Just a quick doodle to say " I hope everyone has brought their poppy this year.
The money raised goes to some fantastic causes, for which many could not do without.
The poppy sellers also do a fantastic job, standing there sometimes for hours with no pay.
So I would like to take my hat off to those people, who contributions go a massive way into helping soldiers and their families.
I agree, kenty. I buy one - generally from work who have them on the front desk.
But my ex would never buy one. His Grandad died in WW2 and his gran went to the British Legion for help - 4 kids under 15. She was told "No help for you, you should put the boys into care." She didn't of course, and they managed, just. But none of the family have had any time for the BL since. Probably one over-worked person on a bad day, but an incrediblly sad event anyway.
I shall be wearing mine with pride whilst watching my daughter march past with the cadets amongst some regs and T.A and I will remember.
They still supply a pin but you now have to pin the poppy to your jacket/jumper etc yourself in case they stab you to death with it....
I always buy at least 2-3..as I tend to forget where I put one...or the kids have them to wear for school.
I've always brought one...it's probably the only charity my dad always supported. I see it as a small way I can show my respect and recognition for the tough thankless task that many of our boys have to face.
i buy them but rarely wear them as the pins r useless and keeping them on my clothes so i lose them or they rip my coat
My father, a WW2 veteran had a hang up about the British Legion and the help it failed to give to his comrades and their families which colours my view.
I have a fundamental issue with many charities based on my belief that such help should be part of the welfare state and funded by taxation.
I also wouldn't want my wearing a poppy to be misconstrued as my support for current or past wars.
So no I have never bought a poppy despite the abuse I have taken as a result.
Remembrance day is quite another matter and I always observe the silence and have often attended ceremonies.
The wearing of a poppy signifies the support of those who have been injured or in need, and who have defended this land. It does not show support for the butcher Blair or his policies.
The Poppy is a symbol of remembering those who have died for this country.
It is not a political thing.
This is a poem which is very apt
Of course people do not have to buy or wear a Poppy,but it is to remember them.
The last paragraph says it all for me.
Well I'm not keen on Terry Wogan but its never stopped me donating to Children In Need.
I don't know about that but...what I do know is it is about remembering those that were killed, so as we can sit here and argue the toss on the internet.
I am not bothered in the politics of it all, as I do not buy my poppy for that.
It is a signal for me to remember the brave fallen heroes, that died to save our futures....and for that we should all be grateful for their ultimate sacrifices.
I wear poppy pin badge with pride my sons got one to.
On remederence there is a very large gathering in my town.
There are 2 poems that I think say it all
The first is...
IN FLANDERS FIELDS.
In Flanders field the poppies blow
Between the crosses, row on row,
That mark our place; and in the sky
The larks, still bravely singing, fly
Scarce heard amid the guns below.
We are the Dead. Short days ago
We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow,
Loved and were loved, and now we lie
In Flanders fields.
Take up our quarrel with the foe:
To you from failing hands we throw
The torch; be yours to hold it high.
If ye break with us who die
We shall not sleep, though poppies grow
In Flanders fields.
~~By Major John McCrae, May 1915.~~
The 2nd is....
WE SHALL KEEP THE FAITH.
Oh! You who sleep in Flanders’ fields,
Sleep sweet - to rise anew,
We caught the torch you threw,
And holding high we kept
The faith with those who died.
We cherish too, the poppy red
That grows on fields where valour led.
It seems to signal to the skies
That blood of heroes never dies,
But lends a lustre to the red
Of the flower that blooms above the dead
In Flanders’ fields.
And now the torch and poppy red
Wear in honour of our dead.
Fear not that ye have died for naught
We’ve learned the lesson that ye taught
In Flanders’ fields.
by Miss Moina Belle Michael
I'm sorry, I'm going this time to go against the thread.
My father is dead, my mother is dead. V's parents also. Whatever they did in life is now irrelevant.
piece of music always moves me to tears but we have to move on.
Whatever I or V have done in life will also be irrelevant when we are gone.
We have to move on. The politicians want us to remember the dead of Iraq and Afghanistan but only to atone for their dreadful mistakes.
These brave people were murdered as if by the hands of our own elected representatives. They were sent to fight a war that was not of our making, of which we had no responsibility.
What are we now remembering? I seem to have forgotten.
I get the poppy each year (not yet but I will) and the poems quoted are appropriate to the day. But THIS is the poem of war that we must all remember.
Bent double, like old beggars under sacks,
Knock-kneed, coughing like hags, we cursed through sludge,
Till on the haunting flares we turned our backs
And towards our distant rest began to trudge.
Men marched asleep.
Many had lost their boots
But limped on, blood-shod.
All went lame; all blind;
Drunk with fatigue; deaf even to the hoots
Of tired, outstripped
Five-Nines that dropped behind.
Gas! Gas! Quick, boys!---An ecstasy of fumbling, Fitting the clumsy helmets just in time;
But someone still was yelling out and stumbling,
And flound'ring like a man in fire or lime...
Dim, through the misty panes and thick green light,
As under a green sea, I saw him drowning.
In all my dreams, before my helpless sight,
He plunges at me, guttering, choking, drowning.
If in some smothering dreams you too could pace
Behind the wagon that we flung him in,
And watch the white eyes writhing in his face,
His hanging face, like a devil's sick of sin;
If you could hear, at every jolt, the blood
Come gargling from the froth-corrupted lungs,
Obscene as cancer, bitter as the cud
Of vile, incurable sores on innocent tongues,---
My friend, you would not tell with such high zest
To children ardent for some desperate glory,
The old Lie:
Dulce et decorum est Pro patria mori.
War is not great, honourable, fair. It is dirty, corrupting, deadly, gsangrenous and in every single case WRONG. The fact we have to fight them (in some cases) to protect ourselves from attackers, and sometimes there isn't an alternative other than giving up, doesn't change the fact that war is wrong and not something anyone should glory in.
Don't know if you remember... I posted a while back about my friend Paul who was hit by a roadside bomb this time last year... well he's doing great things during his recovery and this is him doing his bit for the Poppy Appeal. Proud, inspired and humbled all at once. :mrgreen:
i always have a tear in my eye this time of year remembering why the day is significant, this thread has done the same to me. its living this lifestyle in this 'free' world we live in is why they died.
i may not always get a poppy and wear it, i may not even go to the cenotaph (too religious) but i always remember, i always stop and think and i always have a tear in my eye for all those fallen xxxxxxxxxx
THANK YOU is about all i can say
everyone is entitled to their opinion and i do not think what my father did was in any way irrelevent I have his photos taken from the landing craft as it hit the beach in normandy (he was the pilot so made several landings) and to look at them still send a shiver down my spine.
just to think what all those young guys and any that go to war go through deserves remembrance regards of political stance or prejudice.
I remember every year and always will.