Don't lose the post count altogether Mark because it helps people to get a feel of how long a person has been around and how much they have contributed (when I was very new I found this really helpful). A different ranking system might be good - with some of the high numbers certain people have you could go well beyond 4000! I'll try to help you think up some milestones .... but I'll get back to you with that.
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Well personally the post count doesn`t bother me. I like the creative ways people announce thier milestones (which I doubt would change) and it gives me a good opportuntiy to start a thread upon which everyone can tell me how wonderful I am, which is always nice :mrgreen: Obviously I don`t need a ranking system to tell me I am a god :smug:
If people prefer for the ranking system to go, perhaps allowing people to choose thier own titles after they reach a certain amount of posts would be fun. On some forums this can be done via the Profile tool box. It could be a great source of entertainment, but on the otherhand could also be abused, so I suppose it depends on the mental energy of the mods! Perhaps after 100-200 posts in order to weed out the trolls?
Venusxxx
If people prefer for the ranking system to go, perhaps allowing people to choose thier own titles after they reach a certain amount of posts would be fun. On some forums this can be done via the Profile tool box. It could be a great source of entertainment, but on the otherhand could also be abused, so I suppose it depends on the mental energy of the mods! Perhaps after 100-200 posts in order to weed out the trolls?
Venusxxx
Sex God
Personally, we like the posts counts too, but you're the Guv and you see what fits best :-)
Incidentally, if someone does manage to post 5000 posts (and there are a few of you out there :!: ) I think a self help number should appear instead of a comical quip!!
Incidentally, if someone does manage to post 5000 posts (and there are a few of you out there :!: ) I think a self help number should appear instead of a comical quip!!
Sex God
I echo most the comments above......... As a relative newbie it does help to get a feel of who is who, who to ask for help, who to listen to, etc etc.
So for my (what it's worth) vote.... keep the post count, and have a changing tag line above the post bar......... I know it means more work but would be a nice touch.
So for my (what it's worth) vote.... keep the post count, and have a changing tag line above the post bar......... I know it means more work but would be a nice touch.
Sex God
I agree with your suggestion no. 1, Mark, about removing the post total from under the avatar but leaving it in the profile. I am fairly neutral about the ranking system.
Mike.
Mike.
Would also agree with the posting but never thought much about the ranking. If posting still shows on your profile then that is a way for new people to find out more about how long you have been on the site. After all you can no longer see it if you are not logged in anyway 
:) Not sure how popular this will be but you did ask.........................
:) Not sure how popular this will be but you did ask......................... 
Sex God
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The alternative interpretation of results (tongue in cheek)
0-10 posts
"I'm still perfectly sane"
10-20 posts
"OK, so Im sane, but like strangers"
20-30 posts
"and the strangers seem to like me"
30-40 posts
"I feel warm when people reply"
40-50 posts
"I can quit this thing anytime I like"
50-100 posts
"I have quit this thing many times before you know"
100-200 posts
"Ok, so I still havent met anyone yet... I'm very choosy"
200-300 posts
"The trouble is... so are they"
300-400 posts
"You b'stards have to look past my unnattractive features"
400-500 posts
"I only came here for fun anyway, I never actually wanted to meet any of you"
500-1000 posts
"If I can't win a woman, I'll win the posting league"
1000+ posts
"Look.... it takes my mind off wanking ok?"
I quite like some of these. lmao.
I don't mind the post count being moved/removed TBH.
I'll still post at milestones (if I can be bothered), but it'll stop me feeling like I don't have anything usefull to say when people who joined after me have a much higher postcount.
And the bar under the avatar is a nice touch, when you understand why it's there. Took me a couple of days. :doh:
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Well I use the date joined to see how long people have been on the site, not post count or ranking, so remove them both :P
I couldnt agree more,post count and ranking dont really mean anything,i think if needs be then the post count could be kept on the profile,but i really dont think it matters one tiny bit.
Like Jas i look at when people joined to see how long theyve been about,not how many posts theyve done.
From both me and Steve(both a little paranoid about posting anything at the moment!!!!)
I think one of the strengths of SH is the broad range of people who visit the site and the number of posts and rankings are not the only measure of involvement. Arthur and I have contributed to the swinging stories but our postings are abysmal. We have been fortunate enough to meet just a few people since we joined which has been good for us and I think them
It takes all sorts.
It takes all sorts.
Sex God
easy, where did you drag that up from. never seen it before, and AK ain't about so much, but 
post counts mean nowt in themselves, and are pretty redundant. some people say more in 100 posts than i'll ever have to say in 1000's, but like mark says, if it ain't broke don't fix it. still, generally speaking, i think they have a use. ((( these fences ain't very comfy are they??? )))
neil x x x x ;-)
post counts mean nowt in themselves, and are pretty redundant. some people say more in 100 posts than i'll ever have to say in 1000's, but like mark says, if it ain't broke don't fix it. still, generally speaking, i think they have a use. ((( these fences ain't very comfy are they??? )))
neil x x x x ;-)
My therapist keeps reminding me that I've got a fear of change.
She's right, you know.
I like things just the way they are.
Seriously though, as a fairly new member, I find the post count and date of membership very handy.
I'm quite happy with some form of grading system too.......not because I'm interested in "rank" per se. I just like the humourous descriptions. These can be changed whenever you feel like it just for the sake of variety. And I can tell my therapist that I've embraced change too.
She's right, you know.
I like things just the way they are.
Seriously though, as a fairly new member, I find the post count and date of membership very handy.
I'm quite happy with some form of grading system too.......not because I'm interested in "rank" per se. I just like the humourous descriptions. These can be changed whenever you feel like it just for the sake of variety. And I can tell my therapist that I've embraced change too.
The present format is great until you get the odd one or two that see it as a challenge to get their post count up as quickly as possible. It doesn't happen very often but when it does it's very noticeable and it's obviously irritating or we wouldn't have had some of the recent comments.
Somebody said they like to see the post count because it gives them an idea of how experienced someone is on the site. That's true to an extent but I'm sure they also couple it with the date joined info to form their impressions.
My post count is what it is because although I've been on the site for a long time most of my time is spent in the chatroom. I enjoy being in the forum but I obviously haven't posted as much as some of the others.
I'd like to see things stay as they are but I do get frustrated when someone makes 500 posts in a matter of a few days/weeks. I really do regard it as more "look at me" rather than "look at what I've got to say". Short of limiting people to a maximum number of posts per day it's hard to see what can be done to change it.
Steve
Somebody said they like to see the post count because it gives them an idea of how experienced someone is on the site. That's true to an extent but I'm sure they also couple it with the date joined info to form their impressions.
My post count is what it is because although I've been on the site for a long time most of my time is spent in the chatroom. I enjoy being in the forum but I obviously haven't posted as much as some of the others.
I'd like to see things stay as they are but I do get frustrated when someone makes 500 posts in a matter of a few days/weeks. I really do regard it as more "look at me" rather than "look at what I've got to say". Short of limiting people to a maximum number of posts per day it's hard to see what can be done to change it.
Steve
Sex God
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I'd like to see things stay as they are but I do get frustrated when someone makes 500 posts in a matter of a few days/weeks. I really do regard it as more "look at me" rather than "look at what I've got to say". Short of limiting people to a maximum number of posts per day it's hard to see what can be done to change it.
Steve
agreed. seeing the post count as an end in itself, cos somehow that makes you a "committed" member of the site . . . . well enough's been said on *that* subject . . . .
it's something many of us ((( myself included ))) have been guilty of in a rush to "include" oursleves, but really you should get over that pretty quickly . . . . . then again it seems arrogant to suggest that cos *i* have a certain post count, or have been here *so* long that i have some *special* insight! not true. i'd be happy to see it scrapped. but then again, when i joined i looked to the high posters for guidance, and valued their opinions???? it's tough to think in *general* terms, and make *general* statements, when we have such a diverse community, without appearing to claim anything for yourself???? and then you get into "taking it all too seriously" territory . . . . . .
but if in their rush to a *presumed* status here they begin to dominate, at the expense of others who *actually* have had a greater contribution, albeit with a lower postcount, then we can see where those frustrations come from . . .
that doesn't really help i know . . . . .
neil x x x x ;-)
I thought about this loads last night and I still can't decide
I hit my 1,000 post this week and to be honest, I was nervous about hitting it because I didn't want to make a song and dance about it and was relieved when I got away with it. I post when I want to, for a giggle or cos I have something I want to say and not to get my count up. If I wanted tell someone I loved them or how wonderful this site is then I wouldn't wait to a set number of posts, I would just say it when I felt like it. Possibly even pm a person direct and tell them how I feel.
If anyone has done that please don't take offence, I am just saying how it is for me.
The count can show you how much 'effort' a person has put in to the site but it's not exactly accurate. Steveg 'only' has 1587 posting, not a massive count considering his time here. But how does that show how much work Steve has put into the chatroom/photo ads/ site moderating AND arranging 3 bloody big munches. However it does give an indication of how much work Jags and Bluexxx have put into the site.
I do like the fact I know when a newbie has posted and not just by what they have said
I don't think you could limit people to the amount of postings they do in a day. Some days I don't feel in the mood, other days I'm a happy bunny and I have the time to join in on ever post going.
If anything I am wavering to 'leave it alone' and hope people begin to post for the right reasons. Not helping much Mark, sorry
Dawn :silly:
I hit my 1,000 post this week and to be honest, I was nervous about hitting it because I didn't want to make a song and dance about it and was relieved when I got away with it. I post when I want to, for a giggle or cos I have something I want to say and not to get my count up. If I wanted tell someone I loved them or how wonderful this site is then I wouldn't wait to a set number of posts, I would just say it when I felt like it. Possibly even pm a person direct and tell them how I feel.
If anyone has done that please don't take offence, I am just saying how it is for me.
The count can show you how much 'effort' a person has put in to the site but it's not exactly accurate. Steveg 'only' has 1587 posting, not a massive count considering his time here. But how does that show how much work Steve has put into the chatroom/photo ads/ site moderating AND arranging 3 bloody big munches. However it does give an indication of how much work Jags and Bluexxx have put into the site.
I do like the fact I know when a newbie has posted and not just by what they have said
I don't think you could limit people to the amount of postings they do in a day. Some days I don't feel in the mood, other days I'm a happy bunny and I have the time to join in on ever post going. If anything I am wavering to 'leave it alone' and hope people begin to post for the right reasons. Not helping much Mark, sorry
Dawn :silly:
I have no preference on whether the post count stays or go's really..
With my meagre post count in the time I have been here who can blame me eh??
It would be helpfull if some form of post count could be obtained coupled with a join date for people who organise munches etc as a gauge of how long they have been here and whether they are just wanting to go to a munch/party cause they think it's just a huge sex-a-thon...
Just my two-pennorth.....and thats about all it's worth I know.....
:) :)
With my meagre post count in the time I have been here who can blame me eh??
It would be helpfull if some form of post count could be obtained coupled with a join date for people who organise munches etc as a gauge of how long they have been here and whether they are just wanting to go to a munch/party cause they think it's just a huge sex-a-thon...
Just my two-pennorth.....and thats about all it's worth I know.....
:) :) Well I go with keeping the post count, I like it. However I have a suggestion on how to stop someone coming in and posting 500 times in 2 weeks just to get the rankings. I agree with those who say a limit on posts per day is a bad idea, it’s a free site, and if someone really goes off the rails, we have the mods. So how about combining join date and postings?
Simple idea, restrict levelling to once a month + 100 posts (for 0 -1000 posts). Count total posts as we do now, but also track last level date and posts since last level (in a hidden field). When you have 30 days + since last level and 100 + posts since last level you go up a step in ranking name.
Now I can post 500 posts in my first month, but I will still only go up one level. I would still need to post 100 posts next month to go another level. Also I don’t have to worry about hitting 100 posts by end of month to level, as I can easily do them next month and I would level as soon as I hit that 100 (As the 30 days rule already satisfied). This prevents posting to reach a level, and means rankings give an impression of not just post count, but also time on the site, combining the 2 things people say they are interested in. Equally although I wont be penalised for not posting I wont go up in rankings by lurking only and do first post as godlike.
Should be possible to integrate this into the current rankings reasonably easily, set everyone’s level date to today, and give them a ranking based on current post count. From then on level only once a month.
Also I think we need more humourous levels (With a page somewhere explaining them all) Need levels from 0 – 5000 (although with it taking 1 month + ‘x’ postings we will all go a lot slower to level. I would suggest the following:
0 – 1000 – Levels every 100 posts + 30 days as described above so need 10 levels
1000 – 3000 – Levels every 250 posts + 30 days so need 8 more levels
3000 – 4000 – Levels every 500 posts + 30 days so need 2 more levels
4000 – 5000 – Levels at 1000 posts needs nothing as you get to chose your own at 5000
5000 + Gold bar, chose your own title anytime you like
So we need 20 levels in total if I getting math right (which is unlikely) If this was working I suppose the actual post count becomes less important, we would celebrate leveling milestones not the actual post counts. At that point you could remove the post count from the avitar and leave it on the profile screen as suggested.
Simple idea, restrict levelling to once a month + 100 posts (for 0 -1000 posts). Count total posts as we do now, but also track last level date and posts since last level (in a hidden field). When you have 30 days + since last level and 100 + posts since last level you go up a step in ranking name.
Now I can post 500 posts in my first month, but I will still only go up one level. I would still need to post 100 posts next month to go another level. Also I don’t have to worry about hitting 100 posts by end of month to level, as I can easily do them next month and I would level as soon as I hit that 100 (As the 30 days rule already satisfied). This prevents posting to reach a level, and means rankings give an impression of not just post count, but also time on the site, combining the 2 things people say they are interested in. Equally although I wont be penalised for not posting I wont go up in rankings by lurking only and do first post as godlike.
Should be possible to integrate this into the current rankings reasonably easily, set everyone’s level date to today, and give them a ranking based on current post count. From then on level only once a month.
Also I think we need more humourous levels (With a page somewhere explaining them all) Need levels from 0 – 5000 (although with it taking 1 month + ‘x’ postings we will all go a lot slower to level. I would suggest the following:
0 – 1000 – Levels every 100 posts + 30 days as described above so need 10 levels
1000 – 3000 – Levels every 250 posts + 30 days so need 8 more levels
3000 – 4000 – Levels every 500 posts + 30 days so need 2 more levels
4000 – 5000 – Levels at 1000 posts needs nothing as you get to chose your own at 5000
5000 + Gold bar, chose your own title anytime you like
So we need 20 levels in total if I getting math right (which is unlikely) If this was working I suppose the actual post count becomes less important, we would celebrate leveling milestones not the actual post counts. At that point you could remove the post count from the avitar and leave it on the profile screen as suggested.
Sex God
In response to tallnhairy.......... to long to quote all your post......... what you need to do all this is "Deep Thought" :-
The great supercomputer Deep Thought, is the most powerful computer ever built, with one exception.
It was designed by hyper-intelligent pan-dimensional beings, who wanted to know the answer to Life, the Universe, and Everthing.
Its creation annoyed a fair few philosophers, who felt that it was taking over their turf.
After seven and a half million years of serious cogitation, Deep Thought spoke the answer. However, it ws so inexplicable that Deep Thought then had to go on and design the most powerful computer ever built (with no exceptions) to work out what the question was.
The great supercomputer Deep Thought, is the most powerful computer ever built, with one exception.
It was designed by hyper-intelligent pan-dimensional beings, who wanted to know the answer to Life, the Universe, and Everthing.
Its creation annoyed a fair few philosophers, who felt that it was taking over their turf.
After seven and a half million years of serious cogitation, Deep Thought spoke the answer. However, it ws so inexplicable that Deep Thought then had to go on and design the most powerful computer ever built (with no exceptions) to work out what the question was.
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TnH - that would mean that someone who joined a year ago and only made 3/4/5/10 posts (And there are loads, go look at the members list ) would have a higher ranking than say, SteveG???
Shome mishtake shurely.
No they wouldn't Jags
To use your example (I know it seems a mess of an idea, but bear with me) To level you need to satisfy 2 rules for which we would track 2 new stats, time since last level, and posts since last level. We would not show these, on the site you still see total posts and join date. The rules would be:
1. Have more than 100 posts since you last levelled (not total)
2. Have been more than 30 days since you last levelled (again not in total)
When both these are true you go up. So if I post 500 times in a week I wont level until the end of the 30 days, at which point both rules true. Then I go up a rank and my ‘since last level days’ and ‘since last level posts’ counters go back to zero (Remember these are hidden the total posts and join date remain the same).
Equally I could be a member for a year and post only 5 times (as in your example), although I satisfy the 30+ day rule I have not met the posts rule. So nothing happens. Equally if I became active as soon as I hit 100 posts I would level, at which point counters go back to 0 as above.
The idea is simply to space out the levelling and tie it to both posts (minimums of 100) and time (30days). Preventing must post loads syndrome just to level as it won’t do you any good. Any moderately active member would find themselves levelling once a month (30 days), a slightly less active member would level every 100 posts, as they would no doubt go over 30 days between 100 posts naturally…
Over eager posters after levels just wont get very far and will hopefully just chill out when they realise posting 500 a month just to level does nothing more than slowing down and doing 100 good posts a month…
Sex God
That makes perfect sense to me !!!!......... seems a good idea !!!!!!!!! :D
:D Respect your point of view Judy, but in this case there is an advantage to change. We have outgrown the ranking system a bit, which was designed to run from 0 – 1000, and now we have those hitting 5000!
So somewhere we have to add in some extra levels, no real reason to remove the levels you already have though, so avoiding upsets there, but make some more.
While we about it people have noted those chasing levels rather than posting well, that’s where my suggestion to slow things down a bit comes in. So change for changes sake is a bad thing, very true, but I think as Mark suggested here we have something that if not broke is creaking at the seams and needs an overhaul…
So somewhere we have to add in some extra levels, no real reason to remove the levels you already have though, so avoiding upsets there, but make some more.
While we about it people have noted those chasing levels rather than posting well, that’s where my suggestion to slow things down a bit comes in
. So change for changes sake is a bad thing, very true, but I think as Mark suggested here we have something that if not broke is creaking at the seams and needs an overhaul… I've come into this a bit late, but my 2 pennerth........
I hadn't read the start of the thread by Mark but had already sent a PM to him with the same suggestion for the post count remaining on the profile and not displayed alongside posts.
Most people when they first come on here post frantically (I did). The fact that they want to do so is really indicating that the site is a victim of its own success. But most calm down within a few days or a couple of weeks.
I have recently become a member of a forum where you 'earn' your ranking based on recommendation by others - however only those who have reached a certain status can recommend points and the number of points they can allocate is also linked to their own rating. This seems quite a good idea. These points can be earned for certain agreed criteria (eg humour, information, thoughtfulness etc).
One thing to remember is that we are in the silly (holiday) season now and some people may have more time on their hands. Some other regs are currently tied up on other matters and are temporarily absent - we wish them well and await their return. It is true however, that some well loved members seem to have dissappeared long term - but hopefully not for ever.
All this said - the system isn't 'broke' and probably doesn't require fixing at all - maybe just a little self moderation and thought before posting could be taken on board by all.
Alex x x
I hadn't read the start of the thread by Mark but had already sent a PM to him with the same suggestion for the post count remaining on the profile and not displayed alongside posts.
Most people when they first come on here post frantically (I did). The fact that they want to do so is really indicating that the site is a victim of its own success. But most calm down within a few days or a couple of weeks.
I have recently become a member of a forum where you 'earn' your ranking based on recommendation by others - however only those who have reached a certain status can recommend points and the number of points they can allocate is also linked to their own rating. This seems quite a good idea. These points can be earned for certain agreed criteria (eg humour, information, thoughtfulness etc).
One thing to remember is that we are in the silly (holiday) season now and some people may have more time on their hands. Some other regs are currently tied up on other matters and are temporarily absent - we wish them well and await their return. It is true however, that some well loved members seem to have dissappeared long term - but hopefully not for ever.
All this said - the system isn't 'broke' and probably doesn't require fixing at all - maybe just a little self moderation and thought before posting could be taken on board by all.
Alex x x
