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Hehe, yes I had, but then again we had a PM discussion on legailities and stuff about 3 months ago, suppose active swingers don't have any need in that area dunno
today is the first anniversary of a young working girls murder,she was stabbed here in sheffield,as yet no ones ever been caught,she left behind 2 young children,........yes,make it legal,take it off the streets,least the girls would b safe................tc hutchy
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what do the folks on SH think, should prostituition be legal, my view is why not, if people want to pay for this service why not, at least if legal like Holland it would take the stigma, and clean it all up. and then like everything else the government will be able to tax it.
not sure what they would call the tax though cant be VAT could be the Cummin Tax, what do you all think it should be called???

YES, prostitution should be legal and protected by law, whilst things stay as they are, women will continue to be exploited by greedy bullying pimps and subjected to horrific murders, such as what happened to Michela Hague, as she was trying to earn a living.
There is a need for prostitutes, as there has been for thousands of years, " the oldest profession" ? so what is the sense of continuing to make it illegal, times have moved on since we had the "Sunday Observance Society" who stopped anything and everything,
"shops closed at six o clock, no Sunday opening, British Board of film Censors" Etc.
When will the powers that be get real eh.? probably never, I fear.!!!
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If people want to pay for this service why not, at least if legal like Holland it would take the stigma, and clean it all up. and then like everything else the government will be able to tax it.

I think they should be free on the NHS. wink
Dxxx
just what hubby said, but where are all the male ones ;)
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Hehe, yes I had, but then again we had a PM discussion on legailities and stuff about 3 months ago, suppose active swingers don't have any need in that area dunno

Great to see others joining in!!
Yes i remember,and just cos something dosnt directly affect you dosnt mean you should ignore it, does it?
Our society is so hypocritical - the same local newspapers that condemn it on their front pages run loads of ads for it in their Personals - I saw a thing a few years back on TV - it was worth about £8,000,000 a year in advertising revenue even then to the big local press syndicates.
You know someone reading this will have worked or work in the sex industry in this will know better than any of us the absurd contradictions in our hung up culture,the lack of respect and lack of care about them as fellow human a very important issue because if we are part of a movement toward a better,freer,fairer ,more liberated world then we should care about them too.
seems like there are many views on this thread, and all very interesting, glad its created much interest,And many thanks TallHairy, appology excepted with gratitude.
seems like have a big debate going here.
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what do the folks on SH think, should prostituition be legal

Most personal type services (acupuncture, tatooing) are regulated by local authorities, except the one that needs to be regulated more than any other - prostitution. If Prostitution was legalised and regulated, then maybe this would reduce the coercion and exploitation that goes on. And maybe reduce the stigma as well, after all prostitutes are human beings too. All the WG's I've met have been nice ordinary girls, just making an honest living.
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:P Would legalisation of prostituation mean that the *pimp* and *talent spotter* of today could soon be looked upon as respectable businessmen?

Pimps and prostitutes go hand in hand especially in a situation where the woman is emotionally vulnerable. So what...if protituation is legalised do we know call him Sir?
Most of us for legalising it are for it to try and get rid of these pimps. They will always be around, all you can do is offer the girls a way out if they want to take it, and go for the pimps whenever you find them.
Prostitution in this country is legal (as has been said before). One day one of these people we vote into Westminster will have the balls to stand up and propose that the mess be sorted out.
Steve
Lets face it, never will the seedy side of prostitution be eradicated. If you make it legal in terms of accessibility then the pimps will just search out girls of a younger age or of foreign nationality.
You will never ever stop this.
You can though make an alternative, if you legalise brothels, maintain health and security for the girls working and regulate the industry. It may smack of big brother to do such but at the end of the day would you prefer 16 year old (or less) girls on the street or have them submit to stringent checks to work?
If society makes prostitution more "acceptable" and "accessible" then you take away the shame. If a person wants to visit a brothel then so be it ... better than picking up someone off a street.
I've heard it said many times ... would you like a brothel in your neighbourhood? Well personally if stops the girls standing on the corner, being beaten by pimps, ruled by drugs and all sorts of trouble then yep, I'd happily support a brothel if it was well run and regulated.
Calista xx
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what do the folks on SH think, should prostituition be legal, my view is why not, if people want to pay for this service why not, at least if legal like Holland it would take the stigma, and clean it all up. and then like everything else the government will be able to tax it.
not sure what they would call the tax though cant be VAT could be the Cummin Tax, what do you all think it should be called???

How about the C*** tax! Ha Ha. :censored: redface :idea: biggrin :!: cool
Sex work is legal in the UK, but subject to various rules and regs. Soliciting directly is illegal. Escort agencies, massage parlours etc. all operate as legitimate businesses, although it is understood that they front sex workers.
A controversy was raised recently in Germany. People on the dole were being directed to fringe jobs in the sex industry as legitimate offers of work. They were likely to lose dole if they did not show willing to attend the interviews. How about that?
dunno
That's the Germans for you. Nothing that daft could EVER happen here! :smug:
lhk
Kat
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A controversy was raised recently in Germany. People on the dole were being directed to fringe jobs in the sex industry as legitimate offers of work. They were likely to lose dole if they did not show willing to attend the interviews. How about that?

Urban myth alert: see:

Mike.
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A reporter would probably know that prostitution IS legal.
From a good faq on the subject: "While prostitution is technically legal, there are a number of restrictions which can make it difficult to work legally. Brothels, streetwalking and kerb-crawling are illegal, but there are no prohibitions against a girl working solo from her home. More than one girl in an apartment is considered a brothel, however, and would be illegal. There are a few co-ops in which a group of working girls gets together and rents a flat, then they take turns working one day each. This falls within the boundaries of the law."

Certain areas have different views on this as do certain Police forces The 'law' has changed recently.... I know as close friends got busted recently!!!
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what do the folks on SH think, should prostituition be legal, my view is why not, if people want to pay for this service why not, at least if legal like Holland it would take the stigma, and clean it all up. and then like everything else the government will be able to tax it.
not sure what they would call the tax though cant be VAT could be the Cummin Tax, what do you all think it should be called???

Vagina Activity Tax?
It interests me that the whole discussion on this thread has focussed on the legal and financial aspects of prostitution and not one mention of the emotional and moral aspects of wether a person with financial strength should be able to compel another person to have sex with them in order to ensure their own financial survival . Its a very hot potato of a subject , especially in such an ambiguous arena as this forum , but in my own opinion it shouldnt be legal simply because it is wrong .
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......so why should women not be allowed to exploit their natual strengths??.......

Or put another way.......... "Why shouldn't women be allowed to exploit men's natural weaknesses". Now that would never happen.........would it????
It's not just these two posts quoted above, but I've noticed an alarming number of references to "women" or "girls" in this thread. As a teen growing up in Florida, one of my best male friends was a prostitute (and he longed not only for the legality but also the sort of governmental regulation they have in places like Amsterdam). Are we forgetting the male prostitutes? Or are they just less prevalent here in the UK than they are back in the 'States?
~Reese! surprised
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Most of us for legalising it are for it to try and get rid of these pimps. They will always be around, all you can do is offer the girls a way out if they want to take it, and go for the pimps whenever you find them.

I am all for legalising prostitution, having lived in Holland and never having seen a streetwalker ( tell a lie, I did see one, she was picked up by the Politie and when checked was found to have recently had her permit or what ever they call it revoked until she had finished treatment for an STD )
I know a few working girls, I used to work as a driver/ emergency backup for one, some have pimps and simply could not live without their pimp, some would gladly leave the trade but for the pimp's veiled warnings. It shgould be the choice of the woman OR the man to enter into the trade if they wish to do so, in many counytries students finance their higher education by prostitution, once they have graduated and said goodbye to the trade no stigma follows them and thats how it should be. There will always be men willing to pay for sex, and always be men and women willing to provide the sex.
regulate it, give a safer protected envioroment to the workers
At the end of the day I always remember something that a working girl said to me " ALL women sell their bodies, those that are married or in relationships do it as well, they just dont get cash in return, they get company" While I dont really agree with that statement I decided I would include it due to the nature of the thread and the origin of the statement
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At the end of the day I always remember something that a working girl said to me " ALL women sell their bodies, those that are married or in relationships do it as well, they just dont get cash in return, they get company"

Sadly, working girls can't chose thatcompany, where as married women can chose their husbands.
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I've heard it said many times ... would you like a brothel in your neighbourhood? Well personally if stops the girls standing on the corner, being beaten by pimps, ruled by drugs and all sorts of trouble then yep, I'd happily support a brothel if it was well run and regulated.

I would have no objection. I'd much rather see that trade regulated, & pimps eliminated.
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It interests me that the whole discussion on this thread has focussed on the legal and financial aspects of prostitution and not one mention of the emotional and moral aspects of wether a person with financial strength should be able to compel another person to have sex with them in order to ensure their own financial survival . Its a very hot potato of a subject , especially in such an ambiguous arena as this forum , but in my own opinion it shouldnt be legal simply because it is wrong .

The whole discussion should focus on the legal and financial saapects becaus that is what prostitution is a obut, its merely a trade like any other.
As for a person with financial strenth compeling another person to have sex that is what happens in many relationships not in prsotitiution were the one offering the service has entered into it willingly. If we take away the legal right to sell ones body surely we should do the same with cleaning and other services which can be far more demeaning and imoral!!
Try
These are professional women. Speak to them. They are in the upper end of the providers market. Some will speak to you about their work. But you'll be expected to pay for their time............
There are people who would consider swinging doubtful in terms of emotional and moral integrity. How would you convince them?
I guess what we are discussing here is the balance between emotional and job satisfaction and regrettably, I think we may have to agree to disagree.
Escorting isn't merely a business trade but selling your body for someone's physical gratification. I won’t begin to scratch the emotional surface but I’m sure some will agree, there's more job satisfaction from grafting a day's work then having some sweaty bloke off the street negotiating a price on a blow job and sex, chuckin’ his muck and then leaving his condom in the bin to pile up with the others. Let’s face it, Prostitution isn’t Richard Gere and Julia Roberts, and the realistic side of the job, both punter and escort is physically and psychologically frightening.
Don't get me wrong, I firmly believe that people have the right to do with their bodies what they wish! I commend it. For those who prefer to play in unconventional arenas and for the ones they chose to play with, may you discover what you were searching for and have a hell of a lot of fun while yer trying.
When that unconventional arena becomes a job is when it’s frightening.
Just a point....
90% of clients of working girls are married or in a long term relationship They view it as not cheating on their partners
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When that unconventional arena becomes a job is when it’s frightening.

Why?
I would have thought it was more satisfying than say working in a lot of menial repetative jobs.
Rememmber (and now we have to differentiate between prosititutes that are forced into this type of work and those that choose it) most prostitutes choose there clients, set their own rates and limits. Now whats frightening about that?
I hope you never have to find out Fox .
Its a subject more suited elsewhere so ill say no more .
Peace G xx