If you cause offence on or by starting a thread it'll either be locked without you asking or you can just apologise.
What I think is acceptable though is a thread starter indicating openly or in a PM that a thread may be locked if the original purpose of the thread has been met. I'm thinking here of the sort of thread Alex started the other day abot tecchie problems with Messenger, which when solved was done and dusted.

20 Feb 2005

I can agree with locking a post under certain circumstances. Abusive behaviour , someone flooding the thread with nonsense ( seen that before lol ) posts , etc BUT if I start a thread i.e. : "who thinks whips are bad" and it ended up on a totally different tangent then its easy enough to post the original question back in at the bottom of the thread to try and get it back "on course". Of course sometimes a thread will wander about and end up 100% in the opposite direction to the original post , BUT , if you read thru the thread it usually does make sense why its gone there. Thats the beauty of a conversation you can start speaking about one thing and find before long your onto something completely different.
I would never ask for any thread I started to be locked unless there was abuse or someone was flooding the thread to kill it ( then i suppose the easy way is to have an admin delete the account of the person being abusive or flooding and deleting the offending posts ).
Just my Ha'penny's worth
Davie ... in thermals .... watching polar bears mugging kids for their jackets , scarves and hats !!! yes its just above absolute zero and blizzards up ere again ... hey ho thats the frozen north for yer lol