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Just a quickie.. (I wish lol). Last time we went to a swinging club we only took part in soft swing (girl on girl). Now we would love to take part in full swings on our next visit to a club but last time noticed that no other couples were using any protection. Now would we be seen as 'strange' if we asked others to use protection and would it limit our chances. Its just something we feel quite strongly about. Any advice on handling the situation (and recomendations on somewhere to carry condoms lol) would be greatly appreciated. biggrin
i think that this should prob be in "the cafe" a nice green person might move you over. biggrin
with regards to your question... i have found that most couples dont use protection when playing themselves.. but will use it with other couples.
anyone reasonable would not take offence to you asking them to use a condom.. and will prob actually be relieved that you brought it up so they dont have to.
you might get the odd person who refuses.. but hey.. their loss not yours!"!!!
thankyou..... could a very kindly moderator please move me over.. sorry redface
Hi there
This is a topic I have been intending to raise - sort of!!
I have been wondering what the potential dangers are with regard to sexual diseases & soft swinging.
For example
If person A peforms oral sex on Person B and then Person C can STD's be passed from B to C???
Gosh all sounds a bit algebraic!!! :shock:
Dx
There is a very high possibility the std could be transmitted orally. So even oral swap I'd want to use protection for (although displaying doubles standards as I don't wear gloves when with a woman lol)
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There is a very high possibility the std could be transmitted orally. So even oral swap I'd want to use protection for (although displaying doubles standards as I don't wear gloves when with a woman lol)

Thats was also a concern - using hands on one girl and then another.
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Hi there
This is a topic I have been intending to raise - sort of!!
I have been wondering what the potential dangers are with regard to sexual diseases & soft swinging.
For example
If person A peforms oral sex on Person B and then Person C can STD's be passed from B to C???
Gosh all sounds a bit algebraic!!! :shock:
Dx

A STD or STI could be anything that is transmitted through sexual contact. ie, a cold or worse. Unprotected oral sex (without using a condom or other barrier) puts both partners at risk for a number of sexually transmitted infections, whether they are giving or receiving. These infections include gonorrhea, syphilis, chancroid, herpes, hepatitis B, cytomegalovirus, human papilloma virus (HPV), herpes, and, rarely, HIV and chlamydia.
The risks depend on whether or not the receiver and/or giver was already infected with a sexually transmitted infection (STI), and if so, then which one. Herpes, for example, can definitely be transmitted to the giver or receiver through unprotected oral sex if one of them is in the infectious stage, including when sores are not visible. HIV also can be transmitted through unprotected oral sex (the virus is present in the "pre-cum," not only in the ejaculate), though oral sex is a less likely route of HIV infection than anal or vaginal intercourse.
Yeast infections, gonorrhea, and syphilis can be transmitted, as can human papillomavirus (HPV), the virus that causes genital warts, and chlamydia, though both are rarely passed on in this way.
Just shedding a little happiness through the day........... :shock:
hmmm, yeah this seems quite strange, because most people say safe sex always and that they go to parties and dont do it seems strange to me.
Does safe sex include the Pill? and that safe actually means i dont want to get pregnant
Because to me safe sex is wearing a condom so STDs are not passed, assuming there is one present, where obviously if there arent then there is no need for the protection.
Good ramble ramble...
But i hope you get what i am asking
To be honest, I have NEVER seen anyone at a club use condoms or any other method of safe sex while giving oral sex, whether that be girl on girl, boy on boy, or between boys and girls. I'm not saying that no-one ever does, just that I've never seen it myself.... and I've been to clubs a few times - OK, a few more times than normally associated with the term "few" :shock: Some people do seem aware not to let guys cum in their mouth though, so I guess that is a form of making sex a little bit safer.
When it comes to shagging though, the opposite seems to apply. You VERY RARELY see anyone getting shagged (male or female) without a condom when they are getting shagged by a stranger. In fact I think I've only seen condomless sex between strangers a handful of times. Seems a tad too dangerous for me, that :shock: Between couples, condom use is rare.
Just my experience
Thanks everyone for you advice... I will definately be asking men to put condoms on before they come near me or my fella!!!! If they refuse.. they don't get fantastic sex (well not off us anyway lol)
It's the same with me I've seen little condom use for oral but nearly always for sex. As for where you keep them if I'm completely naked i slip one under my watch strap. Failing that just openly carry the pack, I've actually had people approach me in clubs & ask me to meet their partner solely based on the fact I would be playing safe. So my suggestion is be very open about condoms, people will respect you for it & those that don't, well you probably wouldn't want to get together with them anyway.
How about going down on ladies of short acquaintance, do you see people generally using a dam? I think I realise the chances of death are pretty slim, but the chances of herpes etc. are quite high if ones target is a carrier.
I must say nervousness of this, and the feeling that its a hard to raise issue, has held me back.
Nope, never seen any form of protection whatsoever used for oral of any kind. Like I said above, that doesn't mean people don't use dams or condoms, just that they don't use them while I'm watching
As frequent clubbers we've never seen barriers used for oral but condoms are the norm for intercourse.
However, there are a few guys, usually part of a couple, that will try to slip in an un-rubbered cock until told no.
Couples that play bareback are fairly rare and it is only when two such couples play together that we've seen unprotected intercourse.
Given then, that there is a chance, shouldnt you use protection for oral aswell as intercourse regardless of the risk factor being lower with oral. A risk is a risk, especially if the standard regs is to not bother with protection when giving/ receiving oral and everyone does it. It only takes one to be carrying.
Obvioulsy I realise that the sensation for both men and women whilst experiancing oral is best without protection but surely safer with :idea: rolleyes temptation I guess,uhm.
Hi there
You should not feel worried about offending anyone if you suggest using protection when having sex with other it seems the norm to go without protection when having oral sex with others,from what we have seen and what protection do you give a woman when a man gives her oral? :confused:
D and M
Big question this one isnt it? Read the Sexual Health advice on this site as well. Its quite informative.
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what protection do you give a woman when a man gives her oral? :confused:

Dental Dam

Essentially a flavoured condom opened out. Pretty grim IMHO.
(no connection to the above site etc etc)
I think as swingers or if your just shagging around you should be as safe as you can.
Ive had afew comdoms break in my time and if this ever happens i always get myself checked out at the GU clinic to give me peace of mind as i wouldnt want to pass anything on to another person.
So far ive always been in the clear, if only more people would just go for a check up!!
Who said sex was fun rolleyes
ENJOY AND BE SAFE..
Redshift
There's something I very rarely see mentioned in safe sex discussions, and that's Hepatitis B vaccination - anyone who works in the biomedical professions has probably had one, but you can get it from the GP or GUM clinic - one course of jabs, and a very nasty STI you don't have to worry about for 10 years or so. Definitely a good idea if you're in a "high risk" group, and if you're planning on fun with multiple partners, that means you!
Which reminds me, I really must go and get mine done!!
CM
Just out of interest what's the acronym GUM stand for? In my day, (great father time writes), they were called "Special Clinics", or in particularly obscure cases, "Martha and Luke Clinics", (which sounds like a biblical reference).
...and yes I have been inside one, at age 27, something called NSU that a very pretty friend gave me as a present.
It's "Genito Urinary Medicine"
Home of some of the least sympathetic medical workers you'll ever meet mad
Which part of a very ill, very shy, and scared witless, 15 year old's statement of "I haven't had sex" wasn't clear confused

Thankfully I haven't had cause to go back.
Home of some of the least sympathetic medical workers you'll ever meet

Agree entirely.. I had to go when I was 14, on my own with no support. I was quite distressed and the doctor was old and sleazy. The nurse who was there just told me to stop being so silly and let him get on with it.. even though he was really hurting me!! Luckily all was good and I never went back.
(although strangely have a bit of a fetish now for the rough internal examination?!?!? :twisted: )