I would be interested to hear what the mods think of ... for want of a better label.. pseudo modding?
Do you find it helps or hinders?
Does it make any difference at all?
Does it bother you as long as it doesn't go too far?
When is it right - when is it wrong?
Can it be harmless leg-pulling which can help break the ice or does it always build a wall?
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Pseudo modding – what do Mods think?
You've just beat me to it PoloLady.
I was just writing a very similar thread.
I was going to ask, how thin is the line between "pseudo-modding" and "pointing people in the right direction"
But then I realised it was also a Friday when I started the Terminology of Socials thread, so I'm rather glad someone started this one :grin:
I'd be more interested in hearing views from everyone, rather than the just the Mods.
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I was going to ask, how thin is the line between "pseudo-modding" and "pointing people in the right direction"
My imediate without thinking too much answer would be...
pseudo-modding - One line sarcastic reply, sometimes a mention of the mistake, sometimes not. Usually in a 'don't you know anything
' kind of way.pointing people in the right direction - Including a solution to their mistake, in a more friendly 'we've all done it' kind of way
I've always pointed em in the right direction as such but have never been a fan of those that jump on someone and take the piss purely because they have made a genuine mistake and posted in the wrong section.
If a cock shot or url is posted I'll tell em it's not on and nine times out of ten if they remove it before someone posts below me i'll delete my post (if I can be arsed) we all make mistakes so I genuinely can't see the need for taking the piss out of someone who has
However if theydo know better and have done it before and been told well it's fair game for my piss taking :twisted:
If a cock shot or url is posted I'll tell em it's not on and nine times out of ten if they remove it before someone posts below me i'll delete my post (if I can be arsed) we all make mistakes so I genuinely can't see the need for taking the piss out of someone who has
However if theydo know better and have done it before and been told well it's fair game for my piss taking :twisted:
Casanova
Im newish to the site and have no problems with folk other than the mods guideing me on to the right road. Id rather be put right and ribbed than left to stumble around blindly and possibly upset regular users. Obviously if the ribbing was very personal in nature rather than genral or light heartned banter then id say thats going too far
So please if i look like i need help.......help me
After all the more the merrier :thrilled:
nicky
So please if i look like i need help.......help me
After all the more the merrier :thrilled:
nicky
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Im newish to the site and have no problems with folk other than the mods guideing me on to the right road. Id rather be put right and ribbed than left to stumble around blindly and possibly upset regular users. Obviously if the ribbing was very personal in nature rather than genral or light heartned banter then id say thats going too far
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Although, not everybody on the receiving end sees it as "lighthearted banter" at the the time.
Sex God
I suppose one way it could help the powers that be, is if they were particularly good at it they could be considered when a new mod is needed?
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I dont know - i think it depends on who's doing it, and more importantly , why.
I might come back to this later because i'm trying to define in my own head what 'classifies' as pseudo-modding and what doesnt. But I do think it depends on the individual doing it , whatever it is that comes across as pseudo-modding :dunno:
But i have to say I disagree with Fire, pseudo-mods, in my mind, would make bad mods, because they're wannabes. Its a power thing. Maybe. :dunno:
off for a think....... paranoia setting in..... wonders who is considered a psuedo-mod and who isnt.... am i missing something here? :dunno:
- i think it depends on who's doing it, and more importantly , why.I might come back to this later because i'm trying to define in my own head what 'classifies' as pseudo-modding and what doesnt. But I do think it depends on the individual doing it , whatever it is that comes across as pseudo-modding :dunno:
But i have to say I disagree with Fire, pseudo-mods, in my mind, would make bad mods, because they're wannabes. Its a power thing. Maybe. :dunno:
off for a think....... paranoia setting in..... wonders who is considered a psuedo-mod and who isnt.... am i missing something here? :dunno:
Sex God
Quote by Darkfire
I dont know
I might come back to this later because i'm trying to define in my own head what 'classifies' as pseudo-modding and what doesnt. But I do think it depends on the individual doing it , whatever it is that comes across as pseudo-modding :dunno:
But i have to say I disagree with Fire, pseudo-mods, in my mind, would make bad mods, because they're wannabes. Its a power thing. Maybe. :dunno:
off for a think....... paranoia setting in..... wonders who is considered a psuedo-mod and who isnt.... am i missing something here? :dunno:
No need to disagree hun, I was just throwing another thought in. It' is'nt my oppinion or anything. I was asking rather than stating. >>>>>.does that make sense?????
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Sex God
We like the idea
Sex God
yeah but no but yeah but no but, i was coming from the angle of ......how do you know whether you would be a good mod or no unless you give it a little try from time to time to see if you like it so to speak? You see I'm not assuming that pseudo is a bad thing more a sustitute for the real thing. Hav'nt looked it up in the dictionary though so I could be talking complete bollox :giggle: as usual
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Sex God
Awwww shall we just forget it Dark and go for a lie down 
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well if one were to look at law and order, we all should obey the law, police enforce the law and those laws are generally decided in a democratic way. imposing ones own will on others is tricky as it comes down to what "I think" is ok or not ok, so really its about upholding the site rules which anyone can and should do, but enforcing those rules is down to mods/ops .Having recently hosted in chat, its a fine line, but i try to be fair and stick to the site AUP. nobody likes to be told they are "wrong " but there it is, if its against AUP then warn 1,2, kick! I cannot be fairer than that !
I've always seen this site as really kinda self-policing. All members have a part in that - whether it be pointing out mistakes, offering some guidance or reporting dodgy ads.
but its the 'fine line' bit that Dambuster mentioned thats the issue when it comes to self-policing vs pseudo-modding, and where do we draw it?
but its the 'fine line' bit that Dambuster mentioned thats the issue when it comes to self-policing vs pseudo-modding, and where do we draw it?
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well if one were to look at law and order, we all should obey the law, police enforce the law and those laws are generally decided in a democratic way.
That's all well and good, and I agree; but aren't the rules (and such) of the site different. ?In that they are set by the site's owners. Sometimes with, sometimes without, input from others.
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. . . . imposing ones own will on others is tricky as it comes down to what "I think" is ok or not ok, so really its about upholding the site rules which anyone can and should do, . . .
That's not quite true.
There are some rules/guidelines of the site that I disagree with - to varying levels. From "very strongly against" to "mildly annoyed by"
But I will, and do, sometimes point out those rules to people.
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. . . but enforcing those rules is down to mods/ops .
I doubt that enforcement is in question.
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I've always seen this site as really kinda self-policing. All members have a part in that - whether it be pointing out mistakes, offering some guidance or reporting dodgy ads.
but its the 'fine line' bit that Dambuster mentioned thats the issue when it comes to self-policing vs pseudo-modding, and where do we draw it?
I don't see it can be drawn as a straight line.
Go and look at some of the threads now....
If generally the topic is deemed by the (vocal) masses as being shite - then it seems OK to wade in and take the piss left right and centre then take the thread on a round-the-world cruise.
It depends on who is being the sarcastic pseudo and who is reading it.
Personalities do come into it - whether people say they do or don't.
If you take into account all of the double standards and other bollox - what you end-up with is something looking more like a line drawn with a Spiro-Graph set than a ruler.
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but its the 'fine line' bit that Dambuster mentioned thats the issue when it comes to self-policing vs pseudo-modding, and where do we draw it?
Does the nature of the post/mistake make a difference as to whether it is acceptable or not?
Attitude
Habit :dunno:
I don't think for one minute that some people actually follow others around the forum, or go specifically looking for "bad/wrong" posts, the way they are sometimes accused.
But I think it's fair to say that some people have a habit of correcting/directing/advising others.
We also have to consider "human nature" and circles of friends.
And to a very large degree, as Missy said; it depends howit's done.
One of my own deciding factors is how the advisor responds to one advised's (???)responses.
I firmly believe that the choice of what to do with advice rests with the person receiving the advice, rather than the person giving it. If that's acceptable, then it wasn't really "advice" that was actually given.
Here is a thought............
Some guy on his first day in a new job chains his bike to what appears to be a thing for chaining your bike to.
Some of the longer standing employees look at where he has chained his bike and snigger to themselves, but say nothing to the new recruit so as not to embarrass him.
Joe Pseudo Bloggs comes around the corner and shouts out " I take it you want to catch the bus home tonight" (note it is a one-line sarcastic-style comment)
The new recruit replied "it wasn't my intention"
Joe adds "well I should have some change ready just in case if you leave you bike there all day"
At this point Jimmy Wannabe comes along and chuckles "Joe is right - every bike that has ever been left on that bar has been swiped by lunchtime - try taking it round by the MD's car nearer the security cameras"
Now then.... who was the greater help Joe or the employees who said bob-diddly squat?
Some guy on his first day in a new job chains his bike to what appears to be a thing for chaining your bike to.
Some of the longer standing employees look at where he has chained his bike and snigger to themselves, but say nothing to the new recruit so as not to embarrass him.
Joe Pseudo Bloggs comes around the corner and shouts out " I take it you want to catch the bus home tonight" (note it is a one-line sarcastic-style comment)
The new recruit replied "it wasn't my intention"
Joe adds "well I should have some change ready just in case if you leave you bike there all day"
At this point Jimmy Wannabe comes along and chuckles "Joe is right - every bike that has ever been left on that bar has been swiped by lunchtime - try taking it round by the MD's car nearer the security cameras"
Now then.... who was the greater help Joe or the employees who said bob-diddly squat?
Sex God
Am I missing something ? I mean aren't people who moderate a 'cyber community' already about as 'pseudo' as it can get ? If we get any more pseudo we may dissapear up our own id !
