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we have been giving a lot of thought to this , as regular party hosts that have the safety of their guests to ensure obviously its of great concern to us, we attended a play party a few weeks back , not from this site or with any other of this sites members as far as we know, they had a dedicated film room, we knew of it chose not to go into it, it was very popular with many there, ive thought long and hard about what action we would take should someone start filming anything at chez wrats, its just not happened as far as we know in a play situation, whether thats down to the guest list or not im not sure, the fact that ' this has come as a great shock ' really surprises me, i know forumites of old, have come across this kind of thing in the past, and are well versed in the etiquette of swinging, i know for a fact that some of the old skool forumites are sitting back reading this and thinking, why the surprise?
You see its always been something that has been on my mind that sooner or later someone will try and film me rose or one of our friends and that means when it happens it will be met with anger but not shock, i hope many of the chatters read this thread, alas i feel many just dont come in here till they have reason to, half the mids room will have sailed by here because of this, but what about the yorks room the nw room the scots room and so on, are they learning their swinging theory or just having daily light hearted banter and then off to a party without a clue as to how to behave??
I really dont think this applies to the majority of folk that use this or other sites, i think for the most part they are respectful and learned, but then how many bad apples does it take to make a film, causing great distress to the poor souls caught on cam...
the above post is meant to highlight a possible cause for concern that could apply to one or two ignorant folk, not the chatroom users as a whole
staggy
xx
Im shocked to hear this.. really shocked but far from surprised. To my own knowledge this isn't the first time this has happened and as fair warning to people we know of at least one couple (Now gone, under that profile name anyway) who liked to secretly film couples who went to the house for fun.. They ended up in court for distributing porn movies.. no guessing who the stars were eh. We read about them in the papers... and felt so lucky we declined there kind offer one dark night at there house.. something said to us it didn't seem right!!
Another thing that has totaly shocked me is the comments made by someone here... who we know took photo's at an event not that long ago and we had a few words about them being taken to be told we were spoil sports!! Remember....?? Now you understand why we objected.. things soon get out of hand.
One other thing is how many people will be put off going now anyway.. they can't be named..ok, so now we just assume they will be there anyway???
What a plank?? Why whoever you were you did that God knows.. it ain't big it aint clever and now seriously your a marked man!
Oooerr.....
Merry Christmas.. one and nearly all!
Mike xx
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One other thing is how many people will be put off going now anyway.. they can't be named..ok, so now we just assume they will be there anyway???
What a plank?? Why whoever you were you did that God knows.. it ain't big it aint clever and now seriously your a marked man!

Apparently he's banned:
Quote by west-brom-babe
it has been brought to my attention this member is banned at the mo now thank you admin xxxxx
Oh thats ok then...
And he can't get another membership?
Can't join in from another account... Well were all safe now then lol...
Well.. something has been done at least.. well done admin I say.. But i'd still name him. Warrants it i think.. No reason to do what he did at all no matter what excuses given.. No reason to pass round that no matter what... and to make several copies showed clear intent..
Shame on him..
Mike x
Quote by mdr2000
Oh thats ok then...
And he can't get another membership?
Can't join in from another account... Well were all safe now then lol...
Well.. something has been done at least.. well done admin I say.. But i'd still name him. Warrants it i think.. No reason to do what he did at all no matter what excuses given.. No reason to pass round that no matter what... and to make several copies showed clear intent..
Shame on him..
Mike x

But the thing is, it's probably been done before - just not distributed as widely. You just can't police that. I know I've probably been in the frame of pictures taken at munches and socials. Granted, it's not the same as naked 'action' pictures at private parties, but it's always a slight risk that it'll happen and people will get away with it (camera phones)- organisers can't possibly see everything.
Exactly why he should be named then!
At least people will know what a low life he is.. and at the same time set an example..
Been to a few parties.. Munches, socials and apart from once never had problems.
Not after nor think a witch hunt is a good idea.. those offended know anyway but I wouldn't want him near me or mine in future.
Mike x
I can't say much that hasn't already been said but I do empathise with the host and those innocent parties involved.
I've been the victim of something kinda similar and chose not to publicly name and shame as plenty of people were aware of the situation and the SH rumour mill and grapevine do a grand enough job without that. wink
I can't see how SH can possibly have any authority over this as it was a private event.
Furthermore .... don't get me wrong, i am on your side but you do have to look at both sides .... if the guy hadn't already apologised to you all (and therefore admitting it) this could just be your word against his, you know?
Allowing him to be named and shamed and/or reprimanded by SH is gonna open a whole can of worms for future incidents that may not be strictly true. Bit like the old "V" argument. confused
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he should be named then!
At least people will know what a low life he is..
Mike x

Mike, Mike, Mike...We all appreciate your views on this but if we named and shamed every low life on SH, where would we stop..?
wink
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Not to mention setting an example.. showing it will not be tollerated by members of this site.. As I said.. I'm the last one who wants a witch hunt but I can honestly say hand on heart if I were one in that video, or worse.. my wife!! Being named would be the last of his worries and being banned would be the last of mine... I can't get my head round the fact that one he did it.. and two made copies and handed them out.. what a numty lol!!
I think it serious enough that anyone with copies should send them to a safe person and have them all destroyed.. It's shameful! Maybe someone could set up a way of having them handed in at least.. I truly feel for anyone who's trust has been destroyed.
Mike
Well maybe one ground rule for all parties is no pics or videos and then stick by it. Trust is an incredibly fluid thing in this online world and I have learnt the hard way about what the word 'trust' really means.
I am shocked to hear this news and yet not at all surprised. If rules are not clearly stated for any socials private or public then some people may get carried away in their belief of anything goes.
I think this is a good time to have this thread up with so many parties happening.
West, I am sorry it happened to you but coming forward as you have may have stopped it happening to others.
Trust is absolute in swinging, and this beggers belief.
I feel really sorry for the people he abused, because that is what this is abuse of trust as well as friendship.
On a personal note I think Id like to know who it is for we as do others use other sites, what if we arranged to meet him at his house? would he have a cam corder set up?
If we knew who it was was could stay well clear, who knows we may have met him already.(hope to god we havent)
any chance of a pm to let me know?
Vicky
sorry to hear what happened to you girl.;. personly i think the twat should be named and shamed on here.; that then gives people the chance to not invite them to partys or munches. and it might even stop other people taking libertys.; what happens at a party should stay at a party.. if i ever caught someone filming without permision i think i would have to shove their camara/phone up their arse..
There isn't going to be a public naming and shaming! If you want to know who it was then use the PM button.
We all know how despicable the actions are and how betrayed the women involved must feel (and the blokes too).
And no matter how full your sails are of wind don't go too close!
cool
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the above post is meant to highlight a possible cause for concern that could apply to one or two ignorant folk, not the chatroom users as a whole
staggy
xx

Just to lighten a very heated and serious thread, this did make me laugh wrats, its like the little legal disclaimers you get on those dodgy products from QVC and other shopping channels.
lol
the sad thing about not naming and shaming is it puts any single bloke on this site under suspicion of being a sex offender.......
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the sad thing about not naming and shaming is it puts any single bloke on this site under suspicion of being a sex offender.......

hello easyease long time no see.
I dont think the above statement is true tho, I think a large majority of us on here have the sense and are intelligent enough to know that not everyone should be tarred with the same brush....
Hopefully!!
Quote by easyease
the sad thing about not naming and shaming is it puts any single bloke on this site under suspicion of being a sex offender.......

Absolutely not true - a very sweeping statement which doesn't reflect the truth.
rolleyes
Quote by easyease
the sad thing about not naming and shaming is it puts any single bloke on this site under suspicion of being a sex offender.......

I've thought and thought and thought but I still dont see how not naming and shaming does that dunno
Quote by Mallock2006
the sad thing about not naming and shaming is it puts any single bloke on this site under suspicion of being a sex offender.......

I've thought and thought and thought but I still dont see how not naming and shaming does that dunno
I'm utterly baffled too. :dunno:
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Apparently he's banned:
it has been brought to my attention this member is banned at the mo now thank you admin xxxxx

Because of this incident or something else?
Quote by Srne

the above post is meant to highlight a possible cause for concern that could apply to one or two ignorant folk, not the chatroom users as a whole
staggy
xx

Just to lighten a very heated and serious thread, this did make me laugh wrats, its like the little legal disclaimers you get on those dodgy products from QVC and other shopping channels.
lol
been here too long not to add a disclaimer, don't want to get silly pms for nothing,
btw who said this was the work of a single male?
staggy
this thread was never ever intended to name and shame the person, this thread was thought and thought about before it was put up, the intention was and still is to make people more aware of other peoples actions around them, what has happened to me cant be undone but if it saves other people the same thing ive been through this week then its been worth it. i will clarify this person WAS NOT a single male.
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btw who said this was the work of a single male?
staggy

dunno - I think some people have made that assumption. The username I've been told, is a couple.
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Apparently he's banned:
it has been brought to my attention this member is banned at the mo now thank you admin xxxxx

Because of this incident or something else?
Again, assume that it's because of this incident but I don't know - only the mods/admin will know that, I expect.
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Well said wrats need it have to be said a single bloke would never be so stupid..............they have a hard enough time on here as it is so no more said rolleyes

I don't think stupidity of this kind is only true of couples and single females.
Quote by west-brom-babe
i will clarify this person WAS NOT a single male.

phew!!! :shock:
and isnt it funny how people were jumping to conclusions..... me included redface
the other thing that came up for me when i was reading this thread was the fact that clearly this person HAS been named and shamed .... albeit not on an open forum.
i was also wondering why this person wasnt suitably warned. It appears that people knew he/she was filming at some point. its a shame someone didnt cause a scene then.
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i will clarify this person WAS NOT a single male.

phew!!! :shock:
and isnt it funny how people were jumping to conclusions..... me included.
redface
Sorry, but I think this post may be why people thought it was a single male. The way it's worded would seem to indicate that it was a single male:
Quote by west-brom-babe
i was the person who this video was taken of i was never asked if i could be filmed this was done without my knowledge or consent. when i confrunted the person he said he had loaded the wrong file onto the disc and has handed it out to people. iam shocked that a fellow swinger could do such a thing am just wondering why the hell somebody would film me in such a way. please all learn from my leason do not trust people who have a camera or mobile phone in their hand at a party whats happened to me is proof people dont give a damn for their actions other people were also filmed without their knowledge by this person iam totally gutted and heart broken by this
people are quick to jump to all kinds of conclusions about this and many other topics, an open mind is always handy when reading the forum or any text for that matter,i can see nothing in wbb post that suggests it was the work of someone with a single males profile, its just suggests it was a male that did the filming, not his partner.
as the threaddevelops though it becomes clearer and clearer wahst gone on, maybe its time to move away from the actual incident that sparked this thread and concentrate purely on the was forward,,,,
Sorry to hear about this - I'd liked to be shocked but in the 'youtube' era we live in this kind of act doesn't surprise me.
West & Roxie - PM me the name please as i'd like to be aware who the lowlife is
x Holly x
chin up westie ..you did nothing wrong hun ...im on the video too...caused a arugment but me and gaz are strong enough to get throu it and so are you babes luv ya xxxxx ...pickles it was never your fault ...how can it be wen you didnt now it was a great party apart from those guys ..chin up babes love you xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
..don't know if this has been covered before, but also when visiting soneones house be aware of the discreetly positioned phone or camcorder, especially as these devices are so small now.
I once visited a couple and was aware of something winking at me from the corner of the room and it certainly wasnt the lady concerned!
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..don't know if this has been covered before, but also when visiting soneones house be aware of the discreetly positioned phone or camcorder, especially as these devices are so small now.
I once visited a couple and was aware of something winking at me from the corner of the room and it certainly wasnt the lady concerned!

Sure it wasn't MarkZ? rolleyes
A :roll: could easily be mistaken for a wink in low light.....
Quote by winchwench
..don't know if this has been covered before, but also when visiting soneones house be aware of the discreetly positioned phone or camcorder, especially as these devices are so small now.
I once visited a couple and was aware of something winking at me from the corner of the room and it certainly wasnt the lady concerned!

Sure it wasn't MarkZ? rolleyes
A :roll: could easily be mistaken for a wink in low light.....
Hmmm..now you come to mention it! :P :P :P